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Title: The 11th reason some don't care about eligibility
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URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/the-11th ... e-dont-care-about-eligibility/
Published: May 25, 2012
Author: Joe Farah
Post Date: 2012-05-25 06:32:35 by ndcorup
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> by Joseph Farah Of course, it’s not quite accurate to say the major media and political establishment “don’t care.” In fact, they have intentionally made themselves obstacles to a free-and-open inquiry of the facts. But, it was pointed out to me by a wise man that I overlooked an 11th reason for this eligibility myopia. Sometimes – often, in fact – there is a spiritual aversion to the truth. This will sound crazy to unbelievers out there, but, as Paul said to the Ephesians, “… we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” The Bible tells us that we are not necessarily the originators of our own thoughts. As we are told in 2 Corinthians 4:4: “… the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” Sometimes God even blinds men to the truth, as we learn in 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12: “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” Some Americans do seem to be unable to see the truth all around them – believing instead, despite the abundant evidence, in manmade “climate change,” that killing babies in the womb can liberate mothers, that “evolution” can explain the origins of life and all its diversity, that men can marry men and women can marry women, in borrowing our way out of debt, in the power of the state to provide them with the necessities of life at no cost, and other fairy tales. As 2 Timothy 4:3-4, puts it: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” Isaiah knew a time like this: “None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity. … And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.” Jeremiah, in his day, knew it, too: “And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak Hosea knew it, too: “… for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.” Let me ask a simple question: Based solely on what we have learned about Obama in recent days – that he himself was the original “birther,” claiming for 16 years at least to have been born in Kenya and for the last five years denying it – can anyone honestly say he is a man of truth? Can anyone honestly say that those who defend his deceptions at all costs are concerned about truth? 2 Timothy 3:1-7 seems to describe a time like this one: “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. “For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, “Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, “Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. “For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, “Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” What do we have to fear from the truth? What’s wrong with the pursuit of truth? John records, “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” I believe that. But some fear the truth – and that’s the 11th reason some people discourage its pursuit. FROM ----- http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/the-11th-reason-some-dont-care-about-eligibility/ > Poster Comment: I was pretty sure the answer to the apparant stupidity on the BC eligibility issue was defined in the Bible. This is a great summary of it.The 11th reason some don't care about eligibility
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#1. To: ndcorup (#0)
Actuslly the big reason I find the issue a moot one is because Obama was born in Hawaii. 'Nuff said.
Nuff said? According to the "Birth Certificate" he released, his daddy was Kenyan. That little detail alone in the Constitution is enough to disqualify him. "If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
No,you are wrong. The Constitution talks about where the person running is born, not his or her parents.
> The relevant constitutional provision, Article II, Section I, Clause 4 (the presidential eligibility clause), states that: “No Person except a natural born Citizen or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.” Although the Constitution does not go on to define a “natural born Citizen,” the term is understood to mean a person born in the United States or born abroad to parents who are both American citizens. In Obama’s case, his father was not an American citizen. It's the "understanding" portion of the issue that must be defined by the Supreme Court, in a clear and concise manner. Which, unfortunately, the "Politicians" currently sitting on the Court will not do. So this matter will continue to be divisive, and subject to individual interpretation. > "If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
That there are so many indicators of ongoing fraud is what keeps drawing me back to the issue. 1. No legitimate Birth Certificate. 2. Suppression of Records 3. Columbia 4. Social Security Number(s) And the list goes on. All of his records from his time in the Illinois legislature have been disappeared. No, the reality is that we know really very little about this man other than he has been connected to some very shady operators. By appearances he seems to be a creation of someone for some purpose (I am guessing CIA as "making his bones" would explain his disappearance for two years while allegedly at Columbia.) The amount of Anomylous occurrances/situations is such a Red Flag to thinking Americans (that Care)it's almost embarassing. The ultimate DANGER to our Nation is real! I'm going to give a "what if" scenario, and repeat it on each new "Eligibility" posting in the future. Maybe it will sink in to some of the numbnuts: A nice Mexican couple,illegal "migrants", unmarried, have a baby boy, in America. They break up after a couple of years and the boy is raised by various Mexican families. He's a citizen. He knows, and prefers, Mexican Culture, but is very bright and knows totally American culture. He's sucessful in local, State, the Federal government. He runs with a sucessful Presidential Candidate and they win. The President dies quickly, thru a violent, unsolved event. He's now President. Unknown to all but only a few of his Mexican buddies from childhood, he actually despises the American form of government. He sets out to change every part of its inherant structure that he can. ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT???? BTW, Caucasian Americans are now in the minority. With a much lower Birth rate than the past minorities. "If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
That was an excellent post but it will fall on blind eyes. Obama sycophants and supporters are NOTORIOUS for believing that obviously Photoshopped birth certificates are just as good as legitimate ones. None of them have ever even tried to answer why their hero spent so much money to keep his hidden and then produced something that was obviously phony. There is not much help for Obama supporters other than locked up in mental institutions where they won't hurt themselves or others.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
The only explanation that makes sense is that he is somebody's "boy". He is an agent operating for person or persons unknown. Ultimately it is likely the Rotchild network but he may have technically been in the employ of CIA. Whatever the case this man is not as he represents himself and anyone blind enough not to be on alert with all of the anomalies surrounding this cretin can only be described as willfully blind or brain damaged. Totally Agree.
"If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
Unless you have case law where the SCOTUS has ruled this way in our legal system under Stare decisis, what you say is moot and non-binding. true...and, imo, this man who sits in the oval office was used as an in-our-faces selection so as to show that the country is not governed by rule of law, but by the arbitrary rule of elite men. Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
It blows my mind that these Obama supporters have so little regard for the truth and are perfectly willing, and eager, to look past huge mountainous gobs of evidence that all is not well in Toonerville. Calling them dumb schmucks is too kind. true...and, imo, this man who sits in the oval office was used as an in-our-faces selection so as to show that the country is not governed by rule of law, but by the arbitrary rule of elite men. I think that is part but part of it is to sanctify ignoring the Constitution and delegitimizing it as the source of law in the minds of the Sheeple. Or as Geeeeeee Duhbya put it so quaintly: "It's just a goddamned piece of paper." Or they now feel that they are in such total control that they no longer give a damn what we think. There are still enough suckers who will slavishly obey or remain intentionally ignorant that those of us who have woken up just don't matter. it could be that most of us know it's a lost cause... whatever that cause may have been now it's just a matter of waiting until it gets bad enough to do something
Thank you all for inputting on this issue. This has been one of the better Discussions on Eligibility so far. For such a seemingly volitile matter we all maintained good civility and rationale. "If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
#2. To: Ferret (#1)
"Actuslly the big reason I find the issue a moot one is because Obama was born in Hawaii. 'Nuff said. "
#3. To: ndcorup (#2)
#4. To: Ferret (#3)
#5. To: ndcorup, Ferret (#4)
(Edited)
The real point to look at here is that the production of a legitimate Birth Certificate immediately makes the issue go away forever, and yet none has ever been produced and a large amount of money has been spent to fend off demands in court that it be produced.
A. No one will say how his tuition was paid, which his mother could not afford, for the very exclusive private school he attended in Hawaii. The school has sealed their records from public view therefore we know it was someone or some entity other than his mother.
B. His transcripts and all documentation for his time at Occidental College have been suppressed. The University President even went so far as to box them up and take them home to ensure that no one, not even staff, could gain access to them. While it is speculative, without the suppressed documents, the action suggests several possibilities.
1. That he had renounced any U.S. Citizenship and attended Occidental as a Foreign Student. If that is true then he is an illegal alien here on an expired visa. Being an illegal alien would definitely mean that he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
2. If he is an actual U.S. Citizen and applied for Admission, and financial aid, as a foreign student then he is guilty of fraud. There is no good explanation as to why a party party, likely no better than C average student, was given admission to a very exclusive and tough to get into University. Neither can anyone clearly put him there as he was such a nonentity that no one remembers him other than one CIA connected alleged roommate.
The current number he is using is not the only one he has ever used and it is issued for a state (Vermont) in which he has never lived. One PI investigating his background has found that he has used over 20 different SSNs.
This again would make him guilty of multiple frauds.
#6. To: Original_Intent, ferret (#5)
#7. To: Original_Intent (#5)
#8. To: ndcorup (#6)
The ultimate DANGER to our Nation is real!
#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)
#10. To: ndcorup (#4)
"Although the Constitution does not go on to define a “natural born Citizen,” the term is understood to mean a person born in the United States or born abroad to parents who are both American citizens. In Obama’s case, his father was not an American citizen."
#11. To: ndcorup (#2)
"If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
#12. To: James Deffenbach (#7)
That was an excellent post but it will fall on blind eyes. Obama sycophants and supporters are NOTORIOUS for believing that obviously Photoshopped birth certificates are just as good as legitimate ones. None of them have ever even tried to answer why their hero spent so much money to keep his hidden and then produced something that was obviously phony. There is not much help for Obama supporters other than locked up in mental institutions where they won't hurt themselves or others.
#13. To: christine, ndcorup (#11)
"If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
#14. To: Original_Intent (#13)
#15. To: All, lead.and.lag, Original_Intent, christine, Ferret, James Deffenbach (#0)
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