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Title: Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So
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URL Source: http://www.bushstole04.com/fakewar/troops_stop_thanking.htm
Published: May 27, 2012
Author: http://www.bushstole04.com/fakewar/troop
Post Date: 2012-05-27 19:39:08 by tom007
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Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So

Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So SUNDAY, 07 AUGUST 2011 16:11 JESSE RICHARD Let's make one thing crystal clear, no member of the US military contributes in any way whatsoever to protecting the freedoms of the American people. As a matter of fact, they are more likely to turn their weapons on you than they are to defend your Constitutional rights.

The only people on this planet Earth who can affect your freedom are members of Congress, local legislators and the members of enforcement institutions who will blindly follow the rulers who sign their paychecks. And, while your beloved troops are murdering people around the globe, yes, I said murdering, your Congress and local legislators are eliminating your freedoms, en masse, without any intervention by our so-called protectors in the armed forces.

UPDATED....To understand the REAL mission of the US military, and the real impact the US has on DESTROYING democracy and freedom around the world...listen to this confession of a US economic hit man...link.

There is no honor in volunteering to go anywhere in the world and kill anybody you are told to, without question, without historical background and without verifying the stated reasons for doing so. In this modern age of information we now know that time and time again our military have been deployed into battle, to kill and be killed, for reasons that in no way shape or form resemble the reasons for which they, or we were told at the time. This is no secret, although many Americans refuse to take off the flag that is wrapped around their eyes and see American history as it really happened. They blindly believe what was told to them by the people who have a vested interest in maintaining myths and misconceptions.

The US military, not once but twice, committed the single largest mass murders in history by dropping nuclear weapons on civilian populations, including of course, on women and children. Say what you want about how it helped end the war....the bottom line is the US could have exploded these devices over uninhabited territory with the same effect of scaring the heck out of the Japanese. But they followed orders that were lies and murdered almost 300,000 people, without question. As a human being I find it hard to honor such “patriotism.”

From the Gulf of Tonkin to the first and second invasions of Iraq, history now teaches us that lies have led our troops to military intervention more often than not. As a matter of fact, it is hard to find an American military intervention in modern history in which the cover story ends up matching the actual events. A little research will show you this. It will also show you how the same people are usually behind funding both sides of military conflict and those doing the funding and instigating have almost always been, how should I say this, the 'good guys.' Yep, westerners on the popular side of conflict are the ones funding the 'bad guys' before they ever are labeled the bad guys.

Prescott Bush, the father and grandfather of George H.W. and George W. respectively, made his fortune by funding the Nazis and Hitler's rise to power. This is the same clan who went after Saddam Hussein in Iraq after they put him in power and armed him in the first place. But why pay attention to details if it interferes with our troop worship and flag waving?

Time and time again we see that the people who make decisions to send troops to war are the very people who profit financially from such wars. Today's troops can see this. It is part of the public record, yet they still do not question their missions. They join the military with a promise never to question orders. Taking history into account, I see no pride in this kind of service.

Recent history provides a very clear lesson for our troops and those who cheer their missions. You have never seen a more clear and egregious example of questionable motivations for military intervention than during the Bush/Cheney administration. A virtual 'who's who' of defense contractors comprised not only the Defense Policy Board, but the office of Vice President. Not to mention that a significant portion of these men signed a document noting that that a 'new Peal Harbor' would be useful in getting public support for their agenda (to increase military spending and activity), and then - just such an attack - the first Pearl Harbor in 60 years took place on 9/11...what a nice coincidence.

Gee, what are the odds of the only 'Pearl Harbor' in 60 years taking place while the men responsible for preventing one (and in positions to create/allow one) were the same men who wrote about benefiting from one. But according to most Americans, it is crazy to suspect them of anything...simply because they are Americans. If Dick Cheney had been a Muslim he would have been hanged 9 years ago.

Unfortunately, the majority of Americans have neither the intellectual curiosity to actually learn about historical events nor the intelligence to actually think about claims made by their leaders or pop-journalism-gate keeping-icons.

For example: Americans have swallowed whole the concept of our troops “protecting our freedom” without ever once asking “how, how does killing foreigners in Iraq or Afghanistan protect our freedom?” Maybe if they asked that question just once and really waited for an answer, a real answer that actually really made sense to them, they would realize there is no answer - because troops killing foreigners have no impact on the freedoms of the American people, and they never will.

Here is another question Americans have not asked, “How can an Iraqi, Pakistani, Afghan or Islamic fundamentalist in other nations take away our freedom?” The answer to this question is of course...by becoming a member of the US Congress.

It is sad that I will be lambasted for speaking the truth about this sensitive subject, but someone has to. The saddest truth however, is that the members of the US military serve today with no honor. They are dangerous and a threat to all free people, here and abroad. In plain terms - they volunteer to kill at the behest of people who have lied to them for generations about why they are being sent to kill. Generations of lies be dammed, they still follow orders, and kill, without question. I repeat - as a human being I see no honor in this.

While it is true that the existence of our military acts to deter nations from invading our shores, credit really should go more to our nuclear arsenal and military technology than to National Guardsman who find themselves shooting at Iraqis in their own homeland. I don't think that it is a deterrent to have private American “security firms” torture, for fun, the “enemies” who are in their own country, in their own neighborhoods, near their own families, and who dare to fight the American military personnel who obliterated their homes, killed their brothers, sisters, children, mothers and fathers, and occupy their soil. The nerve of them!

In the meantime, your freedoms and protections are being systematically eliminated while government protected rights for corporations are expanding beyond your wildest dreams. If this nation had a legitimate mainstream news media you would know this and you would probably take to the streets and revolt because you would realize what some of us already know, your rights, health and wealth have been under assault while you are distracted by bogey men in foreign nations who are supposedly going to take your freedom away!!!

So how free are you and who exactly are the terrorists. Here is how free you are in your own home in your own country. These are just a few examples - off the top of my head. - there are more...but to start...

You are not allowed to drink raw milk, no matter how healthy it is, because under certain rare conditions may cause health issues), but you do have the right to smoke chemically addicting cigarettes that when used as directed WILL KILL YOU!

You don't have the right to stop your food supply from being contaminated and genetically manipulated, leaving you with no alternative.

You don't have the right to collect rain water or grow your own vegetables to feed your family.

You have no right to stop corporations from poisoning your air and water.

You have no right to treat your ailments naturally because your government has declared that the only way to become healthy is by medications and treatments that will produce big profits for corporations. Healthy food can not benefit your health and if it does the FDA will classify it as a drug.

You have no right to raise your child without injecting toxins and dangerous chemicals directly into their blood streams.

During the Bush/Cheney administration you had no right to free speech. Special zones called “free speech” zones were created and kept far from Bush and Cheney where those who wanted to speak as free Americans could gather.

You are not free to exchange goods and services on your own terms. You must use Federal Reserve Notes, which is NOT U.S. CURRENCY. It is a system of money created and maintained, unconstitutionally, by a cadre of private banks.

You are not free to feed homeless people and if you are homeless you are not free to be fed by your fellow citizens.

We are not free to know about or have any say about secret activities in which our rulers partake. For example what terrible weapons they create, what biological or chemical programs that may accidentally or purposely destroy us all, how they set up and instigate wars and conflict as well as events that justify actions for which they want to take but have no legitimate justifications.

America is not yet a totalitarian dictatorship, but it is clearly on the way to becoming one. And our beloved troops are doing nothing at all to stop this. What is worse is that some day they may actually be the ones to stop you from doing anything about it. They are already practicing to do so.

So if you want to thank people for protecting your freedom...thank journalists...real ones, not establishment hacks, who try to inform you about what is taking place while you are distracted by nonsense. Thank civil liberty lawyers and staff who don't use their education to make it rich charging criminally high fees for their services. Thank whistle blowers. Thank people who risk a backlash of threats and worse to finally speak the truth to people who simply don't want to know there is a truth beyond the myths that have comforted them throughout their lives. And while you do this I'll thank you for at least listening to these uncomfortable words. Reality is not pretty, but if we all open our eyes to reality maybe we can stop those who make it so ugly.

I don't know about you, but I want to be proud of my country for real reasons, not mythical ones.

Think about it. Jesse Richard – Founder, TvNewsLIES.org

tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index...ng-them-for-doing-so.html

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#46. To: Cynicom (#45)

believing and entertaining the idea that NOT ONE AMERICAN MILITARY DEFENDS US, is ludicrous to the point of absurdity.

With all due respect, how is this adjunct of the IDF protecting America today?

Mr_Barnes  posted on  2012-05-28   13:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, Cynicom (#35)

If tomorrow Ron Paul were to call for Americans to rally with arms around Washington, he would be standing alone.

And if someone would have stood up and called the colonists to arms 50 years before it actually happened, they would have been standing alone as well. It would not have been time yet. The colonists would not have had their fill yet. It is no different today.

"...Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. ..." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-28   14:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Mr_Barnes, Tom007, Christine, (#46)

With all due respect, how is this adjunct of the IDF protecting America today?

First let me accept that the statement is true.

And I am President of the United States. Obama for instance, a person that may soon be unemployed.

KNOWING THAT, ALL OF THE MILITARY, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, WILL FOLLOW ANY ORDER, PERHAPS I MIGHT JUST EXECUTE A MILITARY COUP, ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION AND DECLARE MYSELF PRESIDENT FOR LIFE.

What keeps Obama or any other government figure from doing this?

Is it fear of me or any of the masses?

Or is it perhaps the military???

Accepting this authors protestations as fact means we should be on guard every minute for a military coup.

Perhaps others are, I am not. I sleep well accepting that enough of the military is with us to thwart any such adventure.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   14:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Cynicom, James Deffenbach (#45)

JESSE RICHARD Let's make one thing crystal clear, no member of the US military contributes in any way whatsoever to protecting the freedoms of the American people.

James...

It is most difficult for me to accept that so many people on this forum actually believe the above statement.

In a general sense it has become true. The United States military is no long serving the interests of WE THE PEOPLE it is as Smedley Butler put it "muscle men for international capitalism", and more specifically the Banksters and their Masters the Rotchilds.

It is one thing to hold to an ideal and be loyal to one's friends and comrades but it is another to become blind to reality, and the reality is that the American military no longer serves America and it's use has been perverted to foul and evil ends. There is nothing patriotic or noble about breaking down the door of a poor Afghani family in the middle of night and gunning them all down. That is the behavior of monsters and is no different than the actions of the Third Reich or Stalin's Cheka.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-28   14:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#48)

Then your answer is our military is protecting us from a military coup?

Mr_Barnes  posted on  2012-05-28   14:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Phant2000 (#40)

You are guilty of the very things of which you accuse others. Perhaps you should aim your insults, name calling and limited understanding at those who can't see from whom they come.

LOL! Your whole existence on this site is following Cynicom around and agreeing with everything he says. You're his own personal groupie. Personally I think you and he are the same person.

Your understanding is limited to whatever vomit spills from Cynicom mouth.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-05-28   14:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Mr_Barnes (#50)

Then your answer is our military is protecting us from a military coup?

There is no "answer" there, it is merely illustrative how this country works.

I only recall one attempted military coup in my lifetime, it never got beyond the first former General. Butler blew the whistle and FDR was afraid to punish those involved.

General Butler stopped the entire effort by himself.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   14:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, Phant2000 (#51)

LOL! Your whole existence on this site is following Cynicom around and agreeing with everything he says. You're his own personal groupie. Personally I think you and he are the same person.

You need to re-read Phant2000's post #21 carefully because there was nothing from there that would lead me to presume they were agreeing to Cynicom's post.

purplerose  posted on  2012-05-28   15:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#52)

General Butler stopped the entire effort by himself.

I am sure there is a large statue of the man placed in a prominent position at West Point, Along with a engraving of his "War is a Racket" essay.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-05-28   16:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Original_Intent, Cynicom (#49)

It is one thing to hold to an ideal and be loyal to one's friends and comrades but it is another to become blind to reality, and the reality is that the American military no longer serves America and it's use has been perverted to foul and evil ends. There is nothing patriotic or noble about breaking down the door of a poor Afghani family in the middle of night and gunning them all down. That is the behavior of monsters and is no different than the actions of the Third Reich or Stalin's Cheka.

I agree with that. Cyni, I have no doubt that you and others like you served honorably. I had an uncle who was a POW in a German camp and there never was a nicer guy--and he never hated the Germans either. He said they about starved them to death but the people guarding them didn't have any more to eat than they did.

My problem with people in the military is those who will unquestioningly obey orders no matter how absurd or how evil. How does it advance the interests of America or the freedom of Americans for our soldiers to be off halfway around the world killing innocent people and creating terrorists? I don't know about anyone else but I know that if someone came and occupied my town and killed people that I knew had never harmed anyone, and especially if they killed my family and close friends, they would have made a terrorist intent on killing as many of them as he could. I doubt that I fall so far outside the common experience that what I think is beyond the pale.

Those who serve(d) with honor, good on you. But you're not protecting the freedoms of any American halfway around the world killing folks who have done us no harm. And for those who answered that questionnaire with a yes (about killing Americans who refused to disarm because of some stupid and unconstitutional "law,") ef you!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-28   16:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: purplerose (#53)

Salma Hayek sees sinister plots everywhere, even in his closet and under his bed.

Phant and I have one thing in common, I am over 80 and she is near 80.

Phant, Murf and I were all thrown out of FreakRepublic together, then thrown out of one or two other forums including LP. We all landed here and Christine has tolerated us so far.

Phant is an educated, thinking lady, strong willed and strong minded. She often tells me to stop whining and straighten up.

When Salma Hayek gets eighty years tacked onto his hide, he will be all right, as he appears to be a very intelligent young man.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   16:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom (#52)

General Butler stopped the entire effort by himself.

In many other respects Butler was probably a pretty decent man. But he should have shot that communist FDR himself.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-28   16:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: tom007, Cynicom (#54)

General Butler stopped the entire effort by himself.

I am sure there is a large statue of the man placed in a prominent position at West Point, Along with a engraving of his "War is a Racket" essay.

Pleasssse. Annapolis if you will. Butler was a MARINE. Although he never attended the Academy. He became an officer at a time when that was not a requirement. I think he's one of the reasons we now have a strong bias in the military against officers who have not been put through 4 years of higher education mind control regimentation. Those others they tend to think for themselves and be loyal to things other than the narrow interests of the ruling elite into which they have been indoctrinated.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-28   16:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: James Deffenbach (#57)

In many other respects Butler was probably a pretty decent man. But he should have shot that communist FDR himself.

FDR was scared to death, that is why even tho Butler testified against the eight people, nothing was ever done. They all walked away scot free.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   16:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: James Deffenbach, Cynicom (#57) (Edited)

In many other respects Butler was probably a pretty decent man. But he should have shot that communist FDR himself.

It is interesting that like Louis T. McFadden Butler died at a relatively young age just as the drum was beginning to beat for WWII. One of those interesting "coincidences" of history.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-28   16:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Cynicom (#59)

FDR was scared to death, that is why even tho Butler testified against the eight people, nothing was ever done. They all walked away scot free.

I guess that could be an interesting philosophical debate. On the one hand, you take an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, both foreign AND domestic. And here ol' Franklin Deficit Russianvelt who never met a commie he didn't like and had several in his administration could have been taken out. And yet, someone who could be said to have had an affirmative duty to do just that not only didn't do it but turned on those who might have. As I said, it could be an interesting debate.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-28   16:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Original_Intent (#60)

It is interesting that like Louis T. McFadden Butler died relatively young just as the drum was beginning to beat for WWII. One of those interesting "coincidences" of history.

Yeah, as Michael Meyers (the "church lady"?) would say, "Isn't that special?"

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-28   16:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: James Deffenbach (#62)

For Memorial day, Obongo said the troops are coming home.

What wonderful news. viva le Obongo???????

A few weeks ago he said 2500 of them will be going to Australia.

Now we invading Australia????? Whatever for????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   17:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: James Deffenbach (#62)

Yeah, as Michael Meyers (the "church lady"?) would say, "Isn't that special?"

If you're referring to SNL, it was David Spade who played "church lady". And he was a riot to watch.

purplerose  posted on  2012-05-28   18:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom (#56)

Phant, Murf and I were all thrown out of FreakRepublic together, then thrown out of one or two other forums including LP. We all landed here and Christine has tolerated us so far.

Phant is an educated, thinking lady, strong willed and strong minded. She often tells me to stop whining and straighten up.

FreakRepublic seems to have serious issues when it comes to intelligent posters over there. Especially where Rimjob stood with them. I know of their reputation over there. Same with LP.

BTW, I admire well-educated thinking ladies with strong wills and minds. I'm also one of them. :)

purplerose  posted on  2012-05-28   18:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Cynicom (#63)

Now we invading Australia????? Whatever for????

Crikey mate! You got me, I had no idea.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-28   18:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: purplerose (#64)

If you're referring to SNL, it was David Spade who played "church lady". And he was a riot to watch.

I stand corrected. Thank you.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-28   18:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: James Deffenbach (#66)

Stationing them at Darwin, on the northwest coast of Australia.

Just coincidental that Darwin was the high water mark in the southward sweep by Japan. Do you suppose the Aussies think the Japs will do it again????

If you were not around back then, the Aussies took off running south, the Japs did not realize there was nothing there to stop them.

The war plan by Australia was to let the Japs have the entire northern half of Australia.

MacArthur arrived, expecting to find American troops, instead all he had was a rented hotel and ten future staff members. He was furious with FDR and the War Dept.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   18:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Cynicom (#68)

Thanks, I didn't know any of that. Seems funny that with all the people who were furious with that old commie that he still lived to die of natural causes having damned-near destroyed America.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-28   18:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: purplerose (#65)

BTW, I admire well-educated thinking ladies with strong wills and minds. I'm also one of them. :)

As is evidenced by your postings. Thanks for being an active participant. It makes 4um that much better.

Phant2000  posted on  2012-05-28   18:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Phant2000 (#70)

Thank you, Phant2000. ;)

purplerose  posted on  2012-05-28   19:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: purplerose (#65)

BTW, I admire well-educated thinking ladies with strong wills and minds. I'm also one of them. :)

Phants resume makes me look like a piker.

She had voice and dancing lessons when young.

She lords that over me, being a country hick and all.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   21:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Cynicom (#18)

Then you should be eternally grateful to France.

The rebel side of the American Revolutionary War spent most of the war getting their asses handed to them by the British. Many Americans on the rebel side thought that Washington was incompetant and was badly mismanaging the war. The Brits were defeated because France sent a large naval force and an army to the rescue of the rebel side.

strepsiptera  posted on  2012-05-28   23:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Original_Intent (#58)

Pleasssse. Annapolis if you will. Butler was a MARINE. Although he never attended the Academy. He became an officer at a time when that was not a requirement.

Yep, corrected, Butler was an Army guy, I believe he was one of the very few to go from Army private to Gen.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-05-28   23:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Cynicom (#72)

She lords that over me, being a country hick and all.

Sorry, but you don't come across as a hick.

purplerose  posted on  2012-05-28   23:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: purplerose (#75)

Sorry, but you don't come across as a hick.

There is an advantage to being born a hick and remain a hick for life. That way one is at the bottom always looking UP, never down at other people.

The higher one climbs on the social ladder, the more of them that shows to the world.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-29   4:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: strepsiptera (#73)

I think George Washington and some others made it abundantly clear that without France, we would have been sunk.

Indeed that is true. The sad part as I stated is that the huge majority of Colonists did nothing and many profited from the war.

Personally one of my ancestor family died in battle on opening day.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-29   9:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: purplerose (#64)

it was David Spade who played "church lady".

It was Dana Carvey.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-05-29   13:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Turtle, James Deffenbach (#78)

It was Dana Carvey.

Wow! Thank you for the correction.

purplerose  posted on  2012-05-29   14:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Cynicom (#76) (Edited)

There is an advantage to being born a hick and remain a hick for life. That way one is at the bottom always looking UP, never down at other people.

Well, I disagree with the part on one at the bottom always looking UP to other people. I grew up around hicks but I never ever did look up to other people (teachers, parents, etc). I questioned authority from the time I first started elementary school because all I saw was corruption and abuses taking place in the school systems. What life taught me was to never look up to anybody but rather simply just observe them regardless of what their title of nobility or status was in this life. In other words, I never listened to what they told me to do, but rather I watched what they did.

purplerose  posted on  2012-05-29   14:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: purplerose (#79)

It was Dana Carvey.

Wow! Thank you for the correction.

Turtle is right 98.99999% of the time.

Or haven't you noticed?

I'm also adorably cute.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-05-29   14:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Turtle (#81)

Turtle is right 98.99999% of the time.

I think you misplaced your decimal there Turtle. I think it should be in the front before the 98 instead of after. That would make you right almost one percent of the time. Who woulda thunk it? LOL! Thanks for the correction though.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-29   14:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: purplerose (#80)

Point of view I guess.

I was never impressed with people with stations in life, conversely I never looked down at anyone.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-29   14:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: James Deffenbach (#82)

I think you misplaced your decimal there Turtle

Wilson the Assassin Pug will be coming your way very soon.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-05-29   14:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Turtle (#84)

Wilson the Assassin Pug will be coming your way very soon.

Uh huh. Is he trembling with trepidation? You better tell him you were just joking about sending him my way so he won't have a heart attack. Or bite you for thinking that you were trying to get him taken out. >(;^{]

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-05-29   15:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: James Deffenbach (#85)

Uh huh. Is he trembling with trepidation? You better tell him you were just joking about sending him my way so he won't have a heart attack. Or bite you for thinking that you were trying to get him taken out. >(;^{]

Say your prayers -- and do it quickly.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-05-30   13:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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