[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Why is Putin's back against the wall?

First Lady Melania Trump's Full Interview on Fox & Friends

Online site tells you how much Kamala Harris presidency will cost you

Trump's Best Kamala Ad

US warships under attack in Red Sea as 'barrage' of Houthi missiles rain down

Biden and Harris to Offer $153 Million in Awards for States That Adopt Pre-Crime Gun Confiscation Laws

Taxpayer-funded Minneapolis food pantry bans white people

Another Gulf Hurricane for Sunday Oct 6. Same Area as Helene

Lebanon Will Make Israel Regret Its Actions, Iran's Supreme Leader Warns

54 People Rescued from Roof of Hospital in Tennessee Due to Flood Caused by Hurricane Helene

Germany faces economic DISASTER, as Social Democrats drive country into the ground

Warning! Biggest Silver Short Position Recorded - Ed Steer Silver Price Prediction

Kroger was pretty slim pickin's today

Kunstler: America Is "A Headless Horseman Riding Blindly Into Chaos"

Ohio Dem Senator To Hold Event With Group Pushing To Close States Largest Coal Plant

Kamala Harris campaign’s internal polls reveal devastating losses in Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona.

Kamala Harris campaign’s internal polls reveal devastating losses in Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona.

Sea Port STRIKES Happening October 1st!! (We KNEW IT!!!) | Buddy Brown

NYC Mayor Eric Adams Claims He's Being Targeted by Biden for Defending New Yorkers Against Illegal Aliens

What are Israel's goals in Lebanon?

Israeli military build-up near the Lebanese border.

Human remains found at McDonald’s meat supplier by the FBI.

Kamala was caught using actors pretending to be ex-Trump supporters in her ads!

Venezuelan Gang Infiltrates Migrant Shelters to Build Criminal Empire in NYC

Are US Troops Combat Ready for Israel?

Now that's an edit - Russian Power

Shirley Temple On How Hollywood Is Run by Pedophiles

The UN Just Adopted The Pact For The Future Which Lays The Foundation For A New Global Order

Vermont State Police Detain O'Keefe Over Questions About Cease-and-Desist Letter to Whistleblower

Kamala Harris repeats vague talking points with little substance in softball MSNBC interview


Editorial
See other Editorial Articles

Title: The Authoritarian Mind Yet another Afghan family (and a bakery in Pakistan) is extinguished by an airstrike: unleash the justifications
Source: [None]
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 28, 2012
Author: Glenn Greenwald
Post Date: 2012-05-28 15:17:49 by tom007
Keywords: None
Views: 182
Comments: 6

The Authoritarian Mind Yet another Afghan family (and a bakery in Pakistan) is extinguished by an airstrike: unleash the justifications By Glenn Greenwald

220 261 more

The Authoritarian MindMore than 1,500 Afghans block the highway between Kabul and Kandahar in Seed Abad, Wardak province, Afghanistan, Saturday, May 26, 2012. (Credit: AP/Rahmatullah Nikzad)

(updated below – Update II)

Yesterday, I wrote about the rotted workings of the Imperial Mind, but today presents a tragic occasion to examine its close, indispensable cousin: the Authoritarian Mind. From CNN today:

A suspected NATO airstrike killed eight civilians — including six children — in eastern Afghanistan, a provincial spokesman said.

The airstrike took place Saturday night in Paktia province, said Rohullah Samoon, spokesman for the governor of Paktia. He said an entire family was killed in the strike.

The LA Times identified the victims as “Mohammed Shafi, his wife and his six children,” and cited the statements from the spokesman for the Paktia governor’s office that “there is no evidence that Shafi was a Taliban insurgent or linked with Al Qaeda.” The Afghan spokesman blamed the incident on the refusal of NATO to coordinate strikes with Afghan forces to ensure civilians are not targeted (“If they had shared this with us, this wouldn’t have happened”). Also yesterday:

An American drone fired two missiles at a bakery in northwest Pakistan Saturday, killing four suspected militants, officials said, as the U.S. pushed ahead with its drone campaign despite Pakistani demands to stop. This was the third such strike in the country in less than a week. . . .

The officials said the victims were buying goods from a bakery when the missiles hit. Residents were still removing the debris, officials said. All of the dead were foreigners, but the officials did not have any information on their identities or nationalities.

All of this is so widely tolerated, even cheered, among large factions of the American citizenry due to three premises:

(1) I have absolutely no idea who my government is continuously bombing to death by drone, but I assume they deserve it;

(2) when my government extinguishes the lives of entire families, including small children, as it often does, I know it’s all for a just and important cause even if I can’t identify it; and,

(3) we have to stop the Terrorists, because they keep killing innocent civilians.

That’s the Authoritarian Mind, and it appears everywhere the Imperial Mind does.

* * * * *

The Washington Post yesterday reported that “on the periphery of Bagram Airfield, farmers, scrap-metal collectors and sheep herders have been crippled, blinded and burned by U.S. military ammunition on an unfenced and poorly marked training ground.” Because “there is no barrier between nearby villages and the range — it is unclear where the dusty townships end and the vast military training area begins,” Afghan villagers routinely stumble into unexploded ordnance and are severely injured or even killed, all because the U.S. military never bothered to demarcate the base. In 2009, its Commander-in-Chief, President Barack Obama, was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

UPDATE: This contrast from MSNBC’s home page, as it appears right now, speaks volumes about the mindset of the American government and its establishment media:

For why this is exactly the reverse of what a responsible U.S. media outlet would do, see here.

2.bp.blogspot.com/-kOPxVJ...%2BFear%2BMust%2BEnd.tiff

UPDATE II: ABC News‘ Jake Tapper this morning interviewed Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and asked him about civilian deaths caused by U.S. drones: specifically, whether the U.S.’s relentless air strikes in multiple Muslim countries are exacerbating rather than containing the problem of anti-American Terrorism:

TAPPER: President Obama recently said that — recently told John Brennan, his counterterrorism adviser at the White House that he wanted a little bit more transparency when it comes to drones, which are the – is one of the approaches that you’re alluding to in Yemen.

And “The Times of London” reported last week that the civilian casualties in Yemen as a result of drone strikes have, quote, “emboldened Al Qaeda.”

Is there not a serious risk that this approach to counterterrorism, because of its imprecision, because of its civilian casualties, is creating more enemy than it is killing?

PANETTA: First and foremost, I think this is one of the most precise weapons that we have in our arsenal. Number two, what is our responsibility here? Our responsibility is to defend and protect the United States of America.

And using the operations that we have, using the systems that we have, using the weapons that we have, is absolutely essential to our ability to defend Americans. That’s what counts, and that’s what we’re doing.

Note that Panetta studiously ignored, rather than addressed, the question of whether the U.S. — by continuously killing Muslim civilians and thus intensifying anti-American animus — is creating more Terrorists than it is killing and thus making the U.S. less safe. That’s because there is no answer. Continuously bombing Muslim countries and killing civilians ostensibly as a means of combating anti-American Terrorism is exactly like smoking six packs of cigarettes a day to treat emphysema: one would do it only if one wanted to make the problem worse, or, at best, was recklessly indifferent to the outcome.

Permalink Print Short URL

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

#1. To: tom007 (#0)

And all we have to do is select Oromney and this will all end?

Somehow I suspect not.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   15:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

That is not the point and you know it.

The point is that people are complacently accepting greater and greater evil under the phony banner of fighting terrorism.

What is going on is murder pure and simple. Stripped of the covering hogwash innocent men women and children are being murdered under a pretense which is nothing more than cover for another hidden agenda. A hidden agenda which not only allows but supports the foulest of crimes and then people set back and defend the indefensible comforted by the lies they are trying desperately to believe because the alternative is to accept responsibility for crimes worse than are supposedly being fought.

As we watch freedom, decency, and honor fade slowly into the sunset and the darkness descends all we have are people wrapped in their comforting lies.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-28   15:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

That is not the point and you know it.

The point is that people are complacently accepting greater and greater evil under the phony banner of fighting terrorism.

Correct.

One problem however, we cannot seem to find anyone interested in ending these endless wars. Ron Paul was the last and only hope. Ron was military, Oromney and Obongo had better things to do, so endless wars are going to be our future.

For several months now Obongo has been switching gears from the Middle East to Asia and China. We are hemming them in on three sides. Geo politics is an interesting pastime.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-28   15:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#2) (Edited)

As we watch freedom, decency, and honor fade slowly into the sunset and the darkness descends all we have are people wrapped in their comforting lies.

Then let us lie no more.

This is a tyranny. Fuck america. Fuck it in its bloated fat buttery ass with a stick. I can't stand this place and I can't get out. I think about those communities in brazil and how can I get me and mine there and away from this place....

Evil like this does not last. The snake does eat it's own tail... and if we don't collapse on ourselves other nations will eventually nuke the shit out of us because that may be the only way to stop us from taking over the world by killing everyone.

Yes let us not lie anymore... not to ourselves, not to our loved ones and not to our selected leaders.

We live in a vile and disgusting monstrous state that would have no problem murdering me if it took notice of me. IT will murder you, me, our kids, it does not care.

Our government has stopped giving a shit about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happyness.

It wants only to control its own citizens and the citizens of other nations. By mental manipulation or by bullet the USA seeks to control .... everyone really.

WE MUST OVER THROW THIS GOVERNMENT

Not because we are eager to do so over petty events but because the US government has been doing this for awhile and shows no signs of stopping or even any intention of wanting to stop committing so many acts of evil both to her own people and the people of the world.

The USA must be stopped.


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-05-28   16:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: titorite (#4)

Our government has stopped giving a shit about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happyness.

It wants only to control its own citizens and the citizens of other nations. By mental manipulation or by bullet the USA seeks to control .... everyone really.

Vhat do you mean by that sssssssssitizen?

Ist this disloyalty to hour beluffed State?

Ve must deestroy libherty to defennd it must'nt ve sssssssssitizen?

Der Department uff Vaterland Sekurity hast only your bessssst interests at heart. Ve must toture you until you hunderstand that in your broken bones.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-28   16:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#5)

LOL...

Ah yes.. That maybe so but still Liberty before death.


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-05-28   16:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]