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Title: Adam Kokesh debates Webster Tarpley at Occupy Bilderberg
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Published: Jun 2, 2012
Author: Kokesh/Tarpley
Post Date: 2012-06-02 19:49:24 by christine
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Poster Comment: Listen to what Tarpley says about Ron Paul.
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#6. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
I like Adam Kokesh (what I know of him anyway) but I think he is wasting his time with a government lover.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Tarpley's a great historical analyst, and I love listening to him; but, when he swerves off into his current public policy ideas, I want to puke. Thanks for this exchange. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson No, you don't have to go to college to learn a new language. People have been learning each other's tongues for thousand of years before colleges were invented. You can learn to order a hamburger in Hamburg using a phrase book or by signing up at a language school. You can go the hard knocks way and just go live in a place and get it the natural way. But if you're doing more than just traveling, if you're doing business or engineering or medicine, you gotta have your ducks in a row. You have to do some serious study in a structured environment. You want teachers that are steeped in German or Portuguese, or Arab culture. You might need specialized classes where you will learn how to write a report or negotiate some business. Colleges and high schools screwed up language learning for years with bad methods just like they screwed up math instruction and a whole lot of other stuff. I can't say that I have much respect for the American system of education as it has developed over the last 60 years. However, if you really want to use a foreign language, like we're using it now for instance to discuss these kinds of issues, you won't get it off a CD or at Berlitz. You have to commit yourself to a well thought out program and do some serious study. "If you want to exercise political power, you need an organization, and this is where the libertarian mindset fails completely." There is a lot to be said for this indictment of the Ron Paul movement. It's raised a lot of bucks, but in the last analysis it has not even earned a place at the table commensurate with its numbers. In fact, it hasn't earned a place at the table at all. I'm afraid that what he says about RP is true in many ways. As Cyni says, all the energies put forth by Paul supporters in the end have only benefited Romney and gone to earn Rand a seat in the very councils where those vultures sit whom we all despise. Should this prove to be the case, as it looks more and more likely; then I'll have to join others here in sitting out participating on the national level, and concentrate my little efforts here in the local arena. We gave it a shot... Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Sir Lod... Sadly, far too many of my friends here on 4um have not done their homework, nor at least given much time to considering that, JUST PERHAPS THE SYSTEM WAS GAMING ALL OF US. Rand Paul was the answer, to anyone with an open and curious mind. Anyone watching and listening to Rand would never have supported his Father. I had someone on the 4um post the add that Rand has posted on the internet, looking for money to break all big labor unions. No one paid any attention. The system has gamed the American voters one more time.
Tarpley reminds me of Lyndon Larouche - he does a brilliant analysis and then promptly draws the wrong conclusions. As well the Internet Community. But I am Sure We Are Getting More Savvy about a lot of things the established military finance political structures are not too happy about coming out. News Media, obviously included in this as the proximate enabler. He called Ron Paul correctly.
Ah, yes. And when we finally get it all figured out, the bastards will already have handed our asses to us. Gift wrapped in time for the Holiday Season. He called Ron Paul correctly. I was thinking more along his social and economic policies. He doesn't like Ron Paul because he doesn't like the Austrian School. Webster is leftist statist. First time for me to listen to Tarpley, or the other guy. Re von Mises, Hayek, etc etc they were nothing until Rockefeller put them on his payroll. I suspect after the election, many people will have a different view on Ron Paul. Unfettered support by Rand for Oromney should have opened a few peoples eyes, of course those with a closed mind will never see the light.
Gift wrapped in time for the Holiday Season. Indeed. Sadly many will never admit it. Bending over once is ignorance, bending over twice is stupidity.
Bending over twice means that you like it.
I will compromise with you... They liked it and were stupid enough to bend over for free the second time.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson You couldn't have said it better ... but he did see Paul correctly.
Uh-huh. So you continue to spread gloom about the hopelessness of any change. Nevertheless, the people still vote to elect the clowns. It is within their power to radically change the country over a six-year period. It isn't the system. It's the voters. Like it always has been.
Some people with dark glasses at night might see it that way. It would be interesting if they took off their glasses and face reality.
You may never expect anything to change in your lifetime. I do.
For those who have no interest in college but do want to learn a foreign language I recommend busuu.com and Pimsleur. busuu.com
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Yeah, there are a lot of great methods and program out there. They all have their place, and they sell because they do the job to a greater or lesser extent.
That is reassuring, TC. I am once again filled with hope for the Republic. I have seen this little electronic gadget advertised on tv, something called ectaco. It looks like it would be handy for those traveling in a foreign country. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
I'm just happy that I filled your life with purpose.
So is Cynicom Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
Good for him. They need to be broken. Unaccountable, lazy government scum like yourself should not be burdening those who pay their wages by making more than their corporate peers who pay their wages. Losers like yourself who couldn't make it without a government handout shouldn't have a better retirement that those who actually pay your salaries. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
bwhahahahahaha no one buys your leftist drivel. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
I do. He is a big government leftist. The only change he wants is more of what we've been getting. He also claims to be 80 years old so things likely won't change significantly between now and the day the worthless geezer is chucked in the clay. What a great day that will be for the world. One less useless lifelong societal parasite for the taxpayer to feed and take care of. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
leftist???????????????????????????????? Surely even you can do better than that? Try Salma for awhile, to broaden you horizon.
That's right maggot, you are a leftist piece of shit. Your own words betray you mother fucker.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
Such language... It betrays ones character, intelligence and social manners. Like an open book. Truly sad.
You do your cause no justice.
More likely, just a vocal pessimist.
Go fuck yourself loser. At least I didn't spend my entire life sucking off the tit of government and being a parasite upon society like you. I bet you taught your filthy spawn to do the same.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
Good morning young man. I plan on having a good day, up bright and early, see what is happening around the world. The internet, so far, has been a huge asset to mankind, instant communication most anywhere on earth. Tons of knowledge available and numberless masses of people to commincate with.
The proper venue for such demonstrations is the Other Place. They pretty much cultivate explosive and unprovoked demonstrations over there.
Whatever. You may buy into the "wise old man" bullshit he tries to peddle here but I see a worthless lifelong parasite on society. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
I buy into nothin'. There is no need to cuss like that. Hayek... I was near thirty when I realized I knew nothing of the world on my own, everything in my head had been taught to me, in an organized and structured agenda. The question was, perhaps I had been lied to and what had been omitted by design. So I started reading on my own and about that time, to my good fortune, three much older gentlemen entered my life, all were retired, one after thirty two years in the military, WW2 and Korea, another was a retired maritime lawyer and sea captain, the third was a Godson of Dr. Schacht. They were a treasure trove of first hand knowledge, gathered from around the world, over a lifetime of many years. From those three gentlemen, I learned what had been omitted by the state education. My real education was free for the taking.
#7. To: christine, 4 (#0)
#8. To: James Deffenbach (#3)
Webster Tarpley says you have to go to college to learn new languages?
#9. To: Lod (#7)
#10. To: randge, Cynicom, libertarians, 4 (#9)
I'm afraid that what he says about RP is true in many ways. As Cyni says, all the energies put forth by Paul supporters in the end have only benefited Romney and gone to earn Rand a seat in the very councils where those vultures sit whom we all despise.
#11. To: Jethro Tull, Lod, James Deffenbach, Christine, Phant2000, randge, James Deffenbach (#10)
#12. To: christine (#2)
Tarpley is a progressive...
#13. To: randge (#9)
"If you want to exercise political power, you need an organization, and this is where the libertarian mindset fails completely."
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#14. To: Original_Intent (#12)
he does a brilliant analysis and then promptly draws the wrong conclusions.
#15. To: tom007 (#13)
(Edited)
But I am Sure We Are Getting More Savvy about a lot of things
#16. To: Cynicom (#14)
he does a brilliant analysis and then promptly draws the wrong conclusions.
#17. To: Original_Intent (#16)
. He doesn't like Ron Paul because he doesn't like the Austrian School.
#18. To: randge (#15)
. And when we finally get it all figured out, the bastards will already have handed our asses to us.
#19. To: Cynicom (#18)
#20. To: randge (#19)
Bending over twice means that you like it.
#21. To: randge, Cynicom, libertarians, 4 (#20)
a reminder to us that .gov has long planned for their existence, regardless: continuity of government -
#22. To: Original_Intent (#12)
(Edited)
... a brilliant analysis and then promptly draws the wrong conclusions.
#23. To: Cynicom (#11)
The system has gamed the American voters one more time.
#24. To: TooConservative (#23)
Uh-huh. So you continue to spread gloom about the hopelessness of any change.
#25. To: Cynicom (#24)
#26. To: randge (#8)
#27. To: James Deffenbach (#26)
#28. To: TooConservative (#23)
It isn't the system. It's the voters.
#29. To: randge (#27)
#30. To: randge (#28)
I am once again filled with hope for the Republic.
#31. To: Original_Intent, Cynicom (#16)
Webster is leftist statist.
#32. To: Cynicom (#11)
I had someone on the 4um post the add that Rand has posted on the internet, looking for money to break all big labor unions.
#33. To: Cynicom (#17)
Re von Mises, Hayek, etc etc they were nothing until Rockefeller put them on his payroll.
#34. To: TooConservative, Cynicom (#25)
You may never expect anything to change in your lifetime.
#35. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#33)
#36. To: Cynicom (#35)
#37. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#36)
#38. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#36)
#39. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#34)
He is a big government leftist. The only change he wants is more of what we've been getting.
#40. To: Cynicom (#37)
#41. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#40)
#42. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#40)
#43. To: randge (#38)
You do your cause no justice.
#44. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#43)
#45. To: F.A. Hayek Fan.randge (#43)
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