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Title: Hidden treat: The Easter Island heads also have BODIES
Source: The Daily Mail (UK)
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet ... aster-Island-heads-BODIES.html
Published: Jun 7, 2012
Author: Eddie Wrenn
Post Date: 2012-06-07 16:04:07 by Original_Intent
Keywords: archaeology, Easter, Island, Mystery
Views: 497
Comments: 24

The enduring image in the public's mind of the mysterious heads on Easter Island is simply that - heads.

So it comes as quite a shock to see the heads from another angle - and discover that they have full bodies, extending down many, many feet into the ground of the island.

The Easter Island Statue Project has been carefully excavating two of 1,000-plus statues on the islands - doing their best to uncover the secrets of the mysterious stones, and the people who built them.

Inside the Easter Island statues: Experts have known about the bodies before, but when these images started circulating readers doubted their authentricity

Inside the Easter Island statues: Experts have known about the bodies before, but when these images started circulating readers doubted their authenticity

The team also found large quantities of red pigment, some of which may have been used to paint the statues

The team also found large quantities of red pigment, some of which may have been used to paint the statues

Project director Jo Anne Van Tilburg said: 'Our EISP excavations recently exposed the torsos of two 7m tall statues.

'Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of visitors to the island have been astonished to see that, indeed, Easter Island statues have bodies!

'More important, however, we discovered a great deal about the Rapa Nui techniques of ancient engineering.'

Among their discoveries, the team have discovered:

The remote island - one of the remotest in the world, tucked away in the South Pacific Ocean - was once home to a Polynesian population, whose history remains mysterious.

They likely sailed to the islands in canoes - a 1,500-mile journey over the open waters, and then, once they landed, they began relentessly carving the stone statues.

This led to their own downfall: By the time Europeans discovered the island in the 1700s, the population had decimated nearly all the trees in the island to help with the statue construction, and the knock-on effect on the island's ecology led to their decline. The team working on the dig as they unveil the secrets of the heads - excavations recently exposed the torsos of two 7m tall statues

The team working on the dig as they unveil the secrets of the heads - excavations recently exposed the torsos of two 7m tall statues

Here's something not many people know: The Easter Island statues have bodies which go down many feet

Here's something not many people know: The Easter Island statues have bodies which go down many feet

Remote: Easter Island, in the South Pacific sea, is a 64miles-square island - one of the most remote in the world

Remote: Easter Island, in the South Pacific sea, is a 64miles-square island - one of the most remote in the world

The team also discovered that ceremonies were certainly associated with the statues.

On the project website, Van Tilburg said: 'We found large quantities of red pigment, some of which may have been used to paint the statues.

'Finally, and perhaps most poignantly, we found in the pavement under one statue a single stone carved with a crescent symbol said to represent a canoe, or vaka.

'The backs of both statues are covered with petroglyphs, many of which are also vaka. A direct connection between the vaka symbol and the identity of the artist or group owning the statue is strongly suggested.'


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The interesting question that this raises, and not mentioned in the article, is that for the statues to be buried this deep implies a much greater age for them. Thousands of years greater.(5 images)

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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Aha!

Going back the Seventies, I always thought they had to have bodies.

After forty years, they discovered I wuz right all along.

I feel vindicated.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-07   16:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TooConservative (#1)

I feel vindicated.

Stand tall. :-)

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-07   17:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: farmfriend, christine, gengis ghandi, IrishThatcherite, abraxas, wudidiz, CadetD, All (#0)

Ancient World Ping.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-07   17:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: randge (#0)

An interesting discovery and fuel for my ideas on ancient mankind.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-07   17:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Stand tall. :-)

I'm just busting with pride.     : )

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-07   17:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Just riveting images. It's a shame that their writing system was lost. Peruvian slavers just about destroyed the culture of the Rapa Nui.

Some scholars say that they are getting grip on the Rongorongo script, but I haven't yet seen what they've come up with.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-07   17:51:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#6) (Edited)

One of the more interesting notes on the Rongorongo script is that the writing system of the ancient Indus Valley Civilization located at Harappa and Moenhjo Daro is almost identical. So, here we have an island isolated in the most remote quadrant of the Pacific Ocean and the most similar script is found in India? Another, "What doesn't fit and why?" datum. Again I would submit that it is suggestive of an ancient world that did not consist of a bunch of small isolated populations.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-07   18:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#7)

Again I would submit that it is suggestive of an ancient world that did not consist of a bunch of small isolated populations.

I agree.

We've lost more than we can imagine.

I think there were a number of ancient high civilizations of which we have virtually no knowledge. Some may have matched or exceeded our own civilization.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-07   18:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#7)

Again I would submit that it is suggestive of an ancient world that did not consist of a bunch of small isolated populations.

Polynesians were and are brilliant navigators. The Rap Nui weren't isolated from the world. South Seas folk are able to navigate and hit islands thousands of miles away following the stars at night and counting the various periodic swells that cross the Pacific in different directions.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-07   18:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Interesting.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-06-07   21:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative (#8)

We're on the same wavelength. Christopher Dunn, who has done a lot of research and measurements on the Giza Plateau, has found multiple instances of what can only be marks left by large power tools such as very large Rock Cutting Saws.

www.gizapower.com/

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-07   21:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#9)

Again I would submit that it is suggestive of an ancient world that did not consist of a bunch of small isolated populations.

Polynesians were and are brilliant navigators. The Rap Nui weren't isolated from the world. South Seas folk are able to navigate and hit islands thousands of miles away following the stars at night and counting the various periodic swells that cross the Pacific in different directions.

Minor problem though - the Easter Islanders are NOT Polynesians and culturally, because of their legends of a great ocean catastrophe, are fearful of going to sea. They have, or had, a positive phobia about it. By their legends they have been there for as far as they extend back.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-07   21:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#3)

Seems discoveries like this are popping up all over the place. So many unraveling mysteries.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-07   22:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#0)

It's funny, not so long ago this was circulating the Internet, proved to be right after all lol:

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-06-14   14:54:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: wudidiz (#13) (Edited)

Seems discoveries like this are popping up all over the place. So many unraveling mysteries.

We are in age that is both wondrous and terrifying.
We are set on the edge of greatness or oblivion.
The precipice upon which we set is defined by madmen and enlightenment.
Whichever wins will define our future.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-14   15:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: irishthatcherite (#14)

Eventually the truth will out. What I find most interesting about what this says is a point that was studiously avoided by the article. It presents a couple of possibilities:

1. A much much greater age for the statues than has previously been attributed. It would take a verrrrrrrrrrry long time for those statues to be covered up that much by uniformitarian processes.

2. A great catastrophe in the not quite as distant prehistory which resulted in the rapid depositation of soils thus burying them.

Either is a conclusion that would be resisted by lamestream Archrankeology as it does not agree with the dogma of academia. Academia, contrary to popular misconception, is quite violent and virulent in enforcing adherence to the most popular delusions among their ranks. To disagree with their Holy Writ is to court a metaphorical burning at the stake. Just ask John Anthony West who has dared to question the received wisdom conceived in the splendid isolation, from reality, of the Ivory Tower.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-14   15:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#16)

1. A much much greater age for the statues than has previously been attributed. It would take a verrrrrrrrrrry long time for those statues to be covered up that much by uniformitarian processes.

How much exactly?

2. A great catastrophe in the not quite as distant prehistory which resulted in the rapid depositation of soils thus burying them.

A catastrophe that catastrophic would have buried the folks along with it, wouldn't it?

Just devil's advocating it, OI. ; ]

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-14   15:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#16)

It's always the case, estimate downwards the age of an artifact or site.

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-06-14   16:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: randge (#17)

1. A much much greater age for the statues than has previously been attributed. It would take a verrrrrrrrrrry long time for those statues to be covered up that much by uniformitarian processes.

How much exactly?

Too many variables and too many unknowns. Thousands of years certainly, but even the experts (geologists who are actual scientists as opposed to archaeologists who are dogmatists) have trouble with estimating those kinds of data. It depends upon rainfall, runnoff, wind, etc., ...

2. A great catastrophe in the not quite as distant prehistory which resulted in the rapid depositation of soils thus burying them.

A catastrophe that catastrophic would have buried the folks along with it, wouldn't it?

People can move. Statues can't. As well the Easter Islanders do have legends of just such a catastrophe. Their legend has it that Easter Island was a mountain top surrounded by dry land - the site of the fabled Lemuria of the James Churchward books.

Even more interesting is that there were originally two different genetic groups on the Island - the "Long Ears" and the "Short Ears". For a long time the "Long Ears" were the dominant group but were eventually wiped out by the "Short Ears". And they literally did have long ears - long extended earlobes. Interestingly if you look at pictures of Buddha and his contemporaries they had long ear lobes, much longer than what would be regarded today has the human norm. However, that creates another tie-in to Vedic India.

There are all sorts of interesting connections and tie-ins in the ancient world when you start digging through ancient records and legends. If one grants that legend usually had an origin in fact, however distorted it becomes over time, then the data begins tying together to paint a much different picture than the party line.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-14   16:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: irishthatcherite (#18)

It's always the case, estimate downwards the age of an artifact or site.

I would tend to agree. The Great Pyramid on Giza is dated by the lamestream to about 3500 BC. However, the indirect evidence suggests a much greater age of at least 18 to 25 thousand years before present, and very possibly much older. One Stele translated by Ibn Ben Said gave a date that would be 74,000 years before present. So, the likely true age, when you throw out the dogmatic conclusions/occlusions is IMHO at least 18,000 years although based other indirect evidences and commentaries probably closer to the aforementioned 74,000 years before present.

One of the more interesting tidbits is Plato's commentary in his dialogs The Tinnaeus and The Critias with Solon quoting the Egyptian Scribes as saying they had records going back 100,000 years.

The growing weight of accumulating evidences suggests to my mind that is a not unreasonable figure.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-14   16:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#15)

We are in age that is both wondrous and terrifying.
We are set on the edge of greatness or oblivion.
The precipice upon which we set is defined by madmen and enlightenment.
Whichever wins will define our future.

Author?


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-14   19:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: wudidiz (#21)

Author?

Moi.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-14   19:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#22)

I guessed so...


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-14   23:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#20)

74,000 years before present.

The twin philosophical pillars of Western society, Abrahamicism and secularist science both have the same agenda - to keep us from thinking modern Man goes a lot further back in antiquity than we are led to believe.

One of the more interesting tidbits is Plato's commentary in his dialogs The Tinnaeus and The Critias with Solon quoting the Egyptian Scribes as saying they had records going back 100,000 years.

No wonder the Roman Church burned the Libary of Alexandria..

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-06-15   11:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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