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Title: Rand Paul officially endorses Mitt Romney on Hannity Show (!) 6/7/12)
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c5odNzKVbk
Published: Jun 8, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-06-08 00:46:04 by Artisan
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#24. To: wakeup (#22)
He's better off, or everyone is better off, if he stays in the senate a few terms and gains some clout. As a VP he'll do little good. At least that's providing that he's still one of the good guys.
So much for the theory that Rand will be the benefactor of the Freedom movement dad is building.
Looks like Ron may get VP, hopefully Mittens will pull a William Henry Harrison, and Rand will be lining himself for Prez. in '16. I think Ron wants to avoid the Paulians from getting their heads bashed in Tampa, and perhaps he will be a VP not unlike Cheney, who actually ran the show. Time will tell.
Ron Paul made a deal with the devil, Rand will be the beneficiary. That "deal" was consummated many months ago. Anyone shifting their allegiance to Rand is making a huge mistake.
Time to pass the pipe, Ly. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Rand is bad on enough issues (including pot/drug legalization) that I strongly suspect that he too is corrupt. He has been in office a short enough time that he could conceivably do some good still, but with his dad out of the picture I think that is increasingly unlikely. Ron himself is unfortunately surrounded by people unworthy of his intellect. His own campaign manager, Jesse Benton who did a terrible job TWICE, has been chained to Ron via some marriage into the family. Ron's misguided sense of loyalty is his undoing. It's a no-win situation. Only if Ron Paul was a loner with no ties to family to bribe or threaten could he be uncorrupted or uncompromisable. Of course, that would make him an utter unelectable freak in the eyes of the media and public. It would be like being a declared atheist. Vote absentee. It is a paper ballot Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. For your theory to hold true, Rand would have to be Romney's VP, or be given a power position in his potential cabinet. I seriously doubt that the Establishment Pubes want anything to do with RPs folks, most of whom won't be bothering to support Romney.
My theory months ago that Ron Was not running for president sadly proved to be correct. I also stated we would have to wait to see what the payoff would be for Ron. If either pulls off VP, Sec State or Def. no further "proof" needs be added. Myself, I see Rand as the winner as VP, Sec State or def. From the past behavior of Rons supporters, MANY DIE HARDS WILL NOT STAND UP, RATHER THEY WILL BEND OVER...AGAIN. Shameful, the SYSTEM HAS WON AGAIN.
I think it's likely that that the Establishment Pukes will try to throw them some kind of bone. Unless they can rip 'Bama a major hemorrhage between now and November, they'll need the damn votes. But Rand Paul is not on anybody's short list and that list is depressing reading. It's like being orphaned for the holidays by your folks and you get to pick which drunk uncle you're gonna stay with. Come to think of it, I'd rather hang out with my drunk uncle that spend the summer with someone like Rob Portman. Are you suggesting that RPs supporters will now be inclined to vote for Romney?
I'm guessing you are also a supporter of RP? If so randge, is there any bone the Establishment could throw us (save refusing to send kids off to unconstitutional wars) that could appease us? I can't think of one besides what I just mentioned.
The "bone" was long ago agreed upon. The Pauls are not naive enough to wait until after the fact to see what their pay off will be. It is signed, sealed and will be delivered. Too many people are forgetting , the Pauls are republican politicians.
My God, Jethro, the huge majority are dyed in the wool REPUBLICANS. They WILL DO THEIR DUTY.
yep, f them all.
Uhhh, not nice young lady.
I'm guessing you are also a supporter of RP? If so randge, is there any bone the Establishment could throw us (save refusing to send kids off to unconstitutional wars) that could appease us? Let's boil our bones. It now boils down to Goode or Johnson.....Rand hopping on the RINO bandwagon to tour the nation solidifies our choices. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
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This is dead on true, A.
I am, or I guess I was. I performed my last affirmative act in that regard by voting for RP in the primary and didn't stick around for the caucus. This doggie wants red meat and not scraps off the master's table. I don't know what Romney could offer many of us. A surprize pick of Rand would be a gesture in that direction, but I don't think that is likely, and in any case it wouldn't do much to assuage my concerns with respect to the Stormin' Mormon. Now the wifey, she is anybody but 'Bama. She might go that way. I'm stayin' home in November or votin' third party. They WILL DO THEIR DUTY. Sorry my friend, but you're wildly of the mark. Do an instant poll here on 4um and you'll get a good grasp of just how many RP supporters will vote for Romney. Cyni, FYI, there are poor losers and poor winners....
Me too, but I won't be bothering to vote. My last presidential vote was for Buchanan in '00 when he ran under the Reform party banner. My last pubbie vote was for Bush #41 in 88. My political soul is clean.
What? He didn't bail out: Ron Paul's Speech at the Texas GOP Convention (1 of 4) ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I'm not even going to bother to vote. Not only won't they win, we'll be lucky if anyone pays attention to the miniscule vote totals that they get. Write in Ron Paul? No one will count that. A bigger statement will be made by being registered to vote but abstaining to do so. Low voter turnouts is something that the media and both wings of the party pay attention to. Neither Mitt nor Obama will save the country, it is toast. But if Obama's re-election destroys the sham of the GOP and the two party farce there will be some satisfaction in that. If Romney wins, the illusion continues, and fools on both sides will say "Just wait until 2016!" Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. Cyni, FYI, there are poor losers and poor winners.... I did not win anything, I lost just like the rest of Pauls supporters. I went down the tubes big time in 08 and fell for a sucker punch. Not twice by the same politician. Those that are now scorned by the Pauls one more time, need to suck it up, because the Pauls ARE NOT THRU WITH THEM YET. I kid you about the wet kisses and smoochies at the convention, my estimate is that it will turn our stomachs. You aint seen nuthin yet. This deal with the devil goes far beyond this years election. The Bush tribe is waiting to dry gulch anyone that MIGHT INFRINGE ON JEBS FUTURE. We all lost Jethro, get beyond that, what the deal attempts to do is beyond our comprehension. Currently, I believe the system has decided to have done with Obongo, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, HIS TIME HAS COME. Odds on Oromney and continued wars, change of color only.
Neither Mitt nor Obama will save the country, it is toast. But if Obama's re-election destroys the sham of the GOP and the two party farce there will be some satisfaction in that. If Romney wins, the illusion continues, and fools on both sides will say "Just wait until 2016!" Excellent.
I think you seriously overestimate the number of Ron Paul supporters who would vote for Romney/GOP-diehards. Olbomber will be re-elected.
Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. Jethro... Currently most of odds makers still favor Obongo. "NBC/Marist 5/22 - 5/24 1,040 RV 48 Obama 46 Romney If they shift, we will see Pauls input as a plus, no shift Pauls input neutral or negative.
Latest polls agree. They were taken before the Paul endorsement. Before Paul there were 5 per cent undecided. If polls shift, Paul has had an effect.
good comment, Neil
I didn't support RP in '08, in fact I intentionally left this 4um for nearly a month so as not to rain on their parade. I supported him this time, and got burnt. That said, your assumption that RP folks are going to vote for Romney is off the mark. Did they vote for McCain in '08? All Rand did with this announcement is blow up the Liberty movement RP created. As to his motive, well, I'm thinking he's a politician as you are found of saying, but I'm open to any and all hunches.
Nearly sixty million voted for McKook Jethro. Sixty million. Romney surely is more palatable than McKook and Obongo is still black. If Oromney wins it will be because of democrat votes, last time they went black. Not all democrats are that hide bound.
I daresay you're on the money there, Cyni. It going to be lookin' for coon's eggs him trying to round up votes from the liberty hard-asses. Libertarians, constitutionalists, paleos. O'Romney is going to have to dig into O'Bomber's base. It is going to be truly indecent viewing. 18 and older, for sure. Hard shelled democrat friend of mine, 84 years olde, has NEVER VOTED FOR A "REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT"... This time, he will either not vote or vote Oromney. I suspect there are a lot more. A no vote for Obongo is in fact a vote for Oromney. Note so far there has been no daily public endorsements by republicans for Obongo???? I still say, the system has decided it is time for Obongo to go, one way or another.
ANYONE who supports someone who wishes to start a war with Iran, and who welcomes the NDAA provision to imprison American citizens (or ANYONE for that matter) without charges or trial, is unfit to serve in ANY government position. Rand must have gotten a very nice "promise" out of the deal, to the detriment of not only his own dad, but for the rest of America. Just like George W. Bush right? LOL! I can see how this will play out already. He will cut the budget by 1% and call it a victory. am grateful for Senator Paul’s support and look forward to working with him to get America back on the right track. While disappointing, it is not surprising. Dr. Paul's son leans towards neoconservative in many of his views. Especially on the subjects of the faux WOT and the apartheid country of Israel. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
If you mean for Rand in any future election, same here. Hell, I MIGHT even consider voting for Oboingo just to keep Romney out of office. Once again, I'm resonating with your sentiments. "Obama" is a damaged brand. He started out with zero credibility with any kind of a conservative, he hasn't convinced moderates of much of anything, and he hasn't put anything on the table for the Left. In addition, growing doubts about who exactly this character is have proven to be marginally but effectively apparent. Although I am far from traveling in those circles, the elites that have put the man in the position that he occupies must have concluded by now that he is an incompetent. They will want a manager for what is coming, not a Drone King who spends his time smoking Kools in his private lair. Actually if one wants to ignite the fuse, vote for the White guy (since both suck on ice). The selection of the White guy will ignite the cities.
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#25. To: Artisan (#0)
#26. To: Artisan (#0)
#27. To: Jethro Tull, Phant2000, Christine, Rubes (#25)
So much for the theory that Rand will be the benefactor of the Freedom movement dad is building.
#28. To: Lysander_Spooner (#26)
Looks like Ron may get VP...
#29. To: Pinguinite (#20)
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Rand seems to have forgotten how corrupt everyone but Ron is. Very disappointing.
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
#30. To: Cynicom (#27)
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
For your theory to hold true, Rand would have to be Romney's VP, or be given a power position in his potential cabinet. I seriously doubt that the Establishment Pubes want anything to do with RPs folks, most of whom won't be bothering to support Romney.
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
I seriously doubt that the Establishment Pubes want anything to do with RPs folks
#33. To: Cynicom (#31)
From the past behavior of Rons supporters, MANY DIE HARDS WILL NOT STAND UP, RATHER THEY WILL BEND OVER...AGAIN. Shameful, the SYSTEM HAS WON AGAIN.
#34. To: randge (#32)
I think it's likely that that the Establishment Pukes will try to throw them some kind of bone
#35. To: randge, Jethro tull (#32)
I think it's likely that that the Establishment Pukes will try to throw them some kind of bone
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
Are you suggesting that RPs supporters will now be inclined to vote for Romney?
#37. To: titorite (#8)
God damn it.... I am moving back to my original opinion regarding US politics. They're all corrupt!
#38. To: christine (#37)
#39. To: Jethro Tull, Randge (#34)
I think it's likely that that the Establishment Pukes will try to throw them some kind of bone
#40. To: noone222 (#14)
#41. To: Buzzard (#16)
Placing ones faith in a politician is akin to hauling water with a strainer.
#42. To: Artisan (#11)
As a writer on lewrockwell wrote the other day after experiencing the circus of trying to be a Paul delagate, snhe says she should have better spent her time enjoying her family and playing the banjo. well heeded advice for all of us
#43. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
I'm guessing you are also a supporter of RP?
#44. To: Cynicom (#36)
My God, Jethro, the huge majority are dyed in the wool REPUBLICANS.
#45. To: randge (#43)
I'm stayin' home in November or votin' third party
#46. To: noone222 (#14)
Seems that Ron Paul is incapable of hanging in there past the Texas delegate convention. He's bailed out twice as his constituency were arriving at the convention.
#47. To: abraxas (#39)
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Let's boil our bones. It now boils down to Goode or Johnson.....Rand hopping on the RINO bandwagon to tour the nation solidifies our choices.
There is a fine line between "The enemy of my enemy..." and "With friends like this, who needs enemies?".
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
#48. To: Artisan, Jethro Tull, Christine, Phant2000, randge, Esso (#44)
Sorry my friend, but you're wildly of the mark. Do an instant poll here on 4um and you'll get a good grasp of just how many RP supporters will vote for Romney.
#49. To: PnbC (#47)
Low voter turnouts is something that the media and both wings of the party pay attention to.
#50. To: Cynicom (#48)
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There is a fine line between "The enemy of my enemy..." and "With friends like this, who needs enemies?".
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
#51. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
#52. To: PnbC (#50)
Olbomber will be re-elected.
#53. To: Pinguinite (#20)
#54. To: Cynicom (#48)
I went down the tubes big time in 08 and fell for a sucker punch. Not twice by the same politician. Those that are now scorned by the Pauls one more time, need to suck it up, because the Pauls ARE NOT THRU WITH THEM YET
#55. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
I supported him this time, and got burnt.
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
Did they vote for McCain in '08?
#57. To: Cynicom (#56)
If Oromney wins it will be because of democrat votes,
#58. To: randge (#57)
If Oromney wins it will be because of democrat votes,
#59. To: Artisan (#0)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#60. To: Artisan (#5)
As President, I will reform the federal government and make it smaller, simpler, and smarter.
#61. To: farmfriend (#1)
lost my vote
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#62. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#33)
Are you suggesting that RPs supporters will now be inclined to vote for Romney?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#63. To: Cynicom (#58)
I still say, the system has decided it is time for Obongo to go, one way or another.
#64. To: FormerLurker (#62)
Hell, I MIGHT even consider voting for Oboingo just to keep Romney out of office.
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