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Title: Rand Paul officially endorses Mitt Romney on Hannity Show (!) 6/7/12)
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c5odNzKVbk
Published: Jun 8, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-06-08 00:46:04 by Artisan
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#19. To: titorite (#8)

Ferret  posted on  2012-06-08   9:05:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Artisan (#0)

I can't listen to the whole thing. If he's going to do this, why not *at least* wait until Romney wins the nomination, if he does that. Does he not know about Ron's delegate strategy? Why do it now? Did he have a fight with Ron?

Not that that's good either -- it's not, as Romney won't do anything good he may promise -- but why now? Rand seems to have forgotten how corrupt everyone but Ron is. Very disappointing.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-06-08   9:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan, All (#0) (Edited)

French Canadian comment at ronpaul.com: "The host at Fox, clearly state that Ron Paul is mad with him and that he doesn’t want to come back to his show. And this is THE show that Rand Paul chooses to endorse Romney?"

Question at 5:36 in the video: "Will you go out on the campaign trail for Governor Romney?"

Answer: "Yes, and uh, I think uh that I can be an asset in solidifying the conservative base of the party. But I also think that uh myself, my father and the movement that he started attracts a lot of Independents also. So a lot of these young people aren't necessarily the conservative base."

He must be talking about the residual Neocon-basement of the GOP. The real conservative base of the Republican party has been solidified all along for Ron Paul. Sounds to me like he's on a Faustian-mission to hoodwink Independent young people into defecting from his father, Champion of the Constitution, to Mitt Romney the RINO - a Republican In Name Only and Fake-Conservative. I don't think they'll much appreciate him insulting their intelligence and loyalty so. This is just more evidence that the Constitutional base of the Republican party has no real representation in the lowdown, RINO and Neocon infiltrated GOP.

Edited for highlighting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-06-08   9:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pinguinite (#20)

Could it be that Rand wants the VP slot?

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wakeup  posted on  2012-06-08   9:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: wakeup (#22)

The ziobergers may have chosen mitch daniels as their veep.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-06-08   10:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: wakeup (#22)

He's better off, or everyone is better off, if he stays in the senate a few terms and gains some clout. As a VP he'll do little good.

At least that's providing that he's still one of the good guys.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-06-08   10:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Artisan (#0)

So much for the theory that Rand will be the benefactor of the Freedom movement dad is building.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-06-08   10:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Artisan (#0)

Looks like Ron may get VP, hopefully Mittens will pull a William Henry Harrison, and Rand will be lining himself for Prez. in '16.

I think Ron wants to avoid the Paulians from getting their heads bashed in Tampa, and perhaps he will be a VP not unlike Cheney, who actually ran the show.

Time will tell.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-06-08   10:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull, Phant2000, Christine, Rubes (#25)

So much for the theory that Rand will be the benefactor of the Freedom movement dad is building.

Ron Paul made a deal with the devil, Rand will be the beneficiary.

That "deal" was consummated many months ago.

Anyone shifting their allegiance to Rand is making a huge mistake.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   10:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Lysander_Spooner (#26)

Looks like Ron may get VP...

Time to pass the pipe, Ly.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-06-08   10:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Pinguinite (#20) (Edited)

Rand seems to have forgotten how corrupt everyone but Ron is. Very disappointing.

Rand is bad on enough issues (including pot/drug legalization) that I strongly suspect that he too is corrupt. He has been in office a short enough time that he could conceivably do some good still, but with his dad out of the picture I think that is increasingly unlikely.

Ron himself is unfortunately surrounded by people unworthy of his intellect. His own campaign manager, Jesse Benton who did a terrible job TWICE, has been chained to Ron via some marriage into the family. Ron's misguided sense of loyalty is his undoing.

It's a no-win situation. Only if Ron Paul was a loner with no ties to family to bribe or threaten could he be uncorrupted or uncompromisable. Of course, that would make him an utter unelectable freak in the eyes of the media and public. It would be like being a declared atheist.

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PnbC  posted on  2012-06-08   10:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#27)

For your theory to hold true, Rand would have to be Romney's VP, or be given a power position in his potential cabinet. I seriously doubt that the Establishment Pubes want anything to do with RPs folks, most of whom won't be bothering to support Romney.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-06-08   10:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

For your theory to hold true, Rand would have to be Romney's VP, or be given a power position in his potential cabinet. I seriously doubt that the Establishment Pubes want anything to do with RPs folks, most of whom won't be bothering to support Romney.

My theory months ago that Ron Was not running for president sadly proved to be correct.

I also stated we would have to wait to see what the payoff would be for Ron. If either pulls off VP, Sec State or Def. no further "proof" needs be added.

Myself, I see Rand as the winner as VP, Sec State or def.

From the past behavior of Rons supporters, MANY DIE HARDS WILL NOT STAND UP, RATHER THEY WILL BEND OVER...AGAIN. Shameful, the SYSTEM HAS WON AGAIN.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   10:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

I seriously doubt that the Establishment Pubes want anything to do with RPs folks

I think it's likely that that the Establishment Pukes will try to throw them some kind of bone. Unless they can rip 'Bama a major hemorrhage between now and November, they'll need the damn votes.

But Rand Paul is not on anybody's short list and that list is depressing reading. It's like being orphaned for the holidays by your folks and you get to pick which drunk uncle you're gonna stay with. Come to think of it, I'd rather hang out with my drunk uncle that spend the summer with someone like Rob Portman.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-08   10:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#31)

From the past behavior of Rons supporters, MANY DIE HARDS WILL NOT STAND UP, RATHER THEY WILL BEND OVER...AGAIN. Shameful, the SYSTEM HAS WON AGAIN.

Are you suggesting that RPs supporters will now be inclined to vote for Romney?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-06-08   10:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: randge (#32)

I think it's likely that that the Establishment Pukes will try to throw them some kind of bone

I'm guessing you are also a supporter of RP? If so randge, is there any bone the Establishment could throw us (save refusing to send kids off to unconstitutional wars) that could appease us? I can't think of one besides what I just mentioned.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-06-08   10:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: randge, Jethro tull (#32)

I think it's likely that that the Establishment Pukes will try to throw them some kind of bone

The "bone" was long ago agreed upon. The Pauls are not naive enough to wait until after the fact to see what their pay off will be.

It is signed, sealed and will be delivered.

Too many people are forgetting , the Pauls are republican politicians.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   10:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

Are you suggesting that RPs supporters will now be inclined to vote for Romney?

My God, Jethro, the huge majority are dyed in the wool REPUBLICANS.

They WILL DO THEIR DUTY.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   10:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: titorite (#8)

God damn it.... I am moving back to my original opinion regarding US politics. They're all corrupt!

yep, f them all.

christine  posted on  2012-06-08   10:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#37)

Uhhh, not nice young lady.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   11:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull, Randge (#34)

I think it's likely that that the Establishment Pukes will try to throw them some kind of bone

I'm guessing you are also a supporter of RP? If so randge, is there any bone the Establishment could throw us (save refusing to send kids off to unconstitutional wars) that could appease us?

Let's boil our bones. It now boils down to Goode or Johnson.....Rand hopping on the RINO bandwagon to tour the nation solidifies our choices.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-06-08   11:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: noone222 (#14)

A+++

christine  posted on  2012-06-08   11:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Buzzard (#16)

Placing ones faith in a politician is akin to hauling water with a strainer.

that

christine  posted on  2012-06-08   11:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Artisan (#11)

As a writer on lewrockwell wrote the other day after experiencing the circus of trying to be a Paul delagate, snhe says she should have better spent her time enjoying her family and playing the banjo. well heeded advice for all of us

This is dead on true, A.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-06-08   11:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

I'm guessing you are also a supporter of RP?

I am, or I guess I was. I performed my last affirmative act in that regard by voting for RP in the primary and didn't stick around for the caucus.

This doggie wants red meat and not scraps off the master's table. I don't know what Romney could offer many of us. A surprize pick of Rand would be a gesture in that direction, but I don't think that is likely, and in any case it wouldn't do much to assuage my concerns with respect to the Stormin' Mormon.

Now the wifey, she is anybody but 'Bama. She might go that way. I'm stayin' home in November or votin' third party.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-08   11:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom (#36)

My God, Jethro, the huge majority are dyed in the wool REPUBLICANS.

They WILL DO THEIR DUTY.

Sorry my friend, but you're wildly of the mark. Do an instant poll here on 4um and you'll get a good grasp of just how many RP supporters will vote for Romney.

Cyni, FYI, there are poor losers and poor winners....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-06-08   11:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: randge (#43)

I'm stayin' home in November or votin' third party

Me too, but I won't be bothering to vote. My last presidential vote was for Buchanan in '00 when he ran under the Reform party banner. My last pubbie vote was for Bush #41 in 88. My political soul is clean.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-06-08   11:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: noone222 (#14)

Seems that Ron Paul is incapable of hanging in there past the Texas delegate convention. He's bailed out twice as his constituency were arriving at the convention.

What? He didn't bail out:

Ron Paul's Speech at the Texas GOP Convention (1 of 4)

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GreyLmist  posted on  2012-06-08   11:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: abraxas (#39) (Edited)

Let's boil our bones. It now boils down to Goode or Johnson.....Rand hopping on the RINO bandwagon to tour the nation solidifies our choices.

I'm not even going to bother to vote. Not only won't they win, we'll be lucky if anyone pays attention to the miniscule vote totals that they get. Write in Ron Paul? No one will count that. A bigger statement will be made by being registered to vote but abstaining to do so. Low voter turnouts is something that the media and both wings of the party pay attention to.

Neither Mitt nor Obama will save the country, it is toast. But if Obama's re-election destroys the sham of the GOP and the two party farce there will be some satisfaction in that. If Romney wins, the illusion continues, and fools on both sides will say "Just wait until 2016!"


Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
There is a fine line between "The enemy of my enemy..." and "With friends like this, who needs enemies?".
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2012-06-08   11:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Artisan, Jethro Tull, Christine, Phant2000, randge, Esso (#44)

Sorry my friend, but you're wildly of the mark. Do an instant poll here on 4um and you'll get a good grasp of just how many RP supporters will vote for Romney.

Cyni, FYI, there are poor losers and poor winners....

I did not win anything, I lost just like the rest of Pauls supporters.

I went down the tubes big time in 08 and fell for a sucker punch. Not twice by the same politician. Those that are now scorned by the Pauls one more time, need to suck it up, because the Pauls ARE NOT THRU WITH THEM YET.

I kid you about the wet kisses and smoochies at the convention, my estimate is that it will turn our stomachs. You aint seen nuthin yet.

This deal with the devil goes far beyond this years election. The Bush tribe is waiting to dry gulch anyone that MIGHT INFRINGE ON JEBS FUTURE.

We all lost Jethro, get beyond that, what the deal attempts to do is beyond our comprehension.

Currently, I believe the system has decided to have done with Obongo, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, HIS TIME HAS COME.

Odds on Oromney and continued wars, change of color only.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   11:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: PnbC (#47)

Low voter turnouts is something that the media and both wings of the party pay attention to.

Neither Mitt nor Obama will save the country, it is toast. But if Obama's re-election destroys the sham of the GOP and the two party farce there will be some satisfaction in that. If Romney wins, the illusion continues, and fools on both sides will say "Just wait until 2016!"

Excellent.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   11:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#48) (Edited)

I think you seriously overestimate the number of Ron Paul supporters who would vote for Romney/GOP-diehards. Olbomber will be re-elected.


Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
There is a fine line between "The enemy of my enemy..." and "With friends like this, who needs enemies?".
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2012-06-08   11:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull (#45)

Jethro...

Currently most of odds makers still favor Obongo.

"NBC/Marist 5/22 - 5/24 1,040 RV 48 Obama 46 Romney

If they shift, we will see Pauls input as a plus, no shift Pauls input neutral or negative.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   11:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: PnbC (#50)

Olbomber will be re-elected.

Latest polls agree.

They were taken before the Paul endorsement.

Before Paul there were 5 per cent undecided.

If polls shift, Paul has had an effect.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   11:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Pinguinite (#20)

good comment, Neil

christine  posted on  2012-06-08   11:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#48)

I went down the tubes big time in 08 and fell for a sucker punch. Not twice by the same politician. Those that are now scorned by the Pauls one more time, need to suck it up, because the Pauls ARE NOT THRU WITH THEM YET

I didn't support RP in '08, in fact I intentionally left this 4um for nearly a month so as not to rain on their parade. I supported him this time, and got burnt. That said, your assumption that RP folks are going to vote for Romney is off the mark. Did they vote for McCain in '08? All Rand did with this announcement is blow up the Liberty movement RP created. As to his motive, well, I'm thinking he's a politician as you are found of saying, but I'm open to any and all hunches.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-06-08   12:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Jethro Tull (#54)

I supported him this time, and got burnt.

Now, don't you feel better now that you've been shaved? (Or is it 'sheared'?)

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-08   13:01:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#54)

Did they vote for McCain in '08?

Nearly sixty million voted for McKook Jethro.

Sixty million.

Romney surely is more palatable than McKook and Obongo is still black.

If Oromney wins it will be because of democrat votes, last time they went black. Not all democrats are that hide bound.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   13:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom (#56)

If Oromney wins it will be because of democrat votes,

I daresay you're on the money there, Cyni.

It going to be lookin' for coon's eggs him trying to round up votes from the liberty hard-asses. Libertarians, constitutionalists, paleos. O'Romney is going to have to dig into O'Bomber's base. It is going to be truly indecent viewing. 18 and older, for sure.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-08   13:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: randge (#57)

If Oromney wins it will be because of democrat votes,

Hard shelled democrat friend of mine, 84 years olde, has NEVER VOTED FOR A "REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT"...

This time, he will either not vote or vote Oromney.

I suspect there are a lot more. A no vote for Obongo is in fact a vote for Oromney.

Note so far there has been no daily public endorsements by republicans for Obongo????

I still say, the system has decided it is time for Obongo to go, one way or another.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-08   13:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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