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Title: The Man That Shot Liberty In The Back- Rand Paul (watch!)
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Published: Jun 8, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-06-08 10:51:35 by christine
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#1. To: All (#0)

his final words.."what do you say? it's over."

christine  posted on  2012-06-08   10:57:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine, 4 (#1)

his final words.."what do you say? it's over."

I could only stand about 1 minute of his sniveling. I despise whiners. I just hate them with a passion.

It's not over.

This is what happens when one depends on another man (or woman) to make things right, when that person should take personal responsibility to shape their own destinies, and quit depending on others. If everyone would do that, there would be no more psychopathic leaders, because these psychopaths depend on others to depend on them.

So now he is all sad. Poor baby needs a pacifier. Sucks to be him. He is no better than a sheep. In fact, imo, he is even lower than a sheep.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-06-08   13:35:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA2, randge (#22)

I could only stand about 1 minute of his sniveling. I despise whiners. I just hate them with a passion.

It's not over.

I agree. I guess I'd say let those who are most disappointed have a bit of grief. But that is no reason to quit. We have made tremendous progress and the future will hold many more opportunities, particularly as the overseas empire and its financial burden turns into a political and fiscal shooting war with the retiring Baby Boomers. And these poor kids who were sold into paying all the bills for it before they were even born; you know they aren't going to tolerate that forever because they want to have kids and a house too.

Just as we are seeing the beginning of the end of the big public employee union goons in recent news, this fight I am describing is coming much sooner than later. The Empire vs. the Boomers. But you can't win if you desert the battle. History is not made by the fickle or the timid.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-08   14:21:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TooConservative (#26)

The Empire vs. the Boomers. But you can't win if you desert the battle. History is not made by the fickle or the timid.

Good post.

The part I quoted is especially true.

Those that depended on Paul to fix it are just as fickle and timid as any sheep. First of all, the problems weren't created by one man, and they will not be fixed by one man. Second of all, I can see this as a possible operation to affect morale of those that stubbornly remain a part of the system, thinking it can be somehow fixed (or restored). When morale is affected, people don't suddenly say "the whole system is corrupt" and look for an alternative system, they give up on it all. It's hard to motivate the disillusioned.

Paul, and his supporters are just as plugged into the corrupt system as any other politician and that politicians supporters.

IMO the only way to fix it is to view it from the outside looking in, destroy it, and evolve into another system. Even if it could be fixed, history would repeat itself. But imo people aren't ready to evolve in the numbers needed. Not yet anyway.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-06-08   14:44:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: PSUSA2 (#28)

IMO the only way to fix it is to view it from the outside looking in, destroy it, and evolve into another system. Even if it could be fixed, history would repeat itself. But imo people aren't ready to evolve in the numbers needed. Not yet anyway.

Most rational people would rather vote for a man who they believe will change the system back to what it was SUPPOSED to be, rather than wage open warfare against their own countrymen, and unleashing unimaginable death and destruction which most likely WILL touch their own families and homes.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-08   15:16:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker (#32)

Most rational people

If they're the rational ones, I'm glad I'm nuttier than a fruitcake.

Being rational doesn't mean wishing for a easy, painless cure, It means seeing what's ahead in the real world. What's ahead is pain for those still holding on to their precious little systems. They either wake the fuck up or suffer the consequences.

I think they'll suffer though. NOt too many want to give up their little political / religious delusions. That would be too painful...

most don't have the balls to wake up. They think they'll end up with nothing if they give up the current systems. But what do they have now, WITH their current systems? Slavery.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-06-08   16:09:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: PSUSA2 (#43)

In the American Revolution, the enemy's home was across an ocean, and they had to sail across that ocean on wooden ships to get here, aside from those who were already here.

Back then, weaponry consisted of muskets, cannons firing steel shot a short distance, and swords.

What do you really think would happen in an allout revolution these days here in the US?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-08   16:12:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FormerLurker (#46)

What do you really think would happen in an allout revolution these days here in the US?

I no longer see a revolution. At least in the shooting sense of the word. I used to think so, but not anymore.

I see the current systems collapsing under their own weight. What they are trying to do is violate natural law. It's like violating gravity. You can overcome gravity for only so long before you crash (I don't see a soft landing, because that implies control, when they have no control).

That's not to say that people won't go batshit insane, but that is not a revolution. That's just chaos. I don't know how people will react. I'm pretty sure I know how the subhumans will react. Deep down, all humans know how the apes will react.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-06-08   16:36:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: PSUSA2 (#50)

That's not to say that people won't go batshit insane, but that is not a revolution. That's just chaos. I don't know how people will react. I'm pretty sure I know how the subhumans will react. Deep down, all humans know how the apes will react.

ALmost there.. what is that old saying? It's a governments job to pretend to fail???

Problem reaction solution. THe choas will beg for order and that order will suck..

titorite  posted on  2012-06-08   16:42:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: titorite (#51)

what is that old saying? It's a governments job to pretend to fail???

That's a new one to me.

But I disagree with that saying.

You're saying "fail". What is their definition of "success"?

Their "job" is to rule. In order to succeed at that, they boxed themselves into a corner. It is their own successes that did it to them, not their failures. They are so screwed.

If we can outlast them, we will have won. And we will outlast them, because to do so requires cooperation, which only we are capable of. Psychopaths do not play well together.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-06-08   17:01:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: PSUSA2 (#54)

What is their definition of "success"?

By their I should think we are speaking of economic / political factions that are our fearless leaders in this shitty nation..Our government yuck. Success to people like that is convincing you, me, and the masses to go along with it all as easily as they can will it. They want us to go along with the play of hard dull work, justice preveils, shop wal mart consumer citizen tax payer.

Kinda like isreal there haveing the egyptions digging their own grave so to does our nations' leaders, corporate whores that they are, lead its own citizens to dig their own graves... both metaphorically and literally.

titorite  posted on  2012-06-08   17:30:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: titorite (#56) (Edited)

They want us to go along with the play of hard dull work, justice preveils, shop wal mart consumer citizen tax payer.

Agreed.

So, how to stop them? Don't go along with them. Don't feed the animals.

People hate what they are forced to do. But they hate the idea of cutting the cords even more. Freedom scares the crap out of most people. That's just one reason why I don't depend on them.

It's not enough to be against the enemy. People have to be FOR something. Anyone that is against what's happening but doesn't create their own alternative is still under their power, because the focus is still only on the psychopaths.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-06-08   18:39:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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