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Title: Federal Law Proves All Delegates Are UNBOUND! All Delegates Must See This!
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=GiEbNncoSG0
Published: Jun 4, 2012
Author: matlarson10
Post Date: 2012-06-08 13:10:45 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Ron Paul, Delegates, Unbound Free Agents, Election Law
Views: 588
Comments: 37

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#1. To: GreyLmist (#0)

Essentially, this is true of federal laws.

However, many states have laws that directly bind delegates to the voters' choices. Some states bind all delegates, some bind only part of the delegates.

In addition, delegates would have to want to spike Romney so bad that they would take Paul who as a former LP candidate against Bush I repels them almost as much as legal heroin (which RP has advocated in a debate this year).

So the point is ridiculous. If Romney suffered some massive scandal (like the discovery he secretly has a harem of 72 virgin Nordic wives), I still doubt the convention would pick Ron Paul as the nominee. It would be Santorum. Or it would be Jeb Bush or Mitch Daniels.

The Paul campaign has made it clear they do not expect to have even half the delegates needed to capture the nomination. Personally, I doubt that he'll have the plurality in five states' delegate counts to have his name placed in nomination on the first round at the convention. The GOP old guard worked hard to deny him two states.

But keep in mind, he qualified on one state in 2008. Had they not cheated him this years, he would have qualified in at least five, maybe seven states. That kind of growth is something to build on, particularly with a far more adept retail politician like Rand Paul taking the core of the Ron Paul movement over after Ron retires.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-08   13:28:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TooConservative (#1)

That kind of growth is something to build on, particularly with a far more adept retail politician like Rand Paul taking the core of the Ron Paul movement over after Ron retires.

BUT, Rand is just another dyed in the wool neocon who just backstabbed his own father along with his supporters. BS, I'll never vote for him, and I suspect there are many who feel the same.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-08   13:42:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: FormerLurker (#2)

BUT, Rand is just another dyed in the wool neocon who just backstabbed his own father along with his supporters.

Ron has never indicated the slightest disappointment with Rand's policy stands. Exactly the opposite.

I'm not sure why you think you get to speak for him. He seems to have made very clear how proud he is of Rand getting elected to Senate and the policies he has advocated.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-08   14:11:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#3)

Last I checked, Rand wasn't openly supporting the indefinite detention of US citizens without charges or trial, nor did he support an attack against a nation who has not threatened or attacked us, nor had he publically fellated Israel to climax.

Now that he has endorsed Mitt Romney, all that has just changed.

I'll be curious to see what ole dad has to say about it...

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-08   14:19:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FormerLurker (#4)

Now that he has endorsed Mitt Romney, all that has just changed.

I don't think it has.

People like to demand that Pol X walk the plank for them.

Beyond that, Rand has many opportunities to challenge or rebuke items he has steadily opposed, even under a Prez Mitt. He has done so repeatedly to Obama and to the GOP elite (McConnell) on a number of issues. Remember the robopen incident over the Patriot Act and Obama being in France? Man, were they pissed. But Rand held the line and didn't flinch. He's done it other times, seems more comfortable with it overall than Tom Coburn is when he does it.

A senator is not a president but he does have considerable power at key junctures if he has the guts to use it. I think Rand does.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-08   14:37:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#5)

I think Rand is just another political stooge who did a few things to make people THINK he was on their side, just to win their approval and get himself elected.

He's no different than Romney, the man he personally endorsed for President.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-08   15:06:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker (#7)

He's no different than Romney, the man he personally endorsed for President.

You can't possibly be serious. Or you don't know much about either one.

Back in reality, the Pauls are now on the sidelines of the 2012 race, Ron retiring and Rand not up until 2016.

But to win anything, you have to play your cards. Of course, if you start pouting and take your cards and go home because some selected hero won't sally forth to tilt at windmills on command, then you can't act too surprised when no one takes you seriously.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-08   15:10:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#8)

But to win anything, you have to play your cards.

One doesn't "win" anything by capitulating to the enemy, especially one who blatently lies and reneges on any promise he ever made to the electorate, while at the same time supporting corrupt corporate honchos.

Whatever cards Rand had are now on the floor, and good for you if you think this is a "wise move" on his part. There are MANY who will NEVER vote for him in the future because of this.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-08   15:21:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)

There are MANY who will NEVER vote for him in the future because of this.

Pardon me if I doubt that you speak for all of them.

4um has a lot of doomsayer types, people with attitudes that guarantee that they will always lose in any battle of political wills.

I've supported Ron Paul since '96. I don't think I'm going to be dictated to by a bunch of kids who have to be reminded to bathe, shave, and get a haircut before they start knocking on doors for the candidate.

And there is quite a whiff of juvenile attitudes among the refusenik element, comparable to the idiot Obama youth vote. I say good riddance. I've seen them come and go before. I'm still here and they are nowhere. Let them go vote for Gary Johnson or whoever, see how far that gets them.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-08   15:28:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#10)

Let them go vote for Gary Johnson or whoever, see how far that gets them.

If liberty is what is most important to you, then who else is worthy of the vote? Not Mitt!

Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 states and he would be the best candidate for Paulies to back as he is most closely aligned to the liberty ideology. Johnson is against all the warring and he knows how to balance a budget. His record of job creation in New Mexico puts Mitt's to shame. What's not to like?

We will not beat the two party fraud by continually buying into that bullshit routine election after election after election. Enough is enough.

abraxas  posted on  2012-06-08   15:33:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: abraxas (#13)

If liberty is what is most important to you, then who else is worthy of the vote? Not Mitt!

Ted Cruz. Kurt Bills.

People seem unable to resist the whole shiny White House fascination.

The Senate and the Court are quite often more powerful.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-08   15:49:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: TooConservative (#14)

I'll vote for the best options, of course. Anything but Harry Reid is my mantra. LOL! But, there is no way in hell I will vote for Obama Lite, even if Ron Paul were his running mate. I discarded him in 2008 and he is even less appealing in 2012.

abraxas  posted on  2012-06-08 15:53:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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