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Title: Why Rand Was Right to Endorse Romney (another point of view)
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERI52UndhE4&feature=youtu.be
Published: Jun 10, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-06-10 11:07:06 by christine
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Views: 1640
Comments: 66

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Very astute analysis.....even if I'm not as confident in Rand as our narrator.

abraxas  posted on  2012-06-10   11:18:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: abraxas, christine (#1)

He offers a shrewd strategic political argument.

Of course, I already totally agreed with him as my posts here indicate.

He is the very well-known SouthernAvenger. And that has kept his 6500 views of this video at 547 Likes and 344 Dislikes.

Anyone else would have had a lot more dislikes. But, unless the Horde just wants to quit and go home and stay home, they'd better listen and think hard about where we go when Ron retires in January.

Hopefully, we'll be watching Kurt Bills and Ted Cruz take the oath as new senators. And Liljenthal of UT.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-10   13:38:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#3) (Edited)

unless the Horde just wants to quit and go home and stay home

"the Horde". You're not a real supporter of Ron Paul's movement, are you? -- no more than his son, Rand. You're both mastodans who seem to view it as something to be compromised, culled, and then co-opted by Neocon RINOs -- much like the so-called "Tea Party" was. Ron Paul isn't the mascot of the "Tea Party". Just ask them. He's the Champion of the Constitution. Like a commenter at the video said: "Ron Paul wasn't looking to his family to carry the torch [My note: as Rand hasn't], he was looking towards us."

Edited for spelling.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-06-10   18:10:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist (#7)

Rand's voting record clearly shows he is no neocon.

It isn't my fault if you are determined to be paranoid.

By all means, please go support someone else.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-10   18:13:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative, GreyLmist (#8)

Rand's voting record clearly shows he is no neocon.

I have liked what Rand has actually done. Prior to this endorsement of Romney, he had exceeded my expectations since taking office. I remember the clip where he gave some DC bureaucrat crap about how his toilet didn't work, blaming it on federal toilet regulations. He also blasted people for not following the Constitution, and he's not controlled by Israel. He's been a very outspoken supporter of Liberty and the Constitution.

But GreyLmist is right. What's the rush to endorse Romney, if indeed that is what he thinks is the right thing to do (!) before Tampa? The only explanation I can fathom is that he is indeed doing it for some political reason that we don't know about. Hopefully it's a good reason, but it's extremely hard to think there could be one. Which pretty much makes it a bad political move since it's alienated a lot of Rand's support base. You just can't going around doing that!!

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-06-10   20:50:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pinguinite (#10)

What's the rush to endorse Romney, if indeed that is what he thinks is the right thing to do (!) before Tampa?

To get it out of the way and let things settle down.

So the RP folk stop fundraising and running events for RP and turn their efforts toward Liberty candidates like Bills in MN and Cruz in TX.

So Ron can get some rest. He's about 77, probably completely exhausted.

Tons of reasons.

If you want the single best political reason, it is because you get the most for your chips by cashing them in and leaving the game in an orderly way. You've built your stake for the next round.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-10   22:12:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#14)

To get it out of the way and let things settle down.

Among Paul supporters, it's had the opposite effect.

So the RP folk stop fundraising and running events for RP and turn their efforts toward Liberty candidates like Bills in MN and Cruz in TX.

I don't buy that. Ron Paul could have simply announced as much. Would have been much cleaner.

So Ron can get some rest. He's about 77, probably completely exhausted.

He has well earned his retirement, but he shouldn't do that until after he crosses the Tampa finish line.

If you want to say he's done it for political reasons just as the vid above explains, then I'll just stand by my prior comments.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-06-10   22:57:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Pinguinite (#15)

I don't buy that. Ron Paul could have simply announced as much. Would have been much cleaner.

I didn't think it needed to be spelled out any plainer than it was.

Ron's career is done. He made it clear. Rand and the other Liberty candidates are our future.

This isn't the time to throw a purist hissy fit.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-11   9:04:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TooConservative (#20)

This isn't the time to throw a purist hissy fit.

No, you're right is isn't. It's simply time to look reality in the face.

Big things are afoot, and O'bomber is about to be politely deposed in favor of the Mormon. Big chunks of the Dem Party are falling off the incumbent's bandwagon and are beginning to move against him.

Plans for the coronation of the challenger are well underway. Constitutionalists, Sons of Liberty, advocates of limited government, what have you are going to get no closer to the levers of power than you'd let your tattoed, pot smokin' nephew near the throttles of your spanking new 60-foot Sea Ray.

Purists are invited to watch the show.

randge  posted on  2012-06-11   9:30:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge (#21)

Constitutionalists, Sons of Liberty, advocates of limited government, what have you are going to get no closer to the levers of power than you'd let your tattoed, pot smokin' nephew near the throttles of your spanking new 60-foot Sea Ray.

I don't agree with this part.

We elect Bills in MN and Cruz in TX and add them to Coburn, DeMint, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee and we have enough for our own Gang Of Six From Hell On Steroids.

You can't elect just one person and expect them to move the world for you. They are not Atlases.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-11   9:53:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TooConservative (#22)

They are not Atlases.

As long as we're contemplating Hellenistic pathos here, let's hope they don't wind up like Laokoon & his sons.

Laocoön warned his fellow Trojans against the wooden horse presented to the city by the Greeks.

randge  posted on  2012-06-11   10:10:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: randge (#23)

Dang, you matched my artsy-fartsy post and raised me.

Of course, I could never post such pics at LP; the Posse would be gulping Sterno by the bucket and propositioning every male on the forum.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-11   10:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TooConservative (#24)

I could never post such pics at LP

Yeah, it's definitely a highbrow crowd here. You can tender a point or disagree with someone here and not have to endure being labeled a dishonorable asshole or a libturd hypocrite. Things are very starchy at christine's house. You hobnobbin' with the best.

randge  posted on  2012-06-11   11:06:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: randge (#25)

Things are very starchy at christine's house. You hobnobbin' with the best.

I recall a few more intemperate moments.

Didn't someone call me, what was that, a "Jewy cunt" here once, along with a few other choice names? They probably don't even remember it now. That I am Gentile and male means my feelings weren't hurt at all.

But discussion here is a lot more polite overall than what LP has sunk to and there is no Posse here constantly trolling about like some juvenile bullies.

LP used to be considerably better moderated but Goldi hardly moderates it at all now. She appears not to read it or post on it for days at a time if you look at her posting history.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-11   11:13:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: TooConservative (#26)

I recall a few more intemperate moments.

This forum is light on the moderation, so you're going to see that kind of slop for sure. The anonymity we get from posting on forums leads participants to use language that, under ordinary circumstances, would cause me to drop my spec's on the lawn and punch the other guy's lights out.

The best policy from my point of view is just not to talk to such folks. That's how you cast your vote for decorum. I'm not a prude, and I can cuss like a pro, but when you let discussion degenerate the way it has over there, you're just talkin' trash & the whole enterprise loses its meaning.

randge  posted on  2012-06-11 11:39:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative, All (#26)

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