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Title: Why Rand Was Right to Endorse Romney (another point of view)
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERI52UndhE4&feature=youtu.be
Published: Jun 10, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-06-10 11:07:06 by christine
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#2. To: christine (#0)

To sum up his analysis, Rand was right to endorse Romney because in order for Rand to get what he wants, he has to play politics. We just have to hope that what he wants is what we want too. Problem is, that's like using the One Ring to Rule Them All to try to do good. If he uses it once, will he use it again and again and again? If this is a good reason to endorse Romney, will there be more "good reasons" to do similar things down the road? Will it ever stop? If it doesn't then Rand will end up just like them. Ron was known as "Dr. No" for the precise reason that he never sold his vote on one bill to gain someone else's on another. He never used The Ring.

I do agree with the pragmatic observation. Ron has repeatedly demonstrated a pragmatic approach to his actions, and I think that's why he's held his Congressional seat for so long and I don't take issue with that, and maybe this is part of what we're seeing. Maybe Rand knows what he's doing. Maybe we'll see.

I didn't know that Ron essentially conceded the R race prior to the endorsement which is/was perhaps my biggest beef. So maybe that's explained, at least.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-06-10   13:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#2)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-06-10   21:32:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eric Stratton, Pinguinite (#11)

Problem is, he's now playing their game, and inherently he's already screwed himself.

He sure didn't look like he was playing their game to me when he was spiking the Patriot Act alone and forcing them into robopen madness.

But this puny meaningless endorsement now means everything to you?

I can tell none of you have ever been in a political office or elected board and had to hold the line against the majority and its statist media parrots. Let me just say that it is not as easy as you seem to think.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-11   9:02:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TooConservative, All (#19)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-06-11   14:21:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Eric Stratton, randge (#33)

Either way, we still have 11 weeks to find out what the "genius" behind the move was.

What if the Pauls extracted promises of major financial and party support for Cruz in Texas and for Bills in MN?

Would that be worth it?

I'm just posing an example. That wouldn't involve a convention speech or the party platform. Just two superb Ron Paul Republicans.

Romney and the RNC wouldn't even have to do it themselves. They could arrange for someone else to supply the funds.

I'm just saying that something like that would be worth the trade.

In any event, Rand's endorsement is necessary. And I'm more than a little tired of all the wannabe's whining about something so meaningless.

IMO, every last Ron Paul supporter in the country should pledge to support Romney. Then just vote however they feel like. It would be the best way to maximize our impact within the party and prepare for the 2014/2016 cycle.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-11   15:52:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TooConservative (#37)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-06-11   16:04:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Eric Stratton, TooConservative (#39)

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#44. To: wudidiz (#40)

But could Nietzsche put a .30-06 bullet through the ear of that dumb ass standing on the rocks thinking profound thoughts as he stares at the Big Water?

Then what good is Nietzsche anyway?

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-11   17:35:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: TooConservative (#44)

"No government nowadays admits that it maintains an army so as to satisfy it's occasional thirst for conquest. The army is supposed to be for defense, that morality which sanctions self protection is called upon to be it's advocate. This is how all states now confront one another. They presuppose an evil disposition in their neighbor and a benevolent disposition in themselves. This presupposition, however, is a piece of inhumanity as bad as, if not worse than, a war would be. The doctrine of the army as a means of self-defense must be renounced just as completely as the thirst for conquest. And perhaps there will come a great day on which a nation distinguished for wars and victories and for the highest development of military discipline and thinking, and accustomed to making the heaviest sacrifices on behalf of these things, will cry of its own free will: "We shall shatter the sword" - and demolish its entire military machine down to its last foundations. To disarm while being the best armed, out of an elevation of sensibility - that is the means to real peace. Better to perish than to hate and fear, and twofold better to perish than to make oneself hated and feared - this must one day become the supreme maxim of every individual state!"

- Friedrich Nietzsche - Human, All Too Human, A Book for Free Spirits, 1878.

(If you actually read Nietzsche, you find much that does not square with the common one-dimensional caricature of him.)

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