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Title: The Rand Paul Fiasco with Webster Tarpley
Source: PrisonPlanetTV
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4MahRKtM5s&feature=player_embedded
Published: Jun 12, 2012
Author: PrisonPlanetTV
Post Date: 2012-06-12 17:43:49 by randge
Keywords: Webster, Tarpley, Paul debacle
Views: 448
Comments: 29

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The Paulists have failed us. That party is over. They are shoveling up the confetti as we speak. Now is the time to open up our eyes to new dimensions and perspectives and follow fresh ideas wherever they may lead.

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#5. To: randge, 4um (#0)

open up our eyes to new dimensions and perspectives and follow fresh ideas wherever they may lead

Tarpley offers no fresh ideas.

Let me ask you this: If the other dupes who represent the people were voting for no tax increases like Ron Paul consistently voted during his tenure, would we have the tyranny, the wars, and the massive debt that we have now?

No, we would not.

Tarpley is grossly exaggerating the "Brutal Savage Austerity" aspect of cutting this warmongering, empire striving, freedom robbing government down to size. He never even bothers to discuss the massive debt that is to be passed onto future generations after he is long gone and enjoyed his Social Security and Medicare benefits.

Tarpley ignores that the more taxes that are paid the more irresponsibly the money is spent. The more we the people subsidize what we deplore with every dime that is extorted from us. We get more waste and an ever larger central government that marches toward tyranny.

Tarpley advises turning away from Reps and Dems while back biting Libertarians, and the Libertarian Party is the ONLY party alternative that is on the ballot in all fifty states. The candidate on that ticket has PROVEN that he can balance a budget and get a fiscal house in order without the death of even one citizen in his state. Johnson also placed term limits on himself as promised.

Tarpley's endless Ron Paul ranting without ever mentioning his principled stance for liberty or freedom and against excessive taxation speak volumes to me. And Tarpley never gets to the heart of the matter. It is the excessive taxation and the endless money pit given to the central government that has given this nation what Tarpley claims to despise: the two party fraud.

I'd like to give more liberty and less taxation a try, not continue to buy into the farce that the government will save us all. Tarpley loves to talk about the New Deal and the good it did while ignoring that every person in this nation under 45 who has been forced to pay into the Social Security system will never see a dime of it! Let's be honest, there will likely be no Medicare or Medicaid either. All that will be left is the mountain of debt that Tarpley likes to ignore.

That's my two cents. Tarpley isn't a leader that I would follow, although I often enjoy his analysis on various topics.

abraxas  posted on  2012-06-12   20:53:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: abraxas (#5)

I think corruption ruins all governments regardless of their fundamentals.

Tarpley sounds a lot like the LaRouche people and they are definitely big FDR fans.

The Gold standard alone would leave the poor and most of the middle-class where they are currently situated without much opportunity for increasing their individual wealth.

I supported Ron Paul in 2008 even though I didn't support the system itself. The way he dropped out in 2008 was enough for me to determine that he wasn't the fighter or firebrand necessary to unite enough people also willing to fight hard enough to overcome the tyranny of the current political machinery.

I won't go so far as to call RP a shill but I will say that he owed it to his supporters to maintain his campaign through Tampa. I would also suggest that some kind of deal was cut to benefit Rand Paul's future before he capitulated on Hannity's Neo-Con TV program.

Personally, I think it's going to take a civil war or riots in the street to achieve some respect from the political perps. At this time both parties are raping their own constituents.

I hope Adam Kokesh (sp) stirs up a riot in Tampa. I mean a very physical confrontation with the GOP hacks that have had their day in the sun and need to go bye-bye.

noone222  posted on  2012-06-12   21:21:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: noone222 (#9)

I supported Ron Paul in 2008 even though I didn't support the system itself. The way he dropped out in 2008 was enough for me to determine that he wasn't the fighter or firebrand necessary to unite enough people also willing to fight hard enough to overcome the tyranny of the current political machinery.

I won't go so far as to call RP a shill but I will say that he owed it to his supporters to maintain his campaign through Tampa. I would also suggest that some kind of deal was cut to benefit Rand Paul's future before he capitulated on Hannity's Neo-Con TV program.

Personally, I think it's going to take a civil war or riots in the street to achieve some respect from the political perps. At this time both parties are raping their own constituents.

I still don't support the system and I'm not certain he wouldn't have done better with a third party rather than trying to reform the GOP, which is too corrupt to salvage, IMHO.

How could he have "dropped out" in a better way? Is there a good way? He didn't have the money to keep running and there does come a time when you have to cut your losses. I know many people were butt hurt that he still had some campaign funds that he didn't blow on advertising that wasn't going to bring him any closer to the goal, but I thought Campaign for Liberty was a good use for those funds.

Ron Paul is just one little old man, I thought he put up a hell of a fight for his age and opposition amid crushing ridicule. Do you recall how all those blowhards were laughing at him during the debates? He didn't back down. He stood his ground. As for uniting, he did unite a good many people and get them to do some critical thinking. For this, I am grateful.

Yeah, I have some questions about campaign suspension prior to Tampa as well. Rand's choice for endorsement as well as his venue left much to be desired. Again, I'm left with questions but I have yet to find those answers.

Actually, I think they are creating the atmosphere for civil war an riots as we speak. Setting up all the legislative ground work to haul all the people who disagree into custody, heck even kill them if the POTUS desires, snoop on every living soul in this nation, all while robbing us blind. And yet, the people remain divided as ever because they still don't see the forest for the trees. Sitting ducks so to speak. Always waiting for that fighter, that uniter to save the day.....when we are the savior we are looking for and nobody else is going to do it for us.

abraxas  posted on  2012-06-12   22:35:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#29. To: abraxas (#16)

As for uniting, he did unite a good many people and get them to do some critical thinking. For this, I am grateful.

I appreciate his efforts at organizing the youth too.

I believe he needed to keep his promise to campaign all the way to Tampa. The way he dropped out makes it harder for those that supported him to feel positive about going to Tampa, where I think there should be a riot and not a bunch of well behaved, cowed, and beaten lovers of freedom.

The people Ron is asking his supporters to behave for have pulled every rotten trick in the book on Ron Paul and those supporters of Ron's that were willing to call themselves republicans "if" the republicans would simply adhere to their own platform of smaller government owe them a black-eye.

Ron Paul's followers aren't asking too much of the party. Both parties have lied viciously to their constituents for decades. It's not time to be passive and "all nice" at the RNC Convention in Tampa - it's time to weed out the upper crust of elite sons of ugly bitches and send them packing with an ass-burn.

I watched some of the debates and read about the primaries and caucuses - Ron Paul was ill treated and sneered at by the so-called establishment. He's a senior statesman and there's no way in hell he deserved the treatment he got from asshats like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh or those CNN pukes that ignored him. All of that being said, it's time for the American people to evaluate the corruption level in D.C. (and at the FEDERAL RESERVE MAFIOSO) and actually do something about it besides vote for the lesser of two equally sinister evils.

In the end, Ron Paul has some responsibility to his loyal supporters despite his age. If my kid came out endorsing a globalist like Romney, I'd disown him.

noone222  posted on  2012-06-14 14:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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