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Title: The Rand Paul Fiasco with Webster Tarpley
Source: PrisonPlanetTV
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4MahRKtM5s&feature=player_embedded
Published: Jun 12, 2012
Author: PrisonPlanetTV
Post Date: 2012-06-12 17:43:49 by randge
Keywords: Webster, Tarpley, Paul debacle
Views: 460
Comments: 29

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The Paulists have failed us. That party is over. They are shoveling up the confetti as we speak. Now is the time to open up our eyes to new dimensions and perspectives and follow fresh ideas wherever they may lead.

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#5. To: randge, 4um (#0)

open up our eyes to new dimensions and perspectives and follow fresh ideas wherever they may lead

Tarpley offers no fresh ideas.

Let me ask you this: If the other dupes who represent the people were voting for no tax increases like Ron Paul consistently voted during his tenure, would we have the tyranny, the wars, and the massive debt that we have now?

No, we would not.

Tarpley is grossly exaggerating the "Brutal Savage Austerity" aspect of cutting this warmongering, empire striving, freedom robbing government down to size. He never even bothers to discuss the massive debt that is to be passed onto future generations after he is long gone and enjoyed his Social Security and Medicare benefits.

Tarpley ignores that the more taxes that are paid the more irresponsibly the money is spent. The more we the people subsidize what we deplore with every dime that is extorted from us. We get more waste and an ever larger central government that marches toward tyranny.

Tarpley advises turning away from Reps and Dems while back biting Libertarians, and the Libertarian Party is the ONLY party alternative that is on the ballot in all fifty states. The candidate on that ticket has PROVEN that he can balance a budget and get a fiscal house in order without the death of even one citizen in his state. Johnson also placed term limits on himself as promised.

Tarpley's endless Ron Paul ranting without ever mentioning his principled stance for liberty or freedom and against excessive taxation speak volumes to me. And Tarpley never gets to the heart of the matter. It is the excessive taxation and the endless money pit given to the central government that has given this nation what Tarpley claims to despise: the two party fraud.

I'd like to give more liberty and less taxation a try, not continue to buy into the farce that the government will save us all. Tarpley loves to talk about the New Deal and the good it did while ignoring that every person in this nation under 45 who has been forced to pay into the Social Security system will never see a dime of it! Let's be honest, there will likely be no Medicare or Medicaid either. All that will be left is the mountain of debt that Tarpley likes to ignore.

That's my two cents. Tarpley isn't a leader that I would follow, although I often enjoy his analysis on various topics.

abraxas  posted on  2012-06-12   20:53:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: abraxas (#5)

Tarpley loves to talk about the New Deal and the good it did while ignoring that every person in this nation under 45 who has been forced to pay into the Social Security system will never see a dime of it! Let's be honest, there will likely be no Medicare or Medicaid either. All that will be left is the mountain of debt that Tarpley likes to ignore.

you nailed him, girl.

christine  posted on  2012-06-12   21:16:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#8)

Let's be honest, there will likely be no Medicare or Medicaid either. All that will be left is the mountain of debt that Tarpley likes to ignore.

you nailed him, girl.

A wiseacre would ask the question, WILL YOU TAKE THE SS, MEDICARE etc etc when the time arrives.

I have many friends that whined over every penny that went into SS, that was stolen by the government, but when they turned 65, guess what, they lined right up with their hand out. Many of them, like me, would be destitute and homeless were it not for medicare, of course we could have died years ago.

Be rugged, stand on ones own feet, take no "hand outs" on and on, heard and seen it all but when trouble arises, there they are in line.

Germany started SS over a hundred years ago, still going strong, of course the money was not stolen by politicians to fight wars.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-12   23:11:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: Cynicom (#18)

WILL YOU TAKE THE SS, MEDICARE etc e

The point is that there will be nothing left to take for people 45 and under in this nation.

abraxas  posted on  2012-06-12 23:50:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#18)

Germany started SS over a hundred years ago, still going strong, of course the money was not stolen by politicians to fight wars.

Corruption and tolerance of it is the real problem with every area of government in the U.S. Allowing the criminal to award himself immunity from prosecution has never been a grand idea !

The SS System was portrayed as an old age and wellness trust account that one paid into and could expect a return upon meeting the requirements stated in the initial application. Turns out this is a complete falsehood and SS is simply another tax that gets dumped into the general fund. The general fund gets tapped into by FEDS to such a degree that there's actually no money there, there's no individual account and the courts have ruled that the SS Administration isn't obligated to fulfill what most believed was an entitlement payment.

What SS actually did was to enable the States and those becoming members of the system to waive their sovereign rights in a free republic in lieu of becoming subjects of FEDERAL authority. Most people thought they had made a decision more akin to an insurance arrangement never imagining they'd forfeited their common law status. The SSN was "never" to be utilized as I.D. and stated the same on its face.

In truth, the people should be able to make the SS deal privately with a private company and without the government dragging them into additional obligatory conditions. An example of this would be the 50 State mandate that one supply a (FEDERAL) SS Number in order to obtain a State driver license. The FEDERAL Government is a foreign Sovereign from the several States as much as France is foreign to Spain. France wouldn't require its citizens to go to Spain and obtain a number so they could acquire a French driver license, nor should Texas require a Texan to enter the FEDERAL ZONE to obtain a State issued license.

The 14th Amendment and other programs like the later enactment of Social Security were designed to supply the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT with "subjects" (taxpaying citizens) that didn't exist at all (excepting D.C. residents and residents within Territories owned by the United States (INC.) prior to the war of Northern Aggression and subsequent 14th Amendment. Freed negroes became the majority of federal citizens upon passage of the 14th Amendment which was allegedly it original purpose. (Personally, I think the 14th Amendment was stealth enslavement of the entire country).

My personal opinion is that those paying into the program should have every expectation of receiving the benefits without the SS Administration or the FEDS altering the program or the obligations of the beneficiaries. The courts have ruled that the SS payment is a "GRATUITY" - Not an Entitlement.

The world spun on its axis for a billion years without Social Security it's just since 1935 that it has become "critical" to the health of the nation and its people.

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