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Title: Why Rand Paul was wrong to endorse Mitt Romney & Jack Hunter is a statist (Adam Kokesh)
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Published: Jun 13, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-06-13 16:10:24 by christine
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#1. To: christine (#0)
Adam is disgraceful. I regret the modest help I gave his campaign. Never again. Even after he made himself radioactive by acting out at the McStain convention, the Pauls supported his campaign and endorsed him, even while Rand was running. They didn't have to help such a longshot who had damaged himself so badly. It was, after all, his own fault that his discharge status was downgraded. He is dead to me.
what do you mean about his discharge status was downgraded?
What's your problem TC? Name me one thing Adam said that wasn't 100% accurate and right on target. Did he pop your little Mitt Romney 2012 balloon? And what's this BS you're selling about Adam's discharge? lol.....did you watch to the end? The same guy who was claiming that the Mittins endorsement is the best way to go is stating in an earlier recorder that "If Mitt Romney is the nominee, Conservatives will have to find a new party." He sure changed his tune on that, but that last line is the truth of it. I don't get how Adam is disgraceful. Please expand on this line of thinking. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
oh FUCK YOU. you've been dead as a doornail to many of us long before Randacious Paul ever was. what a crock of shit this whole thing is. you nor Randacious will find comfort here as we move forward. well deserved i will add. I would like to know that too. Adam Kokesh is, in my mind anyway, one of the bright lights of the freedom movement. Like Ron in many ways but a better speaker. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
At 7:20 of his video, Why Rand Was Right to Endorse Romney (4um video here), he speaks supportively of his friend, Austin Peteresen, who scorns those of us who object to Rand's endorsement of Romney. Here's an example of Austin Peteresen's earlier manuevering to lead Ron Paul's supporters in his self-ordained steerage direction: Former Freedom Watch Producer, Austin Petersen -- might be that he's behind the cancelation of Freedom Watch. The R3VOLution Strikes Back! Senator Napolitano!: Oh the lectures that the Judge can give those Senators! And talk about a man who can FILIBUSTER and STALL THE SENATE!!!! Edited format for readability. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
good catch!
He wore a cut-down version of military uniform to his anti-Iraq protests. He had been warned about political events while wearing the uniform. He was brought up on charges, expelled from the Individual Ready Reserve, and his honorable discharge was revoked and the panel recommended he be given a "general discharge" (keeps vet benefits) or a "dishonorable discharge" (no benefits). I think they finally settled on "general discharge". Employers who hire a lot of vets will think twice about hiring him with that on his record. It hurt his run for Congress too. Yet Ron and Rand stuck with him, funded him. And this is how he pays them back. Nice.
He threw it away with carelessness. Now he dances with Lefties at national monuments to get arrested. I think his gig at Russia Today ended badly too. He's flamed out. Soon his only path will be as a Lefty tool, like John Kerry was. The problem is that Kokesh's discharge and antics will work against him in a way that it didn't against Kerry.
You're going nowhere.
Video from 2007 showing the cut-down uniforms Kokesh and the others wore.
All soldiers should be protesting the useless, unnecessary waste of lives, especially the lives of the innocent. And of course the other costs of all these wars which Congress has never declared would bankrupt any nation.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
nice to see you! hope youre having a good summer.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
rand paul asked about iran sanctions - he says that economic sanctions are not an act of war, but rather are intended to prevent war. and asked about bilderberg, to which he replies 'no comment'. one thought about iran sanctions intended to prevent war. this means that rand thinks that without sanctions, there will be a war. for what reason? nukes? which iran has none, so why would we need sanctions and why would there be war? the guy is a loon and his apologists, of which i think there are few, should wake up. also, note that he surrily demands of the questioner who are you with. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
some good comments about rand and ron at infowars. i love it. :-) http://www.infowars.com/rand-paul-confronted-on- bilderberg-no-comment-on-logan-act-violations/ ========================================================== MrM says: “I would rather my enemy’s sword pierce my heart then my friend’s dagger stab me in the back.” Faustus Bill O Rights says: Putting an amendment on a sanction bill that says, ‘this is not an act of war’, fits right into the Libya bombings as a humanitarian ‘kinetic military action’. Orwellian NewSpeak bullshit. Sanctions are economic war actions by definition. Rand is a sellout and Ron was disengenuous with his supporters, telling them that they would win with delegate count and pandering for more dollars, not calling voter fraud in Maine, etc. The beltway is so corrupt that it’s impossible to hold office and not get dirty. It’s a meatgrinder. captain obvious says: screw the pauls. 4 years ago: “thanks for the moneybombs truthers, 911 wasnt an inside job, I’m off to write a book, seeya!” this time: no fight against blatant vote fraud in so many states, “ooh lets go for delegates”, then he lets his son do the backstab sabotage crap. how many millions have these JACKASSES raked us for?!! "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Last time some of it was mine, BUT NOT THIS TIME. Olde adage here in the hills, "NEVER GET BITTEN BY THE SAME POLITICIAN TWICE".
Good. This is the perfect time to dump all the Truthy/Birthy losers that have tried to latch onto the Paul campaigns to use them for their own recruiting and to build their own profile. Good riddance to Alex Jones and the born-losers of PrisonPlanet.
actually, those were the people who were the first and main donors to paul's campaign, he said so himself on Jones show., and, Rand admits that he learns from the alex jones show. I listened to both rands interviews (dailypaul and schiff). he did indeed sound reasonable, but upon analysis, in the end a sellout is a sellout. Sugar coating it will not help. he lost a lot of support by doing what he did. i'd garner that the grass root support for senator paul is now gone. he will probably cozy up to some corporation or zionist AIPAC group who will help fund his feeble reelection attempt in 3 years. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Rand Paul is being featured as a special guest editorialist on CNN.com. isnt that special? Don't let drones invade our privacy "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
4.5 years. In 2016. For a senator in office for 1.5 years, he's done more than the rest combined. He is not lazy or shy.
And why didn't it work so against Kerry? Do you suppose Kokesh should have dressed like a different branch of service for his demonstration?; like Navyman Kerry did when impersonating a soldier -- even before Congress -- while accusing our Military of being war criminals, among his other protest antics. Edited for italic and spacing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
My favorite part of Kerry's antics was when he threw his medals at the Pentagon in protest with the cameras televising it. Except he threw someone else's medals (probably replicas or stuff he bought at a pawn shop). He still proudly displays his own medals and the media never asks him how he still has them even though they saw him hurl them forty years ago at Da Evil Pentagon. Kokesh's street theater was poorly thought out and executed. Had he waited a few more months, they couldn't have touched him. He should have known better. After all, unlike Kerry, he had no powerful sponsors to pull strings and cover his back.
Thanks. Reportedly, Austin Petersen comes from a town named Peculiar. I think it's peculiar, too, that he claims not to know why Freedom Watch was cancelled. I'm not convinced that he doesn't. Why Was Freedom Watch [the third highest rated show on the network] Cancelled? The Producer [Austin Petersen] Answers -- "I don't know why they cancelled us." Published on May 24, 2012 by LibertyChat Edited for spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Olde adage here in the hills, "NEVER GET BITTEN BY THE SAME POLITICIAN TWICE". Then there's "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"... Except he threw someone else's medals (probably replicas or stuff he bought at a pawn shop). He still proudly displays his own medals and the media never asks him how he still has them even though they saw him hurl them forty years ago at Da Evil Pentagon. Meet the Press should have asked him why he was going around impersonating a decorated soldier. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I think Kerry was still a Naval Reserve while actively protesting the war in his soldier-impersonation costume. Seems he likely had some big brass at the Pentagon covering for him too. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
i said 3 years because he will not begin his re-election campaign in 4.5 years. 4.5 years from today is December 2016. The general election is November 2016. if his 2nd term were to begins jan. 2017, he would run again in early 2016 for perhaps a march 2016 primary. So if he's smart, (especially considering he's alienated most of the base which put him into office,) he would start in 3 years. MAYBE 3.5. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Along with Teddy the Swimmer and some Lefties who saw the utility of a decorated volunteer vet carrying water for their cause. They played it to the hilt.
Well, the campaign never ends, you know. But I just had lunch and I'm not in a mood to nitpick.
you're a tool. stay far from freedom and liberty lovers because you're an easy chameleon to spot. and by your own posting history on ElPee and here you would never be indicted for the crime of supporting the Constitution, freedom and liberty. i personally have long held that you indeed are a Zio and see no difference since i last had to analyze your incessant bullshit...
you are the Bagger Brigade in the Tea Party...
The troubled child has returned ! Where ya been, bro ? "The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
layin' low, lovin my family, lovin life...final preps. fishing. cross country. cross borders. cross continents. but i keep my eye on things and stay high alert. lots of minor bullshit but that's the world...good to see you Doug. miss you all lots. but don't miss the PsyOppers and idealogical aholes. fíng Traitors.
You're an idiot.
Good to see you too ! Sounds like life is being good to ya and your family - wishing you and yours all of the best !
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
Somehow I don't think they miss you either. ;-) They just hate being named for what they are - lowlife scumbags who would whore their mother out for a nickel.
#2. To: TooConservative (#1)
#3. To: TooConservative (#1)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#4. To: TooConservative (#1)
Adam is disgraceful.
#5. To: TooConservative (#1)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#6. To: abraxas (#4)
I don't get how Adam is disgraceful. Please expand on this line of thinking.
#7. To: christine, All (#0)
(Edited)
Jack Hunter is a statist
Former Freedom Watch Producer Austin Petersen Slams Ron Paul’s National Campaign, Offers his Leadership for 2016, Posted on May 15, 2012: "Freaking amateurs man.” ... "Calling all libertarians who want 2016 to be all-pro. No amateurs. I’ll be rallying the troops from here."
#8. To: All (#7)
Austin Petersen
Petersen built Judge Napolitano's social networks and manages them [i.e. Facebook...] boasting over 200,000 fans and millions of clicks a month.
#9. To: GreyLmist (#7)
#10. To: christine (#2)
what do you mean about his discharge status was downgraded?
#11. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
I would like to know that too. Adam Kokesh is, in my mind anyway, one of the bright lights of the freedom movement. Like Ron in many ways but a better speaker.
#12. To: Rotara (#5)
you nor Randacious will find comfort here as we move forward. well deserved i will add.
#13. To: All (#12)
#14. To: TooConservative (#10)
#15. To: Rotara (#5)
#16. To: christine (#0)
#17. To: All, christine, jethro tull (#16)
#18. To: Artisan (#17)
how many millions have these JACKASSES raked us for?!!
#19. To: Artisan (#17)
some good comments about rand and ron at infowars. i love it. :-)
#20. To: TooConservative (#19)
#21. To: All (#16)
By Rand Paul, Special to CNN
updated 8:13 AM EDT, Thu June 14, 2012
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/14/opinion/rand-paul- drones/index.html
#22. To: Artisan (#20)
reelection attempt in 3 years.
#23. To: TooConservative (#11)
(Edited)
Kokesh's discharge and antics will work against him in a way that it didn't against Kerry.
#24. To: GreyLmist (#23)
And why didn't it work so against Kerry? Do you suppose Kokesh should have dressed like a different branch of service for his demonstration?; like Navyman Kerry did when impersonating a soldier -- even before Congress -- while accusing our Military of being war criminals, among his other protest antics.
#25. To: christine (#9)
(Edited)
good catch!
#26. To: Cynicom (#18)
Last time some of it was mine, BUT NOT THIS TIME.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#27. To: TooConservative (#24)
My favorite part of Kerry's antics was when he threw his medals at the Pentagon in protest with the cameras televising it.
#28. To: TooConservative (#24)
Kokesh's street theater was poorly thought out and executed. Had he waited a few more months, they couldn't have touched him. He should have known better. After all, unlike Kerry, he had no powerful sponsors to pull strings and cover his back.
#29. To: TooConservative (#22)
4.5 years. In 2016
#30. To: GreyLmist (#28)
Seems he likely had some big brass at the Pentagon covering for him too.
#31. To: Artisan (#29)
i said 3 years because he will not begin his re-election campaign in 4.5 years. 4.5 years from today is December 2016. The general election is November 2016.
#32. To: TooConservative (#12)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#33. To: TooConservative (#31)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#34. To: Rotara (#33)
you are the Bagger Brigade in the Tea Party...
#35. To: noone222 (#34)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#36. To: Rotara (#32)
#37. To: Rotara (#35)
#38. To: Rotara (#35)
... don't miss the PsyOppers and idealogical aholes. fíng Traitors.
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