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Title: Rand Paul claims violence/death threats made against him by liberty advocates - Has anyone been charged?
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URL Source: http://libertyfight.com/2012/rand_p ... _supporters_not_NWO_elite.html
Published: Jun 14, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-06-14 17:26:43 by Artisan
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Rand Paul threatened by Ron Paul supporters, not by the "new world order elite"?


Freshman Senator claims threats of violence and death were made against him by some in liberty movement - Has anyone been charged? If not, why not?

Since Senator Rand Paul's endorsement of Mitt Romney for president, many articles on the internet have theorized that Rand Paul somehow acted under duress and only made the endorsement because he was threatened by shady powerful elements of the 'unseen elite'. [See here and

here.]

However, Paul actually states the opposite; that he was threatened after the endorsement by those within the liberty movement.

Paul, 49, announced on two different radio shows that he has received death threats and threats of violence by angry people as a result of his Mitt Romney endorsement. He downplayed the Romney endorsement as a political decision and fulfillment of his own campaign promise to endorse the future GOP nominee.

On a recent 2 hour Peter Schiff radio show, Schiff had Paul on for approximately 18 minutes. They discussed the liberty movements reaction to Rand's support of Romney, with Schiff opining "the fact that anybody would turn on you is absolutely ridiculous." Schiff said that he would support a Romney-Paul ticket if Rand picked as VP.

At the 1 Hour 12 minute mark, Paul explained how his father worked well with others who in many respects were ideological opposites, and that the elder Paul was "not confrontational, not in your face, not yelling and screaming at people on either side; it's interesting when we see some of the hate or even some of the violence on the internet directed towards me right now, that isn't the kind of personality or anything that my father would approve of."

Soon after the next commercial, Paul abruptly exited the program. Schiff told Rand "I understand you gotta run", and bid him farewell; later remarking "Yeah Rand had to leave. Not sure what he's doing, but..."

Before leaving, however, Rand remarked that he has a "great deal of respect" for Senator John McCain, and repeated the official line that McCain was "tortured for seven years" in a Vietnamese prison.

In the DailyPaulRadio interview with Kurt Wallace, Senator Paul expressed that he doesn't appreciate being judged unfairly because of the Romney endorsement.

[12] "I don't go around calling people names and I don't go around insulting folks ,and to tell you the truth is that what a lot of people don't realize is, it's not my father's style either. You don't see him going around, you know, a lot of the ranting and raving that goes on by the anonymous internet [12:17] you dont see my dad going around calling people names..."

"...I would think that good friends, within the liberty movement, disagree on issues. but [13:51] the problem I have is the vitriol the and anger of people who think because you disagree on a couple issues..."

Paul then referenced "irate liberty folks" and asked people to "judge me on my voting record".

Paul then says that death threats were made against him:

[16:45]"And when you disagree disagree honestly. But I think really what hasn't been good, has been you know people making death threats, people uh, advising violence, publicizing people's address on the internet, you know there are some things that are kind of worrisome about this, and I think and hope that people will listen and uh, react responsibly."

Former Fox host Glenn Beck claimed the same thing during the 2008 presidential election. During an interview with Ron Paul himself, Beck alleged that Paul supporters and 9/11 truthers had made death threats against him. No one was ever charged in that instance either.

An internet search for the term arrested for threats on the internet yields nearly 11 million results. Why is it, then, that whenever a liberty adovcate or Ron Paul supporter allegedly threatens someones life, are no indictments issued, arrests made or trials held?? Perhaps it is because these claims of 'death threats' and 'violence' are completely bogus.

In addition to his two recent radio interviews, Rand Paul was approached at an event and asked about the Romney endorsement, giving the same answers in addition to defending sanctions against Iran. Paul characted Iran sanctions as a way to prevent war, then said "No comment" when asked about the Bilderberg group.

However, before becoming Senator, Paul had quite the unorthodox opinion about Bilderberg, adding that he learns about them from radio host Alex Jones.

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#1. To: All, christine, lod, eric stratton, jethro tull, randge, farmfriend, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#0)

rand paul whines to glenn beck about violent INTERNET EXTREMISTS! bwahhahaha! starting minute 3 PRICELESS!!! :-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-06-14   18:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0)

First prerequisite of voting.....BELIEVE EVERYTHING WRITTEN OR SPOKEN BY A POLITICIAN.

Eighty million non voting.. AND GROWING.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-14   18:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#0)

good to see you Martin. all's well that ends well...but those stories get fewer and farther between each day !

Randacious Paul is a fucking stooly turncoat pos Traitor afaic.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2012-06-14   18:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#0)

Before leaving, however, Rand remarked that he has a "great deal of respect" for Senator John McCain

He has a great deal of respect for a traitor? Damn! Hard to imagine that a child of Ron's would have respect for someone like McCain who would use the Constitution for a doormat. I am very disappointed in Rand right now.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-14   19:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: James Deffenbach (#4)

hey Pal ! long time out of touch. everything cope there ?? !!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2012-06-14   19:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#5)

do you recall our last private conversation ???

by the way, how are you my dear ?

xoxo


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2012-06-14   19:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#0)

It wouldn't surprise me if some Paulites made death threats.

It also wouldn't surprise me if some people claiming to be Paulites made death threats.

Our white sons are sent to war against non-whites who have done us no harm, and this is not called crime;
at home, non-white criminals prey upon our wives and daughters and this is not called war.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-06-14   19:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#2)

Eighty million non voting.. AND GROWING.

I'm not sure why you would say that, other than that you merely wish to believe it is true. It's not as though the facts are hard to find.

Can you offer any explanation for these comprehensive voting results since 1824?

The opposite conclusion is warranted. Since 1996 with ~50% turnout, voter participation has grown steadily. Unemployed people have a lot of time to go vote and a lot to be angry about.

2012 could eclipse the 1960 records and show an increase to the level last seen in 1904-1908.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-14   19:14:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#0)

It's all theatre !

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-06-14   19:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-06-14   19:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

You know you've made your mark when they begin to seriously co-opt you.

The liberty movement has inflicted the pub establishment with some major welts.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-14   21:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-06-14   22:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rotara (#5)

Doing ok for an old man I guess. Things good with you?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-15   10:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: James Deffenbach (#4)

He has a great deal of respect for a traitor?

McCain is a traitor alright. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and so is Obummer. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-06-20   17:00:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rotara (#3)

Paul is a fucking stooly turncoat

I also hear he is a Mason.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-06-25   18:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)

I also hear he is a Mason.

God save the Fucking Queen ! /thicksarc


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2012-06-26   4:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

LOL !!! spot on !!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2012-06-26   4:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#12)

Those welts will get larger.

But so will the wounds on the libertarian movement.

how can it REALLY get worse once you've surrendered ? think seriously my Friend b4 responding...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2012-06-26   5:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rotara (#18)

how can it REALLY get worse once you've surrendered ?

It can get loads worse.

You can be taken prisoner.

You can be taken to a prison camp.

You can be made to kneel before the grave that you've dug for yourself.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-26   5:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rotara (#18)

how can it REALLY get worse once you've surrendered ? think seriously my Friend b4 responding...

Hey man, (good to have ya here)- it's not surprising that the global cocksuckers want murder and mayhem. What is unacceptable in my mind is the American male has been castrated or turned into a poodle like lap dog that can't wait to bring the master his newspaper and lick his filthy feet.

Paying taxes to the brutal U.S. dictatorship is like letting some fucking bully take your lunch money every day. Bullshit - it's time for people to steel up and resist.

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-06-26   6:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rotara (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-06-26   10:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Artisan (#0)

The "death threat" phrase immediately brought to mind Glenn Beck and a few other annoying right-wingers. Every time Rand opens his mouth he puts his foot in it, and doesn't even have a clue what he is doing.

In a sense, there is a hereditary behavior. Both he and Ron are plain talkers -- they both aren't particularly good at lying. Ron's advantage is that his ideology favors being truthful. Rand's disadvantage is that he thinks the ideology of liars is the way to go, but compared to Romney and McCain, he is a rank amateur. Maybe I'm off the mark about honesty. But there seems to be SOME shared element in their presentations that has been more advantageous to Ron than Rand.


Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
There is a fine line between "The enemy of my enemy..." and "With friends like this, who needs enemies?".
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2012-06-26   11:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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