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Title: Rand Paul's baffling support for Mitt Romney's cowboy foreign policy
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URL Source: http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/2 ... -romneys-cowboy-foreign-policy
Published: Jun 16, 2012
Author: Daniel Larisonb
Post Date: 2012-06-16 09:51:28 by Ada
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Views: 658
Comments: 27

The Kentucky senator is supposed to inherit his father's libertarian mantle. Instead, he seems to be endorsing a return to Bush-era recklessness

Did Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) betray his father's political movement by endorsing Mitt Romney last week? No... but the content of Rand's endorsement ought to be alarming for the supporters of Rep. Ron Paul's (R-Texas) presidential campaigns, and for anyone interested in a more restrained and prudent foreign policy. While Rand is not as strictly non-interventionist as his father, no one could confuse him for a hawk in the mold of Florida's Marco Rubio. When the Kentucky senator praised Romney for his "mature" foreign policy and asserted that the Republican nominee believed war should be a last resort, he hurt his reputation with his strongest supporters and undermined the critique of Republican foreign policy that has been central to his father's message. No less important, Rand provided Romney with valuable political cover for a foreign policy that appears to be every bit as reckless as that of George W. Bush.

During an interview with Sean Hannity, Sen. Paul described his meeting with Romney by saying, "I came away from it feeling he would be a very responsible commander-in-chief. I don't think he'll be reckless. I don't think he'll be rash. And I think that he realizes and believes as I do that war is a last resort and something we don't rush willy-nilly into. And I came away feeling that he'll have mature attitude and beliefs towards foreign policy."

Rand's approval of Romney's foreign policy threatens to alienate many of his core supporters.

Normally, a late endorsement of the presumptive Republican nominee by a junior senator from a reliably Republican state would be unimportant. However, Rand Paul is widely and correctly regarded as the most likely heir to the leadership of the movement his father began. It seems likely that he will pursue the Republican nomination in 2016 or 2020 as the candidate of both Tea Party activists and Ron Paul supporters, and the 2012 Ron Paul campaign has been laying the organizational foundations for that future run. This is why the endorsement matters. Rand's approval of Romney's foreign policy threatens to alienate many of his core supporters, and it lends additional support to the Republican foreign policy status quo that he is supposed to be challenging.

The problem is not just that Paul gave Romney a free pass on foreign policy. He lent credibility to the idea that Romney's aggressive rhetoric on the subject doesn't mean anything, and can therefore be safely dismissed by voters worried about a return to the Bush era. Unfortunately, there is every reason to believe that Romney is channeling the views of his most hawkish advisers and promoting the foreign policy favored by veterans of the Bush administration. There is nothing in the public record to suggest that Romney's foreign policy would be one that Rand Paul could support.

Far from believing that war should be a last resort, Romney is on record supporting "preventive" wars in Iraq and Libya, and he has emphasized his readiness to wage "preventive" war against Iran. By definition, an advocate of "preventive" war rejects the idea that war should be a last resort. Romney may not seem reckless, but the Iran policy he and many of his advisers promote undoubtedly is.

As for having "mature" views on foreign policy, Romney has not provided much evidence of maturity in his policy statements. On Russia, China, NATO, and Afghanistan, Romney has made statements that were demonstrably false, provocative, illogical, or sharply at odds with his own advisers' views. From describing Russia as "our number one geopolitical foe" to rejecting negotiations with the Taliban that his advisers support, Romney has been developing a reputation for being neither mature nor responsible.

That isn't surprising, since Romney has essentially no foreign policy experience. His policy statements serve as a reminder that he is one of the least prepared major party nominees on foreign policy in the post-WWII era. Because of that, he has surrounded himself with advisers from the previous Republican administration. That is the common practice for similarly inexperienced politicians. Unfortunately for Romney, the previous administration's foreign policy record was largely one of failure, unforced errors, and one very costly and unnecessary war. It is hardly reassuring to know that Romney's policies will be shaped by many of the same advisers responsible for such poor results.

If Romney wins in November, we should all hope that Rand Paul's assessment of his foreign policy is correct. That requires us to believe that everything Romney has said up to this point is irrelevant and his conduct of foreign policy will be dramatically different from what he has said he will do. That's not very likely. Contrary to popular belief, candidates do tend to follow through on their foreign policy campaign rhetoric because they want to or because they feel constrained to do so, and what they say during the campaign is often a reliable guide to how they will govern.

Read more political coverage at The Week's 2012 Election Center.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Regardless, the country is stuck in the D.C. slime. 2016 is a long ways off and at the rate we're going voters will have to cast their ballot from a FEMA Camp.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-06-16   10:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada, Christine, Jethro Tull, Phant2000, (#0)

Reality to Daniel...wake the hell up.

Ron Paul cut a deal.

The hen house door is open, the fox and chickens are long gone.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   10:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#1)

Regardless, the country is stuck in the D.C. slime. 2016 is a long ways off and at the rate we're going voters will have to cast their ballot from a FEMA Camp.

Voting will be by then MANDATORY.

Those of us that shirk our voting duty will be dealt with "severely".

I love that asinine refrain, "if you dont vote you cant bitch".

Whoever begat that sorry excuse to cover their own ignorance should have been flogged. Betting on a one horse race is the same as voting.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   10:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#0)

However, Rand Paul is widely and correctly regarded as the most likely heir to the leadership of the movement his father began.

Until Rand quits supporting establishment puppets and learns that if you keep on doing what you have always done you are going to keep getting what you always got then no, he is not the heir to the leadership of the freedom movement. Being Ron's son, in and of itself, does not automagically make him that. He has to learn at some point that you will never get what you want if you keep voting for what you don't want.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-16   10:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#3)

I love that asinine refrain, "if you dont vote you cant bitch".

Whoever begat that sorry excuse to cover their own ignorance should have been flogged. Betting on a one horse race is the same as voting.

it is asinine....again....as if we really have choice between those who are selected for us.

christine  posted on  2012-06-16   11:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Christine, Jethro Tull, Phant2000, Rubes (#5)

Those that care to read and listen to what the politicians have to say, is enough to make a thinking man want to not vote.

Example, Obongo or Oromney..

Difference??? One is black, one is white, that is our total choice.

Obongo says we are moving our military to the Pacific and Asia.

Oromney says we will have the strongest military...EVER...

Those two declarations, JUST MIGHT make a man stop, think, consider and ask WHAT THE HELL FOR????????

Those two clods know something we do not?????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   11:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#3)

I love that asinine refrain, "if you dont vote you cant bitch".

I love that new refrain, "if you do vote you are a bitch".

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-06-16   13:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#7)

I love that new refrain, "if you do vote you are a bitch".

"IF YOU VOTE, YOU ARE THEIR BITCH"

We can go havesy on a new saying???????

Anyone using it from now on will have to pay us????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   13:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

"IF YOU VOTE, YOU ARE THEIR BITCH"

It genuinely pains me to assent to a Cynical proposition like that, because I genuinely love my country too. They are changing this place into a kind of strange caricature of itself and turning it to purposes unholy.

The political system that has overgrown the Constitutional system that underlies it is a cancerous growth that must either be excised or kill the host.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-16   13:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#6)

Obongo says we are moving our military to the Pacific and Asia.

Oromney says we will have the strongest military...EVER...

Those two declarations, JUST MIGHT make a man stop, think, consider and ask WHAT THE HELL FOR????????

Those two clods know something we do not?????

Will World War III be between the U.S. and China?

Avoiding a U.S.-China War

They just want PEACE and for South East Asia to have DEMOCRACY, Cyni

If you don't like it, get out and vote ;)


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-16   13:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge (#9)

It genuinely pains me to assent to a Cynical proposition like that, because I genuinely love my country too.

As long as people believe there are HONEST politicians, we are going to have a problem.

To get to the top, every politician MUST COMPROMISE THEIR VIRGINITY somewhere along the line.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   14:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wudidiz.randge (#10)

Yet suddenly, everything is changing. China’s new economic power is being matched by a military build-up which deeply alarms its Asian neighbours, and Washington. The spectre of armed conflict between the superpowers, unknown since the Korean War ended in 1953, looms once more.

wud...

From your url...

Aberration in Asia, China is THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT WANTS THE US TO LEAVE ASIA.

Even Russia behind the scenes is on its knees praying we never leave.

Russia, just as in 1939, prayed that the Japanese would move south instead of West, now once again, Russia prays the Chinese will move South instead of North.

If China were to invade Russia, Russia knows full well they would receive no help from Central or Western Europe.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   14:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#6)

Those two clods know something we do not?????

They are both serving the same master/handlers.

Phant2000  posted on  2012-06-16   14:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Phant2000 (#13)

They are both serving the same master/handlers.

Drat...

I was thinking bout voting for Oromney cause he has a good looking wife.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   14:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#12)

China is THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT WANTS THE US TO LEAVE ASIA.

Yeah. According to their source.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-16   15:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom, Phant2000 (#14)

Drat...

I was thinking bout voting for Oromney cause he has a good looking wife.

He promises to lower taxes too.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-16   15:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wudidiz (#16)

He promises to lower taxes too.

I heard he updates his kill list daily. That many really knows how to process unwanted people.


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-06-16   15:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#12)

If China were to invade Russia, Russia knows full well they would receive no help from Central or Western Europe.

If war is inevitable, which I sincerely doubt it is, the last thing we want and hopefully the last thing the ptb want, is for China to be dominating the world militarily. Look how they treat their own people. But they probably say the same about the U.S.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-16   15:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: titorite (#17)

BREAKING: In Response to Obama's "Kill List," Romney to Reveal Secret "Bully List"


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-16   15:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: titorite (#17)

I support the occupation

You have a job, tit?

Phant2000  posted on  2012-06-16   21:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#2)

Ron Paul cut a deal.

Rand might have cut a deal, or he might have done something stupid. Or both.

But whatever Rand did, it had nothing to do with Ron.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-06-16   21:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pinguinite (#21)

But whatever Rand did, it had nothing to do with Ron.

Rand had nothing to deal with, Ron did.

Ron made the deal, Rand is the beneficiary.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   22:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

You complain that others need to wake up and see reality, but it's clearly you that need that medicine.

Certainly it's easiest to always assume the worst about people. Maybe that's why you do it so readily all the time. Actually recognizing that every now and then someone comes along who actually does a half decent job at something takes more emotional effort than you feel like putting forth. No, it's easier just to believe that everyone deserves to be run over by a truck. That way, you're never disappointed.

By the authority vested in me by.... well..... me, I hereby declare your theme song to be Simon and Garfunkel's "I am a Rock".

The fallout Rand is getting from his decision to endorse the putz can hardly be considered a benefit to him -- unless you consider death threats are somehow cool. Rand is facing a huge amount of grief from his former supporters, and if the establishment pubs are going to welcome him, it will be in spite of, not because of, Ron Paul.

And if you refuse to see that Ron has never wavered from his principles throughout his career in Congress, and insist that because a few campaign decisions back in 08 *YOU* disagreed with somehow means he's a complete phony, then .... well, just play your new theme song.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-06-16   22:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pinguinite (#23)

You complain that others need to wake up and see reality, but it's clearly you that need that medicine.

Perhaps.

Slice it however one likes, thin , thick or crossways.

Ron Paul conned his supporters one more time and far too many have not the integrity to admit.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   23:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom, Pinguinite (#24)

Ron Paul conned his supporters one more time and far too many have not the integrity to admit.

I most humbly, or at least more or less humbly, beg to disagree.

I think a lot of people saw what they thought was a genuine ray of hope.

However, I stand by my analysis which I have often stated - someone got to him in 2008 and explained the facts of life (and death) to him, and he fell into line because of fear for someone or someones whom he cares for more than his own life.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-16   23:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#25)

I most humbly, or at least more or less humbly, beg to disagree.

It will be at least interesting to see if there is indeed a payoff for one or both of the Pauls.

The Bush tribe is operating in the background and an Obongo win WOULD NOT DISHEARTEN THEM.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-16   23:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#26)

It will be at least interesting to see if there is indeed a payoff for one or both of the Pauls.

Yes. Although the people we are up against are sneaky enough to make it look like their was a quid pro quo just for the psychological value of disheartening Ron's supporters.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-17   0:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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