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Title: Rand confronted on Bilderbergers - Rand Paul Devolution is NOT Ron Paul Grass Roots Revolution!
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfS4suqaPY
Published: Jun 15, 2012
Author: infopowerment
Post Date: 2012-06-19 07:26:06 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Rand Paul, Romney, Bilderberg and other issues, Duck and Dive
Views: 1983
Comments: 67

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#1. To: GreyLmist (#0)

Ron is a revolutionary.

Rand is a Republican.

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wakeup  posted on  2012-06-19   9:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now THAT is what true journalism is all about. The news back in the 60's was about as hard hitting, but not in the same context or level of intensity as this.

This REALLY shows Rand's true colors doesn't it.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-19   12:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

True colors.

Maybe not. He may not like the attacks he is getting from some.

His daddy may think loyal supporters should be a little more patient.

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wakeup  posted on  2012-06-19   18:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Given what all has happened recently, Rand would not be elected in KY for another term.

He is not gonna be the veep and his career in politics is likely over.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-06-19   18:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Given what all has happened recently, Rand would not be elected in KY for another term.

He is not gonna be the veep and his career in politics is likely over.

Sir Lod...

It was very possible that Rand would not be reelected.

Also, Ron is at the end of his rope with age.

Combine the two factors and it is possible that Ron did in fact make a deal.

If Rand is not VP or top cabinet post then he is finished and all of the work Ron did is for naught.

Only time will tell what arrangement was made.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-19   19:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

According to what I heard on Rense the other night all is not well in the Paul family. Rumor has it that Ron is not at all happy with Rand's endorsement of that NeoCon Pond Scum McRomney. My reading is still that Rand his hooked up with a Kristyun Zionazi Pseudo-church and Ron is not, and that is the big difference. The two have a different outlook on theology. Rand appears to be a Scofield Rapturite and Ron appears not. And that makes for a big difference in worldview and reactions.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-19   19:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And that makes for a big difference in worldview and reactions.

I am still getting solicitations from Rand, using his Fathers mailing list and phone numbers.

Highly unethical on Rons part.

Father and son, two peas in a pod.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-19   20:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not my reading at this point pending more information. I didn't trust Rand early because of his Kristyun Zionazi expressions of belief in the true god of the Rapture Monkeys i.e., USRAEL. I don't get the same vibes from Ron. I don't agree with him on everything but I think he is as honest as politicians come i.e., a Statesman.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-19   21:40:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oromney with Ron Paul on board is better than a 50/50 chance of being President.

The continued sniping by Paulites about Rand being a turncoat etc etc is playing right into Obongos hands.

If it continues, Oromney will have to select someone else and possibly lose because of it.

The Bush cabal would just love that.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-19   21:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If it continues, Oromney will have to select someone else and possibly lose because of it.

The Bush cabal would just love that.

I thought you were more clever than that Cyni. The Romney camp IS the Bush cabal.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-19   23:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

His daddy may think loyal supporters should be a little more patient.

So how many nukes should we absorb before we decide we fucked up and elected a worse president than Obama?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-19   23:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Fuck that mother fucker for ignoring him.

One thing I can not stand is a piece of shit representatives that ignores those they profess to represent.

May the first bullseye be on him.

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Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-06-20   0:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Romney camp IS the Bush cabal.

Never been accused of being clever.

Santorum was the Bush family stalking horse.

Jeb is waiting in the wings, a "win" for Oromney and Rand would push Jeb back for years to come.

Matter of mathematics, Jeb was not willing to try it against Obongo, but four years from now against an unknown, he comes out better.

Oromney and Rand win, Jeb is looking at possible 16 year wait. Bush tribe can read the tea leaves, and do their math, their bacon is good if Obongo wins.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   1:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oromney and Rand win, Jeb is looking at possible 16 year wait. Bush tribe can read the tea leaves, and do their math, their bacon is good if Obongo wins.

You know darn good and well Obummer will win. It is not like we have free elections in this nation.

I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-06-20   1:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You know darn good and well Obummer will win. It is not like we have free elections in this nation.

Politics is a very interesting study in physics.

A slight move here, has a large reactive effect somewhere else, to a predictive conclusion.

Odds favored Oromney, IF THE RON PAUL STRENGTH COULD BE TRANSFERRED IN NEAR TOTAL. The problem was how to transfer this strength with little or no effect among the supporters. A stumble could be fatal.

The Rand method, just prior to the TX primary, was a classic blunder, with Ormoney winning TX. Since then and to date, both Pauls have damaged their own cause and diminished their strength. All of this enhances the position of Obongo. An Obongo win would fatally tarnish the future of Oromney and the Pauls.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   8:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

An Obongo win would fatally tarnish the future of Oromney and the Pauls.

I'd say they (Oromney and the Pauls) earned it.

Phant2000  posted on  2012-06-20   8:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd say they (Oromney and the Pauls) earned it.

True... BUT THAT LEAVES US WITH ANOTHER DAMNED BUSH IN FOUR YEARS????????????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   8:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oromney and Rand win, Jeb is looking at possible 16 year wait. Bush tribe can read the tea leaves, and do their math, their bacon is good if Obongo wins.

Here I am more cynical than you - I don't think there is any calculating left - the "fix is in". I don't know who the PTB have settled on but you can rest assured that the public election is a mere formality.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-20   10:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't know who the PTB have settled on but you can rest assured that the public election is a mere formality.

Read a NYT squibb this morning with comments from Jeb.

Translation is that Bush tribe wants NOTHING to do with tea party or its adherents.

That would fit letting Romney and Pauls go down the drain.

Obongo wins, Pauls and Oromney are gone.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   11:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

True... BUT THAT LEAVES US WITH ANOTHER DAMNED BUSH IN FOUR YEARS????????????

If Romney wins, we won't BE HERE in "another four years", since he will have ignited WWIII by attacking Iran, leading to nuclear exchanges between the big three (US, Russia, and China).

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   11:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If Romney wins, we won't BE HERE in "another four years", since he will have ignited WWIII by attacking Iran, leading to nuclear exchanges between the big three (US, Russia, and China).

My view is that it will take near ten years for China to be ready.

Complex situation, China and Russia are fellow "communists", soul mates, blood brothers or whatever. However Russia well knows that China is an 800 pound gorilla living right next door to them.

It is in Russias interest to turn China South.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   11:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As far as who is on whose team, have you looked at Romney's "advisors"?

Romney Hires G.W. Bush Advisors

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   11:17:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If we attack Iran, they will sink our carrier groups with salvos of Sunburn and Yakhont missiles. They will also most likely fire barrages of missiles at US installations in the area, including Iraq, as well as massive retaliation against Israel.

We would of course respond with tactical nuclear weapons, which in turn would provoke a nuclear response from Russia and China.

Then the ICBMS get fired up and soon they're on their merry way.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   11:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As far as who is on whose team, have you looked at Romney's "advisors"?

Last I saw sixty or seventy of them were past Bush people.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   11:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Last I saw sixty or seventy of them were past Bush people.

That's what I meant by saying the Romney cabal IS the Bush cabal.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   11:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That's what I meant by saying the Romney cabal IS the Bush cabal.

Most of them are professional hangers on.

They are for hire and owe allegiance to whomever signs their paycheck. Most of them are people that have been around Washington for years and float from one politician to another.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   11:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Many are members of the "Project for a New American Century", and are the masterminds behind the 9/11 attacks.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   11:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here is one that is a professional joiner.

"Kristy Campbell going back to work for Mitt Romney

Kristy Campbell, a former spokeswoman for Jeb Bush and Bill McCollum, is joining Mitt Romney's general election campaign as deputy communications director, the New York Times reports. Campbell worked in Romney's press shop during his 2008 campaign for president.

Most recently, Campbell was serving as communications director for the American Conservative Union. She also spent time in New Mexico working for Gov. Susana Martinez

Campbell adds more Florida ties to Team Romney. Romney's national spokeswoman Andrea Saul worked briefly for Gov. Charlie Crist when he was running for the U.S. Senate as a Republican, as did Romney chief strategist Stuart Stevens".

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   11:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Try this (from the earlier link)...

Among the 22 members of Mitt Romney’s foreign policy staff, 15 were foreign policy advisers under George W. Bush. Six are former members of Project For A New American Century (PNAC).

PNAC stressed a doctrine that "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world," and supported "a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity."

In 2006 PNAC morphed into the Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI). The FPI homepage greets visitors with “The Case for Regime Change in Iran.”

Romney's foreign policy white paper - ironically titled “An American Century” - employs the same rhetoric used by PNAC and the Bush administration neocons: it promotes American exceptionalism, military force projection, preemptive nuclear first strikes and taking over control of the global landscape with little or no interest in pursuing diplomacy.

This should come as no surprise since Romney's foreign policy is structured by G. W. Bush's former foreign policy team, with a foreword by Eliot Cohen himself.

Gary Schmitt, a former Senior Fellow at PNAC and current Director of Advanced Strategic Studies at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a right-wing think tank that houses Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, co-authored Romney's foreign policy.

Robert Kagan is a “special adviser” on Romney’s foreign policy staff.

Eric Edelman is a "counter-proliferation adviser" on Romney’s team, and is also a fellow at FPI.

It's no wonder that Romney is so hawkish on the Iranian nuclear “threat,” since the Bush-era neocons still owe Israel big time and are now driving Mitt Romney's foreign policy doctrines.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   11:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Somewhere I read a list of Clinton "advisers" that worked for Bush.

Most of these hangers on are totally unknown by the President, whomever he might be.

They drift from think tanks to academia to politics, like bedbugs in a whore house.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   11:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The ones I'm talking about are those with key roles and influence foreign policy.

People such as Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, and Michael Chertoff.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If Romney wins, we won't BE HERE in "another four years", since he will have ignited WWIII by attacking Iran, leading to nuclear exchanges between the big three (US, Russia, and China).

And you think the other warmonger who is running to retain his seat WON'T attack Iran if he is told to?

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And you think the other warmonger who is running to retain his seat WON'T attack Iran if he is told to?

Thus far he has resisted attempts to force him to do so. I can admire him for that at least.

Romney on the other hand has given his solemn pledge that he WILL attack Iran and get on his knees for Israel whenever and however they tell him to.

He IS VERY good buddies with Nutenheyou after all...

A Friendship Dating to 1976 Resonates in 2012

So you can lament how the "Kenyan" shouldn't be president, but compared to Romney, he's another Thomas Jefferson.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:37:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You done run your train off the tracks my friend! LOL, the Kenyan another Thomas Jefferson!!!! I sure am glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that. I would have ruined my monitor and keyboard.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

LOL, the Kenyan another Thomas Jefferson!!!!

I qualified that with "when compared to Romney". If you dislike Obama, you haven't seen ANYTHING yet, if that neonazi Romney gets himself elected.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you also admire his tyrannical ass for thinking he has the right to kill people based on an ACCUSATION that they MIGHT be a terrorist (or simply because he doesn't like them)? Or do you admire him because he thinks he can force his "subjects" to buy stuff they may prefer not to buy? I can't see much that is admirable about the would be king who is currently illegally occupying the White House.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, I don't think Romney will be a good president either (assuming he gets (s)elected) but just because he isn't worth a bucket of warm piss doesn't elevate Obama any higher.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

All of which Romney says he fully supports and agrees with. Hell, Romney INVENTED "Obama Care" for Massachusetts and forced citizens there to purchase health insurance or face fines and imprisonment.

Were you fond of Dick Cheney and his merry gang of liars and traitors? Romney is pretty much a slicked up version of Cheney, has the same foreign policy crew as Bush/Cheney, and is even more dangerous in that HE will have his finger on the magic button.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's the classic "lesser of two evils" scenario. In this case, Obama is the lesser of those two evils.

We can thank the GOP and MSM for that choice, along with all the senile geezers and retards who think Romney is good for "God's Chosen".

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Were you fond of Dick Cheney and his merry gang of liars and traitors? Romney is pretty much a slicked up version of Cheney, has the same foreign policy crew as Bush/Cheney, and is even more dangerous in that HE will have his finger on the magic button.

How long have you been reading my posts? Have I ever, even once, indicated that I admired any establishment politician? If you want to look for an example I can wait.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In this case, Obama is the lesser of those two evils.

Even if I believed that to be true I don't knowingly go out and vote for what I know to be evil. And Obama has proven that he is evil--sure, Romney has too but then I am not going to vote for him. And I damned well will not vote for the Kenyan either.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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