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Title: Rand confronted on Bilderbergers - Rand Paul Devolution is NOT Ron Paul Grass Roots Revolution!
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfS4suqaPY
Published: Jun 15, 2012
Author: infopowerment
Post Date: 2012-06-19 07:26:06 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Rand Paul, Romney, Bilderberg and other issues, Duck and Dive
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#28. To: FormerLurker (#27)

Here is one that is a professional joiner.

"Kristy Campbell going back to work for Mitt Romney

Kristy Campbell, a former spokeswoman for Jeb Bush and Bill McCollum, is joining Mitt Romney's general election campaign as deputy communications director, the New York Times reports. Campbell worked in Romney's press shop during his 2008 campaign for president.

Most recently, Campbell was serving as communications director for the American Conservative Union. She also spent time in New Mexico working for Gov. Susana Martinez

Campbell adds more Florida ties to Team Romney. Romney's national spokeswoman Andrea Saul worked briefly for Gov. Charlie Crist when he was running for the U.S. Senate as a Republican, as did Romney chief strategist Stuart Stevens".

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   11:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

Try this (from the earlier link)...

Among the 22 members of Mitt Romney’s foreign policy staff, 15 were foreign policy advisers under George W. Bush. Six are former members of Project For A New American Century (PNAC).

PNAC stressed a doctrine that "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world," and supported "a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity."

In 2006 PNAC morphed into the Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI). The FPI homepage greets visitors with “The Case for Regime Change in Iran.”

Romney's foreign policy white paper - ironically titled “An American Century” - employs the same rhetoric used by PNAC and the Bush administration neocons: it promotes American exceptionalism, military force projection, preemptive nuclear first strikes and taking over control of the global landscape with little or no interest in pursuing diplomacy.

This should come as no surprise since Romney's foreign policy is structured by G. W. Bush's former foreign policy team, with a foreword by Eliot Cohen himself.

Gary Schmitt, a former Senior Fellow at PNAC and current Director of Advanced Strategic Studies at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a right-wing think tank that houses Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, co-authored Romney's foreign policy.

Robert Kagan is a “special adviser” on Romney’s foreign policy staff.

Eric Edelman is a "counter-proliferation adviser" on Romney’s team, and is also a fellow at FPI.

It's no wonder that Romney is so hawkish on the Iranian nuclear “threat,” since the Bush-era neocons still owe Israel big time and are now driving Mitt Romney's foreign policy doctrines.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   11:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: FormerLurker (#29)

Somewhere I read a list of Clinton "advisers" that worked for Bush.

Most of these hangers on are totally unknown by the President, whomever he might be.

They drift from think tanks to academia to politics, like bedbugs in a whore house.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   11:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

The ones I'm talking about are those with key roles and influence foreign policy.

People such as Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, and Michael Chertoff.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FormerLurker (#20)

If Romney wins, we won't BE HERE in "another four years", since he will have ignited WWIII by attacking Iran, leading to nuclear exchanges between the big three (US, Russia, and China).

And you think the other warmonger who is running to retain his seat WON'T attack Iran if he is told to?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

And you think the other warmonger who is running to retain his seat WON'T attack Iran if he is told to?

Thus far he has resisted attempts to force him to do so. I can admire him for that at least.

Romney on the other hand has given his solemn pledge that he WILL attack Iran and get on his knees for Israel whenever and however they tell him to.

He IS VERY good buddies with Nutenheyou after all...

A Friendship Dating to 1976 Resonates in 2012

So you can lament how the "Kenyan" shouldn't be president, but compared to Romney, he's another Thomas Jefferson.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:37:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#33)

You done run your train off the tracks my friend! LOL, the Kenyan another Thomas Jefferson!!!! I sure am glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that. I would have ruined my monitor and keyboard.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: James Deffenbach (#34)

LOL, the Kenyan another Thomas Jefferson!!!!

I qualified that with "when compared to Romney". If you dislike Obama, you haven't seen ANYTHING yet, if that neonazi Romney gets himself elected.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FormerLurker (#33)

Do you also admire his tyrannical ass for thinking he has the right to kill people based on an ACCUSATION that they MIGHT be a terrorist (or simply because he doesn't like them)? Or do you admire him because he thinks he can force his "subjects" to buy stuff they may prefer not to buy? I can't see much that is admirable about the would be king who is currently illegally occupying the White House.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#35)

Well, I don't think Romney will be a good president either (assuming he gets (s)elected) but just because he isn't worth a bucket of warm piss doesn't elevate Obama any higher.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#36)

All of which Romney says he fully supports and agrees with. Hell, Romney INVENTED "Obama Care" for Massachusetts and forced citizens there to purchase health insurance or face fines and imprisonment.

Were you fond of Dick Cheney and his merry gang of liars and traitors? Romney is pretty much a slicked up version of Cheney, has the same foreign policy crew as Bush/Cheney, and is even more dangerous in that HE will have his finger on the magic button.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: James Deffenbach (#37)

It's the classic "lesser of two evils" scenario. In this case, Obama is the lesser of those two evils.

We can thank the GOP and MSM for that choice, along with all the senile geezers and retards who think Romney is good for "God's Chosen".


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#38)

Were you fond of Dick Cheney and his merry gang of liars and traitors? Romney is pretty much a slicked up version of Cheney, has the same foreign policy crew as Bush/Cheney, and is even more dangerous in that HE will have his finger on the magic button.

How long have you been reading my posts? Have I ever, even once, indicated that I admired any establishment politician? If you want to look for an example I can wait.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#39)

In this case, Obama is the lesser of those two evils.

Even if I believed that to be true I don't knowingly go out and vote for what I know to be evil. And Obama has proven that he is evil--sure, Romney has too but then I am not going to vote for him. And I damned well will not vote for the Kenyan either.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   12:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#30)

So did Romney get the huge bump in the polls that you said would follow Rand's endorsement? That is to say above the noise generated by the current economic stagflation towards Romney. If the Ron Paulites are the rank-and-file Republicans that you have stated that they are.


Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
There is a fine line between "The enemy of my enemy..." and "With friends like this, who needs enemies?".
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2012-06-20   12:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: James Deffenbach (#40)

Have I ever, even once, indicated that I admired any establishment politician?

Not saying you have. I'm saying Romney would make Obama look like Thomas Jefferson in comparison to what we would have in store for us if he were elected.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   12:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#6)

My reading is still that Rand his hooked up with a Kristyun Zionazi Pseudo-church and Ron is not, and that is the big difference.

that is interesting and very likely.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-06-20   12:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: James Deffenbach (#41)

I will most likely vote for the LP candidate, UNLESS there appears to be a strong chance of Romney getting elected, then I MIGHT hold my nose and vote AGAINST Romney by choosing the Kenyan in the election booth.

I'll vote against global Armageddon any day if given no other real choice.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   13:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: James Deffenbach (#41)

As far as Ron Paul, hell, he can't even keep his own house in order, so how could we expect him to overcome the corruption and deceipt of the professional politicians in DC?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   13:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: FormerLurker (#43)

Not saying you have. I'm saying Romney would make Obama look like Thomas Jefferson in comparison to what we would have in store for us if he were elected.

So you believe that Romney is not a, but THE, Antichrist? If you think he will be that much worse than Obama you must think so.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   13:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FormerLurker (#45)

I will most likely vote for the LP candidate, UNLESS there appears to be a strong chance of Romney getting elected, then I MIGHT hold my nose and vote AGAINST Romney by choosing the Kenyan in the election booth.

As Shirley Q. Liquor would say, "To each they own" but I can't hold my nose tight enough to vote for that damned Kenyan. Not that I'm going to vote for Romney.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-06-20   13:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: James Deffenbach (#47)

So you believe that Romney is not a, but THE, Antichrist?

He could very well be, if there exists such a person. He certainly doesn't stand for kindness and charity, quite the opposite in fact. Being that he would have no problem with setting WWIII in motion, leading to global annihilation of the human race, I doubt he's the Second Coming.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   13:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: James Deffenbach (#48)

"To each they own" but I can't hold my nose tight enough to vote for that damned Kenyan.

Chances are Romney will self destruct before the general election. Then I won't need to squeeze my nose at all.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-20   13:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: FormerLurker (#31)

People such as Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, and Michael Chertoff.

Correct, most are Jew bedbugs in a whore house.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   14:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: PnbC (#42)

So did Romney get the huge bump in the polls that you said would follow Rand's endorsement?

Might you point out where I posted anything re a "bump"???????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   14:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#19)

Translation is that Bush tribe wants NOTHING to do with tea party or its adherents.

Of course not. The Tea Party people, most of them anyway, want honest government. The Bush's don't want to spend the rest of their miserable existence with 3 squares and a flop under supervised care.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-20   16:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: farmfriend (#44)

My reading is still that Rand his hooked up with a Kristyun Zionazi Pseudo-church and Ron is not, and that is the big difference.

that is interesting and very likely.

I forget exactly where and when but it was something he said back during his Senatorial Campaign. For one that he is rabidly pro-USRAELI war crimes, but there was a specific comment reported that was screaming out "I'm a Kristyun Zionazi".

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-20   17:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Original_Intent (#53)

Of course not. The Tea Party people, most of them anyway, want honest government.

Bush wants to be IN CHARGE, IN CONTROL, share power with no one.

Tea party not their cup of tea.

However, when Bush comes to shove, most tea drinkers are pubs at heart and will vote as programmed, principles be damned.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-20   18:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Cynicom (#55)

However, when Bush comes to shove, most tea drinkers are pubs at heart and will vote as programmed, principles be damned.

Sadly too true. Thankfully is malady I have never had. I have NEVER really been a Party Voter. I was nominally a Democrat until my late 40's when I switched to libertarian. I'm still not a Party Line voter but I would drink a cup of Hemlock before registering as a Refraudlican or a Demoncrat (again).

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-20   18:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Original_Intent, 4 (#56)

All we have here on our voter ID is a spot to stamp which primary we voted in. No party affiliation, as such, is shown.

God, does the primary ever seem a long, long time ago.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-06-20   19:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Lod (#57)

Here we have to register for the Party whose Primary we want to vote in.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-20   19:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Cynicom (#52) (Edited)

Might you point out where I posted anything re a "bump"???????

I had a feeling that would be your response. Maybe you never said "bump", but come on, if you are intellectually honest you know exactly what I'm talking about.

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=146901&Disp=52#C52


Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
There is a fine line between "The enemy of my enemy..." and "With friends like this, who needs enemies?".
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2012-06-20   23:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: FormerLurker (#22)

Obama hired a lot of the same advisors of his predecessors too including Gates at DOD. It's always the same recycled freaks in government--like I've said dozens of times--it's a smooth transition of corruption (and nepotism) from one admin to the next. We're screwed with whichever puppet occupies the WH. The warmongering is equally as bad with democrats (who historically have initiated most wars. fact. do the math) as republicans.

christine  posted on  2012-06-21   0:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: PnbC (#59)

I had a feeling that would be your response. Maybe you never said "bump", but come on, if you are intellectually honest you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Well now, I am neither an intellectual of any kind nor particularly honest.

I usually can recall what truths or lies I have expounded, thus, the word bump did not ring a bell in any context. One would tend to believe that just perhaps someone had made an honest error.

That is what I prefer to believe.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-21   2:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: christine (#60)

A) Obama has refused to attack Iran

B) Romney has promised he WILL attack Iran

Who's the bigger puppet of the two?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-21   4:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: FormerLurker (#62)

when did A happen?

christine  posted on  2012-06-21   10:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine (#63)

when did A happen?

We haven't bombed them yet have we? Israel and their US dual nationals have been moaning about how Iran is "months away" from acquiring nuclear weapons for years now.

Yet Obama hasn't caved in to them.

Obama emerges from Israel-Iran talks with precious commodity


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-21   12:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: christine (#63)

And the other side of the coin...

Romney Says Obama Prefers Letting Iran Have Nukes to Letting Israel Attack


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-06-21   12:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Cynicom (#61)

Clearly I made a mistake by asking you about what you said on another thread (I won't make that mistake again). So I went to the thread in question and replied to your last reply there and hopefully then you can give me a straight answer.


Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
There is a fine line between "The enemy of my enemy..." and "With friends like this, who needs enemies?".
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2012-06-21   13:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: PnbC (#66)

So I went to the thread in question and replied to your last reply there and hopefully then you can give me a straight answer.

You confuse an olde man.

Rephrase your question and I would be happy to respond.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-06-21   13:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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