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Title: Romney, Candidate for King, Denies He Would Need Congress’s Approval for War
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Published: Jun 20, 2012
Author: http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2012/06/18/r
Post Date: 2012-06-20 22:51:35 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Making the rounds is this clip of a Face the Nation interview with Mitt Romney. In it, he declares the Constitution irrelevant and argues he alone can make the decision to use military force against Iran. Putting aside for a moment the fact that Iran has no nuclear weapons program, just consider for a moment that the Republican nominee can now openly say that as president he can make war without the consent of Congress. That’s what passes for a campaign pledge from the Grand Old Party’s leadership in 2012. Obama also believes in the president’s ability to make war on his own, despite laws mandating he seek the consent of Congress. But at least Obama does it in secret or by proxy. That said, the Obama administration, terrible as it is, has expended considerable political capital in staving off a US-Israeli war on Iran. Obama officials, from Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey, have been paraded in front of Congress for months emphasizing their estimate that Iran is not developing nuclear weapons and has demonstrated no intention to do so. Then Obama secretly contacted the Supreme Ayatollah through Turkey’s prime minister in a diplomatic fashion. He then released to the press the results of a Pentagon war simulation which demonstrated that war with Iran would result in the outbreak of a regional conflict which would be almost impossible to contain. The administration did this while getting hammered by the GOP candidates and the Israeli leadership. As Pillar has written, Iran has “ample reason” to believe, “ultimately the main Western interest is in regime change.” I believe that too. But as of right now, it appears the Obama administration views the military option as too costly. Even establishmentarian voices, like Aaron David Miller, who I’ve personally witnessed saying “a unilateral attack [on Iran] would be totally discretionary. It would be a war of choice,” not of necessity. George Perkovich of Carnegie Endowment for International Peace interjected Miller’s statement for emphasis on what an unprovoked military strike actually is, saying “it would be illegal.” Daniel Larison writes that Romney excerpts like this make it clear what kind of president he would be. “No one should have any illusions about how Romney would conduct foreign policy if he is elected,” he argues. Maybe. It’s also possible that Romney would conduct foreign policy indecipherably from Obama and is just saying this to show he is tougher and get Republicans to vote for him. Either way, watching Romney talk about foreign policy makes one thing abundantly clear: he hasn’t a clue what he is talking about.
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#1. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)
And that is precisely why we'd be better off with Obama. Not by any huge amount, unless you can conceive of the consequences of an attack against Iran, whereas they have the means to sink US aircraft carriers in retaliation for a military strike. That, and they have very powerful friends, such as the Russians and the Chinese. He got that idea from every sumbitch who has occupied the White House since WWII (which was the last war that Congress actually declared like the Constitution says they are supposed to if we get involved in one). Reagan waged war against a tiny little country that is probably not as big as most of our smallest states without any Congressional declaration of war. Both Bush's waged war without any congressional declaration of war, so did Clinton and so has Obama. Why would Romney not believe that if he gets to occupy the White House that he can't be king too? Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
i'm applauding your post!!!! you are exactly right!
why do you think that Obama or Romney make the decisions for war? they do exactly what their handlers tell them to. the puppet decision isn't going to be made by the voters. it will be made by whomever the pupper masters think will best further their agenda.
p.s. Romney is simply exhorting the sheeple cheerleaders!
George W. Bush carefully puts down his glass of bourbon and branch water to stand up from his front porch rocker and slow-clap for Mitt Romney.... Making the rounds is this clip of a Face the Nation interview with Mitt Romney. In it, he declares the Constitution irrelevant and argues he alone can make the decision to use military force against Iran.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#2. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)
Putting aside for a moment the fact that Iran has no nuclear weapons program, just consider for a moment that the Republican nominee can now openly say that as president he can make war without the consent of Congress. That’s what passes for a campaign pledge from the Grand Old Party’s leadership in 2012.
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
He got that idea from every sumbitch who has occupied the White House since WWII (which was the last war that Congress actually declared like the Constitution says they are supposed to if we get involved in one). Reagan waged war against a tiny little country that is probably not as big as most of our smallest states without any Congressional declaration of war. Both Bush's waged war without any congressional declaration of war, so did Clinton and so has Obama. Why would Romney not believe that if he gets to occupy the White House that he can't be king too?
#4. To: FormerLurker (#1)
#5. To: All (#4)
#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)
...Mitt Romney. In it, he declares the Constitution irrelevant and argues he alone can make the decision to use military force against Iran.
-Alex Kurtagic
#7. To: X-15 (#6)
Mike! where've you been?
#8. To: christine (#7)
Lots of Red River Valley romance 'n drama!!
-Alex Kurtagic
#9. To: christine (#4) (Edited)
I think Obama has a bit of realism about him that accepts input from the generals who tell him what would happen if we attacked Iran. Romney is so brain dead he'd do it without considering any input other than his boyfriend's, Benjamin Netanyahu. That, and of Michael Chertoff's, and other fellow dual nationals.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#10. To: James Deffenbach, All (#2) (Edited)
I've been thinking that the game of Chess has had something to do with gumming up our government and so many others with a bunch of warmongering, regime-changing megalomaniacs throughout history. I think the so-called pawns should be called The People and the other figures should be on the front lines guarding them. Edited for spelling. He got that idea from every sumbitch who has occupied the White House since WWII
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#11. To: GreyLmist (#10)
Good point. I think the so-called pawns should be called The People and the other figures should be on the front lines guarding them.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#12. To: christine (#3)
Thank you Christine. I have the occasional lucid interval. >(;^{] i'm applauding your post!!!! you are exactly right!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#13. To: GreyLmist (#10)
Yeah, the people are pawns, at least most are. Too many of them don't really know what's going on because most of them are tv addicted ninnies who never would burden themselves with reading books--they hide information in those you know. And if their favorite news reader or politician said it then that's the way it is and there is no convincing them otherwise. I think the so-called pawns should be called The People and the other figures should be on the front lines guarding them.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#14. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
But everyone of them except Obama sought Congressional approval of their proposed military action, even GW Bush. Obama now has a Congress which does NOTHING if he decides to launch wars against Libya, Syria, and Pakistan, amongst others such as the Sudan and other African hellholes. It is a very dangerous path we're on, and it's scary knowing that Obama is the more moderate choice for the next president. He got that idea from every sumbitch who has occupied the White House since WWII (which was the last war that Congress actually declared like the Constitution says they are supposed to if we get involved in one).
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#15. To: FormerLurker (#14)
I don't know what you're smoking that would cause you to believe that Obama is any kind of moderate but since it distorts reality so bad I don't believe I want any. And "seeking Congressional approval" is not the same thing as asking for, and getting, a declaration of war. All the wars/police actions/whatever you want to call them since WWII have been illegal. It is a very dangerous path we're on, and it's scary knowing that Obama is the more moderate choice for the next president.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#16. To: James Deffenbach (#15)
I don't know what you're smoking that would cause you to believe that Obama is any kind of moderate but since it distorts reality so bad I don't believe I want any. I don't know we're you've been, but Romney is a MUCH greater war mongerer than Obama, and promises to attack Iran once he get's elected if they don't kiss his and Nutenheyou's ass as gingerly as demanded. He is ALL for everything Obama has done, but says he'll do MORE to "fight terrorists", beef up the military even more, add more troops to Afghanistan, and has the same neocon PNAC team that graced the Bush/Cheney administration. So as bad as Obama is in terms of waging wars, Romney promises to be MUCH MUCH worse. You can take that to the bank. And "seeking Congressional approval" is not the same thing as asking for, and getting, a declaration of war. All the wars/police actions/whatever you want to call them since WWII have been illegal. Of course wars should be declared by Congress, as stated in the Constitution. However, at least previous administrations gave the ILLUSION of asking Congress for permission, rather than acting unilaterally without any sort of Congressional authority to commence hostilities against another nation.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#17. To: James Deffenbach (#15)
So yeah, Obama is waging wars without any Congressional authorization whatsoever. BUT, as bad as THAT is, Romney will do worse than that. He'll ignite WWIII with reckless abandon in order to appease his Israeli/NWO masters. At least Obama has thus far refused to go along with that idea.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#18. To: Esso (#11)
Good point. Thanks. I think The People should have the most freedom of movement. They'd be the highest official powers. The so-called aristocrats should serve as their travel agents and ambassadors to negotiate the best routes for them to the other side's castles for vacations and meetings. As travel agents, they would both be limited to one space, non-diagonal moves. If there's a blockade for some reason, they could act temporarily as ambassadors and then move two spaces away from it if they can, non-diagonally, to find another route peacefully. The stately bishop-looking pieces could move one space diagonally as needed for ongoing-mediation of blockade situations so that the travel agent/ambassadors can be replaced to move along in better directions. If they all fail to reach a peaceful solution, The People could convene their own Congress or Parliament and discuss with those on the other side the possible movements of knights in traditional jumping moves over the heads of the opposition; but only to unoccupied, open spaces as war deterrent bases. If still no agreement can be reached short of storming the castles and The People of the other side by military force, game over before then and all the pieces go back by truce to their original positions -- even the knights. No peace prizes won by either side through war aggression or intractable disagreement but the players might attain some peace oriented diplomacy skills, nevertheless. That's a rough sketch but I'd like to see something like that marketed, along with championship matches for peace prize awards, as an alternative to Chess. I think the so-called pawns should be called The People and the other figures should be on the front lines guarding them.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#19. To: FormerLurker (#17)
Rand Paul offers exclusive sneak preview of Obama Romney debate at the March 2011 Congressional Correspondents' Awards Dinner. 1 minute video segment. Ron Paul 2012.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#20. To: FormerLurker (#17)
Yeah, whatever. I haven't had any of Obama's kook-aid and don't plan to drink any. He is the absolute WORST president--or "acting president_-- that has occupied the White House in my lifetime and I've seem some real doozies. Obama will attack whoever his owners tell him to attack and you can take that to the bank. Will Romney be any different? No, he will do whatever they tell him too. They are BOTH establishment puppets and I thought as smart as you are you would have known that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#21. To: James Deffenbach (#20)
I thought I made it clear I don't support Obama, but I also tried to make it clear no matter HOW bad Obama is, Romney will most certainly be worse. No, he will do whatever they tell him too. They are BOTH establishment puppets and I thought as smart as you are you would have known that.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: GreyLmist (#19)
And that's how just recently he showed his true colors and did another impression of Romney, this time demonstrating how Mittens flip flops on everything he says. Rand Paul offers exclusive sneak preview of Obama Romney debate
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#23. To: FormerLurker (#22)
Not that Obama has ever flipped on any statement he's made. Well, maybe there are just a FEW exceptions. During his 2008 campaign, didn't Barack Obama promise to conduct the "most transparent administration in history"? Executive privilege, affirmed by the Supreme Court in U.S. v. Nixon, is historically limited to the president's own discussions. Obama is now extending it to his attorney general. Expanding executive secrecy contravenes Obama's promises on transparency, but it's not the first time the president has betrayed his high-minded rhetoric. (Obviously a part of Obama's war on the transparency he promised) Obama's latest excuse against probing eligibility. What's Barack Obama's latest legal excuse against probing his eligibility to serve as president? He's not the nominee of the Democratic Party. That's what his attorneys argued in a hearing today [6/18/2012] [...] At least the hearing provided an opportunity for [Larry] Klayman to argue the eligibility case in a public setting — something Obama's attorneys, the media and the political establishment seem determined to prevent at all costs. Klayman accused the Obama attorneys of playing a "shell game" and trying to put off the issue, as numerous courts did in 2008 until the election was over and Obama was inaugurated. The Enigma That Is Barack Hussein Obama, Pre-Election To 2009. [Scroll down] Obama as a freshman Senator from Illinois went on a congressional fact finding tour to Perm Siberia in Russia with Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN) in 2005 to verify the destruction of mobile missiles and their launchers under the Cooperative Threat Reduction program (CTR). The trip was uneventful, that is, until it was time to depart the Russian military base where these inspections took place. All of a sudden, Barry and Senator Lugar were confronted and held by Russian authorities for three hours while the Russians sought permission to search the aircraft they were traveling in. Senator Lugar does not make any mention of this incident in his after-action trip report; the Chicago Tribune has a small blurb in passing on August 29, 2005. Numerous foreign news sources in Italy and other nations reveal that Barry was being held and questioned for espionage as being a spy for Britain. This is curious behavior from the Russians because the Cold War ended in 1991, and our nations have more to gain with mutual cooperation than hostility towards each other. Who is Barack Obama? As usual, when Obama is the subject, Americans can't count on the progressives in the Corporate Mainstream Media (CMM) for much help. [...] What happened next — after the inspections were over — was at the time reported by several foreign news sources but was never reported in the USA by the CMM. The Russians detained Obama and Lugar for three hours at the airport, demanding to examine both Obama's and Lugar's passports and search their plane. Some sources reported that the Russians accused Barack Obama of being a spy. But wait — there's more! According to an Italian source, the Russians did not accuse Obama of being an American spy; they accused him of being a spy for the British! The report went on to say that the incident ended up involving the White House, the U.S. State Department, and military officials, along with their counterparts in Moscow. Strangely enough, an official report from Lugar's office about the trip never mentioned the incident. Sealed records Who Is Barack Obama? The Question that Won't Go Away. Alternative sources of information are much more potent now than they were in 2008. It matters not if The New York Times closes ranks and buries a story. There are too many other instruments of disinterment. The news will out. And the more people know about Barack Obama, the more, I predict, they will wonder how this man became president of the United States. More at www.akdart.com/obama41.html And that's how just recently he showed his true colors and did another impression of Romney, this time demonstrating how Mittens flip flops on everything he says.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#24. To: James Deffenbach (#23) (Edited)
What it comes down to James, is whether or not you and your family are ready for nuclear Armageddon. Romney promises to start WWIII. At least Obama has resisted Israeli efforts to do so. It's a matter of whether you would rather have Stalin or Hitler as your president. You're screwed either way.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#25. To: FormerLurker (#24)
I don't want either one of the sob's and I can't imagine why anyone would talk either one of them up. People who are reasonably sane don't "prefer" communists or fascists to run the government or even to be the front men for those who do. It's a matter of whether you would rather have Stalin or Hitler as your president. You're screwed either way.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#26. To: James Deffenbach (#23)
Interesting newsitem, if so. Barry and Senator Lugar were confronted and held by Russian authorities for three hours while the Russians sought permission to search the aircraft they were traveling in. Senator Lugar does not make any mention of this incident in his after-action trip report; the Chicago Tribune has a small blurb in passing on August 29, 2005. Numerous foreign news sources in Italy and other nations reveal that Barry was being held and questioned for espionage as being a spy for Britain.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#27. To: James Deffenbach (#25)
It's a fact that we're going to be stuck with one or the other. Given THAT choice, who would you prefer? I don't want either one of the sob's and I can't imagine why anyone would talk either one of them up. People who are reasonably sane don't "prefer" communists or fascists to run the government or even to be the front men for those who do.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#28. To: James Deffenbach (#25)
So what do you suggest? What real options do we have, other than just giving up and not voting at all, or voting for some 3rd party candidate who has zero chance of being elected? People who are reasonably sane don't "prefer" communists or fascists to run the government or even to be the front men for those who do.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#29. To: FormerLurker (#27)
I would prefer they both decided that for the good of the country they wouldn't run. Not that that's going to happen. Given that, I won't vote for a fascist or a communist. You are free to do what you want of course. It's a fact that we're going to be stuck with one or the other. Given THAT choice, who would you prefer?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#30. To: FormerLurker (#28)
Well, how do you propose that you (and the rest of us) get what we do want, or say we want, if people like you keep voting for what they claim they don't want? I say "people like you" because I damned sure ain't the problem, I don't vote for scumbags like Obama and Romney. And from your posts it sounds like you are going to vote for the Kenyan even though you must know he is not even eligible. So what do you suggest? What real options do we have, other than just giving up and not voting at all, or voting for some 3rd party candidate who has zero chance of being elected?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#31. To: James Deffenbach (#30)
As I said yesterday, I plan on voting 3rd party, but if there's any chance of Romney getting elected, I may consider voting for the Kenyan for the simple reason I don't wish to see WWIII quite yet.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#32. To: FormerLurker, 4 (#31)
Even though I consider the mexican much more dangerous to the world than the kenyan, I'll vote L again this year. And then I'll wash my hands forever of national politics.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson
#33. To: Lod (#32)
Our country is pretty much finished, where every good thing about it has been crushed and our reputation across the world tarnished beyond repair. There was a day when people had higher principles and values, where even though politicians were most likely crooked, at least they'd publically follow the law in order to avoid impeachment or prison. Nowadays they get away with outright criminal actions and nobody even blinks about it anymore.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#34. To: FormerLurker (#21)
I tend to agree that mitt would be more prone to start ww3. But, as others pointed out, if/when the puppetmasters give the green light, ww3 will be regardless of who the puppet is..
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#35. To: FormerLurker (#31)
I plan on voting for the Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson. I read somewhere the other day that he will be on the ballot in all 50 states. I don't agree with him 100% but I agree with him a whole lot more than I do with the Kenyan and the Mormon. Both of those are non starters as far as I'm concerned. As I said yesterday, I plan on voting 3rd party, but if there's any chance of Romney getting elected, I may consider voting for the Kenyan for the simple reason I don't wish to see WWIII quite yet.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
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