“He has the delegates, but he doesn’t have the hearts and the minds of the people”
Steve Watson Infowars.com June 20, 2012
Congressman Ron Paul has appeared on two major news networks and declared that there is “no way” he will endorse Mitt Romney for president.
On last night’s Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer, Paul said that despite his own son’s endorsement for Romney, he would not be throwing his hat in with the former Massachusetts governor.
“Well, it looks like he has the delegates, yes,” Paul told Blitzer. “But he doesn’t have the control of the hearts and the minds of the people. And right now a lot of people — a lot of delegates who are pledged to vote for Romney are actually very strong supporters of ours and will be strongly supporting us when we want to put things into the platform that say, hey, we don’t need another war. Yes, we do need to audit the Federal Reserve. Yes, we ought to really cut spending.”
Despite assurances from Rand Paul last week that he had discussed the Romney endorsement with his father, the senior Paul said he was not ready to fade away and vowed to fight on with his campaign all the way to the convention, even though victory is now impossible.
“I think it’s legitimate for us to continue to debate,” Paul said. “I know they don’t want the debate at the convention. Everything has to be smooth and proper.”
“But, you know, I helped pay for the convention because the taxpayers pay Republicans $18 million-plus. And Obama gets $18 million plus to have these grand parties. I think we should be serious and discuss differences.”
The Congressman also declined to oppose a lawsuit that has been brought against the RNC by his supporters. The suit, challenges the GOP’s “binding delegate” rule that enforces delegates in certain states to vote for the candidate who won the state primary. It argues that delegates have the “Constitutional right to vote their conscience” at the national convention.
“If they have a legitimate argument that they can make and that’s what they want to do, I’m not going to say ‘Don’t do it’,” Paul said.
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Appearing on MSNBC’s Morning Joe today, Paul repeated that he would not endorse Romney.
“I would say he has core convictions, but I just disagree with them,” the Congressman said.
Paul also outlined his desires for the national convention, noting that although he will not have enough delegates to “take over the convention”, he would relish a speech on the floor or failing that an on site “meeting” to influence the party platform.
“All I want to do, if I don’t get a speech on the floor in the convention, all I want to do is have a meeting and say, ‘Look, we have numbers, we have people, we have enthusiasm, we believe in something. Why don’t you pay a little attention?’ And actually I think they are. They don’t know quite how to handle it.” Paul urged.
“I think [the GOP] has lost its way. I think a long time ago. I can’t see the difference” between Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush, Paul argued. “They’re both very militaristic, interventionist, pro-war… do Republicans really stop welfare expansion? No. Do they really cut back and balance the budget? No, they usually introduce bigger budgets.”
“When it comes to the philosophy of government, there’s not enough difference for me,” Paul concluded. “I would like to change those convictions of the Republican Party because there were times when they had much better positions. And there’s no reason why we can’t restore those and improve upon them.”
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
Very soon now it will be impossible for a Republican to win the presidency, never mind a Paul.
Paul's success is in a fact a symptom of decline. (As was Bush's, as was Reagan's.)
Our white sons are sent to war against non-whites who have done us no harm, and this is not called crime; at home, non-white criminals prey upon our wives and daughters and this is not called war.
“All I want to do, if I don’t get a speech on the floor in the convention, all I want to do is have a meeting and say, ‘Look, we have numbers, we have people, we have enthusiasm, we believe in something. Why don’t you pay a little attention?’ And actually I think they are. They don’t know quite how to handle it.” Paul urged.
Paul will get nothing.
Our white sons are sent to war against non-whites who have done us no harm, and this is not called crime; at home, non-white criminals prey upon our wives and daughters and this is not called war.
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
You're right about how screwed we are. It's a gang rape by both the gangs that run this joint.
But I think part of the establishment really wants to bounce O'bongo. Issa's going after his boy Eric the Red Holder. What Justice did running guns to Mejico was so insane and is so out there that it cannot be shoved under the carpet. Just hordes of regular folks are pissed off, and even "Weepers" Boehner is finally on board. The weak sisters among the Repub crown who have been wringing their hands about the "optics" of slinging muck at the poor Dems in an election year are being forced to put a sock in it.
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
Well, I am plenty pissed off and not just about F&F but about how professional stooges like this have been involved in other operations like Ruby Ridge, Waco and OK City.
Just once I wanna see one of these chumps take it on the jaw but good and I don't give a hoot who gives it to him. The Justice Department in this case was used as a conduit whereby crimes were suborned that would have put you or me way back in the jailhouse. Their own agency, the ATF woulda kicked your door down on a no-knock, shot your dog, terrorized your wife & kids and filed charges against you that would have left you a pauper for life - if you ever saw the light of day again.
The news is so full of shit these days, I want the satisfaction of a little gratuitous ass-kicking this summer. Just to liven things up a bit.
The Democrats could do very well if they secretly (i.e., without revealing they are Democrats) encourage and subsidize a third party run for Ron Paul. Effectively done, Ron Paul could siphon enough Conservative votes away from Romney to assure that Obama has a plurality, if not a majority. It may work out that every dollar spent supporting a Ron Paul run would be more effective than two dollars spent advertising for Obama directly.
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
“I think it’s legitimate for us to continue to debate,” Paul said. “I know they don’t want the debate at the convention. Everything has to be smooth and proper.”
“But, you know, I helped pay for the convention because the taxpayers pay Republicans $18 million-plus. And Obama gets $18 million plus to have these grand parties. I think we should be serious and discuss differences.”
Noting that his above comments and more on that subject during the CNN Blitzer interview are at 6:56-7:41 of the first posted video.
In the next video, he comments on that again during the MSNBC interview at 9:19- 10:35.
This is a FoxNews.com article published November 09, 2011:
The Federal Election Commission announced this week that each major party has received $17.7 million for the 2012 conventions, and that another $600,000 or so could be forked over in early 2012.
In exchange for the money, the respective political committees are held to certain rules
i.e. Claims that the parties are private clubs and that their nomination elections for the Federal office of President are their own business, exempt from FEC regs = not so.
11 CFR 100.2(e): [sic] A caucus or convention of a political party is an election if the caucus or convention has the authority to select a nominee for federal office on behalf of that party."
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42 USC 1971 - Sec. 1971. Voting rights: [sic] "No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President"
The Republican party is [My note: somewhat] a private party. A legal voter/delegate is also considered a private party. These private parties are separately governed by numerous federal and state laws (depending on their location).
The Republican National Convention; however, is a federal election made up of multiple private parties which serve to nominate a candidate for the office of the Presidency (which is a federal office position).
The Republican National Convention itself is a federal election bound by federal laws.
These two federal laws alone SHOULD prove that no state law or private party rule can force an individual to vote against their own free will for any federal election.
Another discussion at dailypaul.com suggests that the Lawyers for Ron Paul lawsuit be inclusive of claimants regarding the Electoral College, as those assemblies might also have been rigged through coercion, intimidation, and uncounted votes in the delegate election process, affecting the outcome of which electors were chosen by delegates or not to be Electoral College representatives of their States for the national election in November.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Paul's success is in a fact a symptom of decline. (As was Bush's, as was Reagan's.)
Paul's success is a symptom of the optimistic immaturity and absolute gullibility of the 50% that still vote for charlatans. I can't keep from feeling sick to my stomach watching adults being abused by those charged with protecting their rights, over decades, that don't have the sense an abused kid has that runs away from home.
Anyone actually straining to find cause for voting for the Muslim or the Mormon is certifiably insane and should be kept in a rubber room because they endanger the public.
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
#15. To: noone222, Jethro Tull, Christine, Phant2000, randge (#14)
Paul's success is a symptom of the optimistic immaturity and absolute gullibility of the 50% that still vote for charlatans.
Of the current crop of charlatans now holding sway in Washington, those in and out of power, the one I have the most concern about, is Rand Paul.
For months now I have had the feeling that he is the wolf parading in sheeps clothing. The entire Paul operation now smells to high heaven and it is time for people to stand back and take a more in depth view of these people.
Putting blind faith IN ANY POLITICIAN IS FOOL HARDY. At least ignore the Pied Piper long enough to make sure of their allegiance.
In endorsing Romney, who has learned nothing from a decade of futile and draining wars, the younger Paul is going along, but one wonders how far along it will get him. By tying himself to a loser like Romney, the ambitious Rand is likely to cut himself off from the very elements he’s seeking to appeal to — who were never that enthralled with Romney to begin with, and still aren’t.
In the meantime, Sen. Paul is alienating his national base — and, worse, splitting and disorienting the movement his father built. It is an absolute disgrace, and one that will not go unchallenged. If the good Senator thinks blood is thicker than ideology in libertarian circles, he is very much mistaken. In a movement devoted to individual liberty, the idea of a hereditary leadership seems more than a bit odd: by endorsing Romney, he has forfeited his claim to lead what he calls the “liberty movement.” He has, in short, become just another Republican Senator, albeit one with a particularly lean and hungry look.
It doesn't mean a wit who RP, or his p**ck kid endorses, to the majority people who have helped to create the movement, Romney isn't an option. The above comment is from Justin Raimondo, and it's dead on.
#17. To: Jethro Tull, Phant2000, Christine, Rubes (#16)
It doesn't mean a wit who RP, or his p**ck kid endorses, to the majority people who have helped to create the movement,
Perhaps.
Remember however that the huge majority of Paul supporters were and are republicans as is Ron Paul. Any attempt by the movement to hold Ron Paul above this sordid affair is ludicrous.
If they are not careful, by splitting the movement, they may well be ensuring the election of Obongo.
The Pauls are marching together, side by side, Father and son, republican and republican til the day they die.
My evidence would be taken from the Paul folks on this board, and those I'm still in communication with. They aren't Republicans and won't be voting for Romney.
#19. To: Jethro Tull, Phant2000, Christine, Rubes (#18)
My evidence would be taken from the Paul folks on this board, and those I'm still in communication with. They aren't Republicans and won't be voting for Romney.
It would indeed be a Saintly Father that would disavow his sons desire and possibility to become President of the United States.
Think what one may, Ron Paul is still driving the bandwagon and Rand is right there with him.
All Ron has to do to quiet the supporters is DISAVOW Rand and his support of Oromney.
HE WILL NOT JETHRO, he will never do that to his Son.
To me , the Pauls and Oromney have handled this rather poorly. It should have been Ron demanding his pound of flesh, instead Rand went for public consumption and it all came off poorly.
I don't have to strain for a reason to vote Obama.
He will help destroy the anti-white system faster.
No anti-white Republican should be permitted to win.
That includes Paul.
Our white sons are sent to war against non-whites who have done us no harm, and this is not called crime; at home, non-white criminals prey upon our wives and daughters and this is not called war.
For months now I have had the feeling that he is the wolf parading in sheeps clothing. The entire Paul operation now smells to high heaven and it is time for people to stand back and take a more in depth view of these people.
They ought to use a scope !
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
Anyone actually straining to find cause for voting for the Muslim or the Mormon is certifiably insane and should be kept in a rubber room because they endanger the public.
As Devon says, TESTIFY!!!
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