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Title: ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013?
Source: dailypaul
URL Source: http://www.dailypaul.com/223261/oba ... ch-23rd-2013?fwcc=1&fwcl=1&fwl
Published: Jun 28, 2012
Author: celeste
Post Date: 2012-06-28 13:19:13 by Itistoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 536
Comments: 29

"Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a “non-discussed” section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as: “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.” In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country. http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf

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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

What will they do if we refuse?

sizzlerguy  posted on  2012-06-28   13:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Itistoolate  posted on  2012-06-28   14:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Bump! Well worth pointing out.

purplerose  posted on  2012-06-28   14:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

Class III devices are pacemakers and such. The most restrictive devices. These can already be easily detected with or without RFID markers, like by the TSA at airports

"Examples of Class II devices include powered wheelchairs, infusion pumps, and surgical drapes."

This is just the usual Alex Jones conspiracy crap.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-28   14:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This is just the usual Alex Jones conspiracy crap.

waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf

Conspiracy? Conspiracy is to those promoting the healthcare initiative who would rather not discuss pg 1001.

Need to read that section carefully there. It's not crap anymore. It's becoming reality.

purplerose  posted on  2012-06-28   14:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

if it's Alex Jones conspiracy crap, then why is it posted on the Daily Paul?

christine  posted on  2012-06-28   14:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

if it's Alex Jones conspiracy crap, then why is it posted on the Daily Paul?

Because the Paul movement was infiltrated by the Truthers and other assorted Alex Jones nutjobs. I always said they were nothing but trouble for the Liberty movement and I have been proven correct at every juncture at which they raised their voices.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-28   15:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Obviously, you did not read that info from the Way and Means Committee site I just posted.

purplerose  posted on  2012-06-28   15:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The definition of Class III and implantable Class II devices is not in question.

But feel free to argue with yourself about it.

And it's still a complete crackpot article. This is at least the third or fourth go-round for this piece of AJ crapola.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-28   15:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Alex Jones is not a member of the Ways and Means Committee and he did not write this mandate.

purplerose  posted on  2012-06-28   15:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I question your reading ability. The portion of the law governs tracking information for implantable Class II and Class III medical devices (pacemakers, screws, braces, plates, etc.).

It does not mandate an implanted RFID chip in every American though I'm sure Alex Jones would be very happy if you believe that nonsense.

You can call up Alex Jones and cry to him that some mean scoffer is still literate enough to fail to take his word for these things.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-28   15:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You can call up Alex Jones and cry to him that some mean scoffer is still literate enough to fail to take his word for these things.

Why don't you contact the Way and Means Office switchboard in Washington D.C. and inquire on that mandate yourself, Agent TooConservative. And when you do, get a list of those members of the committee who voted "yay or nay" on this controversial bill.

purplerose  posted on  2012-06-28   16:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-06-28   16:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-06-28   16:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It may be crap as you say, but recognize that the implantable RFID chip is a Class II device all by itself.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-28   16:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Over a million people/day will need to be implanted to achieve this goal, starting .... NOW!

I'm going to send them over to your house first, Eric.

Hide, hide under your bed from the RFID Implantation Overlords.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-28   16:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It may be crap as you say, but recognize that the implantable RFID chip is a Class II device all by itself.

You often have multiple Class II devices implanted in a single surgical session.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-28   16:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

RFID Chips to be Implanted

Could this be a proverbial "Mark of the Beast" we've heard tell of?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-06-28   17:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

implantable RFID chip

It's the "Mark of the Beast". ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-06-28   17:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You often have multiple Class II devices implanted in a single surgical session.

I do? When did that happen?

They must have snuck up on me while I was sleepin'. Bastards.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-06-28   17:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you tune in AJ, he can tell you how to detect whether they have been anally probing you in your sleep to implant their mind-dominating RFID doohickeys.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-28   18:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What will they do if we refuse?

Nothing because the choice is ours and not theirs, to make.

I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-06-28   19:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the choice is ours

Is anyone else out there in 4um land seriously considering packing up your bags and leaving this socialist nation?

sizzlerguy  posted on  2012-06-28   21:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

mind-dominating RFID doohickeys

Maybe you had one implanted unknowingly and that's why you doubt the existence of conspiracies and see no sense in the truth?

I mean... it's possible.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-28   22:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

PurpleRose - others.. as much as I despise obama and his satanic bunch after reading the part of the document I understand it to mean the registry will contain info about devices "used in or on a patient" - model, type serial# etc. This is going to be a database of information about medical hardware.

I wouldn't be surprised to see obama, congress and the US Communitarian Not-So-Supreme Mafia Court use it to somehow legally justify the implantation of rfid devices. But as written, it does not specify that such action.

‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22 ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the 23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and 24 outcomes data on each device that— 25 ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and 8 Services, the head of the Office of the National Coordi9 nator for Health Information Technology, and the Sec10 retary of Veterans Affairs, determine the best methods 11 for— 12 ‘‘(A) including in the registry, in a manner con13 sistent with subsection (f), appropriate information 14 to identify each device described in paragraph (1) by 15 type, model, and serial number or other unique iden16 tifier; 17 ‘‘(B) validating methods for analyzing patient 18 safety and outcomes data from multiple sources and 19 for linking such data with the information included 20 in the registry as described in subparagraph (A), in21 cluding, to the extent feasible, use of— 22 ‘‘(i) data provided to the Secretary under 23 other provisions of this chapter; and 24 ‘‘(ii) information from public and private 25 sources identified under paragraph (3);

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2012-06-29   0:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Because the Paul movement was infiltrated by the Truthers and other assorted Alex Jones nutjobs.

You got it backwards. The "Paul Movement", really the "Liberty Movement", is being infiltrated by Republican blowhards just like they infiltrated the tea-party movement and made them practically worthless today. 9/11 truthers built the modern day "Liberty Movement" because they seek freedom from the lies and corruption that is so evident from the events of 9/11 and the government's massive cover-up of it.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-06-29   1:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

9/11 truthers built the modern day "Liberty Movement" because they seek freedom from the lies and corruption that is so evident from the events of 9/11 and the government's massive cover-up of it.

No, Truthers built their own massively-rejected Truth movement. They failed.

Many of the same people, knowing they were rejected by the public, latched on to Ron Paul and have tried to drive their own agenda instead of his. Alex Jones was a ringleader in drawing this element into the Liberty movement.

I expect this will continue now and the Liberty movement will be no more than a forgotten exercise in wingnuttery in the next few years. Akin to the failed Perot and his Reform Party but far less successful.

Anyway, you guys can Truth out all you want over the corpse of the Liberty movement. The rest of us won't be there in your cozy Circle of Truthiness. Some won't turn out to vote LP and Gary Johnson, the more Religious Right types will go to the Constitution Party and vote for Virgil Goode (the CP is largely composed of old Reform Party types). In the end, the vote totals will amount to less than million votes combined.

Notice the two Lefty candidates (Nader, McKinney) had a vote total of 900K while the two Right candidates (Barr, Baldwin) had a vote total of 720K.

And I think you'll fare worse in 2012, a year for partisan hacks on steroids.

Hell, even Ron Paul is avoiding your Paul rally at Tampa. Just as he is avoiding the Libertarian ploy to holding a competing rally to pick off Paul supporters to support Gary Johnson.

So go ahead and see if you can push Johnson into your Quest For Truth. Might be entertaining to watch Gary's reaction. Maybe you can manage to push his vote take from Barr's 2008 total of 500K down to 200K. Or lower. What a victory for Truth!

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-29   6:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Maybe you had one implanted unknowingly and that's why you doubt the existence of conspiracies and see no sense in the truth? I mean... it's possible.

Ah, that would be it.

If people disagree with you, it can only be because THEY have anally implanted them with a mind-controlling RFID chip.

Why didn't I see it before? Doh!

TooConservative  posted on  2012-06-29   6:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why didn't I see it before? Doh!

Life's little paradoxes... so much we don't know...

wudidiz  posted on  2012-06-29   9:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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