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Title: "Fiscal conservative" Rand Paul pledges $9+ Billion to Israel on the backs of American taxpayers
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Published: Jul 12, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-07-12 13:33:41 by Artisan
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Romney Lapdog Joins Criminal Senate, Guarantees $9 Billion Dollars (plus interest) in Loans to Israel in six second voice vote Have you heard about the the "United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012"? It was introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer on 3/6/12 with 71 Cosponsors. The House passed their version [H.R.4133] on May 9, pledging unlimited loyalty and riches to our "special friend" Israel, with only two congressman dissenting- Ron Paul and Democrat John Dingell of Michigan. The U.S. Senate passed their version on Friday June 29, 2012. Known in the Senate as S.2165, the measure guaranteed an astonishing $9 billion dollars in loans to Israel (plus all fees and interest!) in addition to giving "military assistance- stockpiles of defense articles" valued at $200 million for 2013 and $200 million for 2014. Boxer praised passage of the bill, stating "I am so pleased that the Senate moved quickly to pass this important bill, which reaffirms the important bond between the United States and Israel and helps ensure that Israel has the necessary tools to defend itself in this time of dynamic change in the Middle East." Initially seeking documentation of which way turncoat Rand Paul voted on this treasonous bill, I tried to find the roll call votes. But as Harry Reid pointed out during the session, "THE NEXT ROLL CALL VOTE WILL BE AT NOON ON TUESDAY, JULY 10". The Senators passed this bill anonymously, in a so-called "voice vote"! According to the Senate website, a "voice vote" is "A vote in which the presiding officer states the question, then asks those in favor and against to say "Yea" or "Nay," respectively, and announces the result according to his or her judgment. The names or numbers of senators voting on each side are not recorded.". After tracking down the actual video of this travesty, which was no easy task- (they seem to make these things hard to find on purpose)- it was like watching something straight out of the twilight zone. Two old guys in suits mumbling under their breath in a strange monotone fashion, with the entire U.S. Senate taking literally less than six seconds total to squander 9 BILLION DOLLARS from the American people. A true outrage. They did not even call out each Senators name so that their constituents can hear whether they voted yea or nay. You can watch the actual specific clip of this insane exchange now: [Direct link here.] Below is the transcript. Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada 05:58:5622 sec. THE PRESIDING OFFICER 05:59:0321 sec. MR. REID 05:59:1015 sec. THE PRESIDING OFFICER Confirming Rand Paul's support of this bill was Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who said "I am very pleased that this important piece of legislation passed quickly and unanimously in the Senate today, demonstrating the United States' strong, unwavering commitment to Israel and its security and self-defense." The bill will soon be sent to Obama for his signature. By going to http://thomas.loc.gov and typing the term United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 in the search box, one can read full details on both the house and senate versions of this bill. The Senate version summary states that The law required that a Senate report be done on the bill. On June 27, two days before the voice vote, Skull and bones member John Kerry presented the obligatory "written report No. 112-179". A perusal of that extremely scant document reveals that no real effort was taken to compile anything of substance in the report other than to continue bankrolling Israel. The report [PDF] did acknowledge, however, "efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas." Kerrys' report began with lies demonizing Iran: "SECTION 2. FINDINGS. This section provides several findings, including: that there is a special bond between the United States and Israel; that the Middle East is undergoing rapid change; that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to foment instability in the region; that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to enrich uranium in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions; that a nuclear-weapons capable Iran would threaten vital United States interests; and that the authority to make available loan guarantees to Israel is currently set to expire on September 30, 2012." The report states "That the interest rate for loans guaranteed under this heading may include a reasonable fee to cover the costs and fees incurred by the borrower in connection with this program", but then goes on to state "That funds made available for assistance to Israel under chapter 4 of part II of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, as amended, may be utilized by the Government of Israel to pay such fees to the United States Government"! So we can charge them interest and fees on the $9 billion dollars, but then let them use our money to pay the fees! What could America, or the American people who supposedly elected these rats, possibly gain from this crazy alliance? More excerpts of interest from the report below. Martin Hill is a Catholic paleoconservative and civil rights advocate. His work has been featured on LewRockwell.com, WhatReallyHappened, Infowars, PrisonPlanet, National Motorists Association, WorldNetDaily, The Orange County Register, KNBC4 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Catholic Lay Mission Newspaper, KFI 640, The Press Enterprise, Antiwar.com, IamtheWitness.com, FreedomsPhoenix, Rense, BlackBoxVoting, and many others. Archives can be found at LibertyFight.com SECTION 5. ADDITIONAL STEPS TO DEFEND ISRAEL AND PROTECT AMERICAN INTERESTS. This section would amend the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005, to extend authority to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense items to Israel. The section would also amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to provide extended authority to make additions to foreign-based defense stockpiles through 2014, and the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003, to extend specified loan guarantee authority to Israel. As noted in section 2 of the bill, the authority provided by the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003, as amended, would otherwise expire on September 30, 2012 SECTION 6. REPORTS REQUIRED. This section requires several reports on previously enacted provisions of law, and otherwise. The first is a report on the status of Israel's qualitative military edge. The second is a report on actions that could improve the process related to Israel's purchase of F-35 aircraft. The third is a report on efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas. The fourth is a report on actions to integrate Israel into the defense of the Eastern Mediterranean CHAPTER 2--MILITARY ASSISTANCE LOAN GUARANTEES TO ISRAEL >
U.S. Senate also acknowledges "efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas." 05:58:3023 sec.
THE CLERK
CALENDAR NUMBER 437, S. 2165, A BILL TO ENHANCE STRATEGIC COOPERATION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
05:58:3918 sec.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE SENATE WILL PROCEED TO THE MEASURE.
05:58:4326 sec.
MR. PRESIDENT, I FURTHER ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE-REPORTED SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT BE AGREED, THE BILL AS AMEND BE READ A THIRD TIME, PASSED, THE SENATE PROCEED...
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS
THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS MR. PRESIDENT. I ASK THAT THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID ON THE TABLE,.
WITHOUT OBJECTION.
Several other alleged small-government "Tea Party" types supported this bill as well, including Freshman Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who was a cosponsor of the bill, and Congressman Justin Amash, who voted for the House version of the bill on May 9th. In reality, it is absurd to contend that anyone who even nods to the notion of limited Constitutional government would for one second consider guaranteeing $9 billion dollars in loans to anyone, ever. "it is U.S. policy to: (1) reaffirm the commitment to Israel's security as a Jewish state, (2) provide Israel with the military capabilities to defend itself and help preserve its qualitative military edge, (3) expand military and civilian cooperation, (4) assist in a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that results in two states living side by side in peace and security, and (5) encourage Israel's neighbors to recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.
Expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified actions to assist in Israel's defense.
Amends the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005 to extend authority to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense (DOD) items to Israel.
Amends the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to extend authority to make additions to foreign-based defense stockpiles.
Amends the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003 to extend specified loan guarantee authority to Israel.
SECTION 4. SENSE OF CONGRESS This section expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified actions to assist in Israel's defense, among which are: providing the Government of Israel support necessary to enhance development and increase production of joint missile defense systems; providing the Government of Israel appropriate defense articles and defense services through appropriate mechanisms; examining ways to strengthen existing security initiatives and bilateral training exercises; and encouraging an expanded role for Israel with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
(2)(A) The value of such additions to stockpiles of defense articles in foreign countries shall not exceed $200,000,000 for each of 5fiscal years 2011 and 20126 fiscal years 2013 and 2014
During the period beginning March 1, 2003, and ending September 30, 2007, loan guarantees may be made available to Israel, guaranteeing 100 percent of the principal and interest on such loans, the principal amount, any part of which is to be guaranteed, not to exceed $9,000,000,000, of which up to $3,000,000,000 may be issued prior to October 1, 2003, or thereafter and of which $3,000,000,000 may be issued subsequent to September 30, 2015: Provided, That such guarantees shall constitute obligations, in accordance with the terms of such guarantees, of the United States and the full faith and credit of the United States is hereby pledged for the full payment and performance of such obligations
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#1. To: Artisan (#0)
Sux to be an Amerikan Taxpayer. "In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison." Thoreau
Looks like a law respecting an establishment of religion to me. This in a country subject to the sort of cultural tyranny that sees students punished for saying "bless you" in class. This POS rand paul deserves to be publicly shamed and scorned at every opportunity.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
I wonder if they will have to pay the loan back?
They are all of them on my shit list.
true, but i find it particularly eggregious when someone claims to be 'one of us'and then stabs us in the back. he deceived all the people who gve him money and put him into office. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
i doubt it.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
I have never trusted that man myself.
the rand paul deception returned over 130K hits in .22 seconds, though many were the same result. that fruit fell quite a distance from the tree. To succeed in life, you need three things; a wishbone, a backbone, and a funnybone ~ Reba McEntire
Nothing---NOTHING--should ever be passed by voice vote. They should always have to record their vote so that their constituents know how they voted on every issue if they care to take the time to check it. This voice vote stuff is BS and should not be allowed.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
More treason! "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
How would we the people ever know??? And I can assume any politician or DC staffer who tried to find out would be labeled an anti semite. Agreeded. Their is no accountability with a voice vote, the pol can say he voted any way he thinks his stooges, er constituents, want him too. It is intentionally deceitful and un American. I want a million or so for MY security. When are they going to give me MY interest free "loan"? I'll promise to vote for Rand Paul if and when he runs for president, IF he gives me my million dollars. That is what we deserve when we have Senators and Congressmen sitting there for fifty years. We, the voters are stupid, gullible and naive, AND THOSE PEOPLE KNOW IT.
We, the voters are stupid, gullible and naive, AND THOSE PEOPLE KNOW IT. With the primary educational textbook system being captured by a few mega corporations that seem to be welded to the political elite that DO NOT desire the American hoi-polli to get any more than enough education to be clerks and laborers AND a militarily owned Media, most average Americans never had a chance. So, I know what you mean, C, but I do not blame the voters. They are confused and frightened and deceived. i agree with you.
we are now receiving a lot of mail from republicans--thanks to the fact that we held our noses and registered republican to vote for Paul in the primary. ugh.
And stupid. Booby Hatch was returned easily in his primary. What is it that educated adults do NOT understand about leaving people in power for 50 years. That concept is not that difficult to understand. We DO NOT ALLOW THE PRESIDENT TO STAY FOR LIFE. In my many years in dirty politics, my cohort and I were non partisan and our motto was, "if you are in office, you need to leave and find an honest job". With that approach, people would vote every time with us. Voters have to believe that for once they have a voice.
I am voteing for whomever is the candidate is from Mars. At least it will be an honest Fig Leaf. he just keeps going down in my book.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
I usually don't ask a question unless I already know the answer. I'd say he has all the markings of a man planning on running for president in the coming decade.
Some people say that there is nothing rand could have done to prevent this. but his father gave a speech about the house version of the same bill, very much against it. Look at what rand had to say about israel 'welfare' in 2011: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel (2/4/11) Paul also defended his calls to end aid to Israel, saying they’re just part of his bigger efforts at fiscal responsibility. “I’m not singling out Israel. I support Israel. I want to be known as a friend of Israel, but not with money you don’t have,” he said. “We can’t just borrow from our kids’ future and give it to countries, even if they are our friends.” And, he said, giving money to the country is especially unwise considering Israel’s relative wealth. “I think they’re an important ally, but I also think that their per capita income is greater than probably three-fourths of the rest of the world,” he said. “Should we be giving free money or welfare to a wealthy nation? I don’t think so.” ALSO: Rand Paul Slams Obama, Defends Israel Rand Paul Warns He Might Hijack Senate Floor Over Pakistan Aid "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Rand Paul's Stance on Israel a Lesson for the Liberty Movement to ...
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
seems like it was Rand's support for Israel was the first clue I had that he was not his father. things have just gone down hill from there.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
Farm... Your observation is true, rest assured however, that the view is for public consumption. Ron Paul and his son are in complete agreement on present and future strategy, BOWING TO ISRAEL, is one of them. Whether a person continues to support Ron Paul has nothing to do with what the two of them are planning in concert. Like any Father, Ron would be pleased to have his son one day be President of this country. Cutting corners or changing strategy and allegiance will not be allowed to thwart their goal.
you won't hear me arguing against you on that one. Edit: I quoted you Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
It looks like this farce was passed by just one vote -- Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid's [of Nevada] -- and no objection from the "Presiding Officer". Reid and whoever the "Presiding Officer" was aren't a legit quorum but where was VP Biden as President Pro Tempore of the Senate in case there had been an objecting tie vote from the "Presiding Officer"? Where was Rand Paul and everybody else? Edited for grammar, bracketed insert and spacing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
"Fiscal conservative" Rand Paul pledges $9+ Billion to Israel on the backs of American taxpayers
#2. To: Artisan (#0)
it is U.S. policy to: (1) reaffirm the commitment to Israel's security as a Jewish state
#3. To: randge (#2)
#4. To: Artisan (#0)
#5. To: Artisan (#3)
#6. To: randge (#5)
#7. To: octavia (#4)
#8. To: Artisan (#6)
#9. To: Artisan, 4 (#6)
he deceived all the people who gave him money and put him into office.
#10. To: Artisan (#0)
#11. To: Artisan, All (#0)
#12. To: noone222 (#1)
#13. To: Artisan (#3)
#14. To: randge (#5)
#15. To: octavia (#4)
#16. To: James Deffenbach (#10)
#17. To: James Deffenbach, All (#10)
#18. To: Artisan (#0)
"Fiscal conservative" Rand Paul pledges $9+ Billion to Israel
#19. To: octavia (#4)
I wonder if they will have to pay the loan back?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#20. To: James Deffenbach (#10)
Nothing---NOTHING--should ever be passed by voice vote. They should always have to record their vote so that their constituents know how they voted on every issue if they care to take the time to check it. This voice vote stuff is BS and should not be allowed.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#21. To: Artisan (#0)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: tom007 (#20)
It is intentionally deceitful
#23. To: Cynicom (#22)
That is what we deserve when we have Senators and Congressmen sitting there for fifty years.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#24. To: Artisan (#3)
#25. To: Artisan, Cynicom (#6)
#26. To: tom007 (#23)
They are confused and frightened and deceived.
#27. To: christine (#25)
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#28. To: Artisan (#0)
#29. To: Eric Stratton (#15)
#30. To: farmfriend, christine (#28)
#31. To: Artisan (#30)
www.rlc.org/2010/06/05/libertarian-defense-of-israel/
#32. To: octavia (#29)
#33. To: Artisan (#30)
#34. To: farmfriend (#33)
seems like it was Rand's support for Israel was the first clue I had that he was not his father. things have just gone down hill from there.
#35. To: Cynicom (#34)
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#36. To: Artisan, All (#0)
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS
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