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Title: Ron Paul: I ‘Have Not’ Decided If I'll Vote for Romney
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URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic ... ecided-if-ill-vote-for-romney/
Published: Jul 20, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-07-20 16:09:20 by Artisan
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Views: 1191
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Ron Paul, who is still technically running for the Republican nomination, says he has not decided whether or not he’ll vote for Mitt Romney. “I have not made a decision,” Paul told Fox Business Network’s Liz Claman and David Asman. When asked what he thinks about Romney as a candidate for president, Paul responded, “Compared to whom? He certainly offers different things than the current president. But the current conditions make it rough for anyone. They are going to have a very though job.” Paul and Romney reportedly struck up a friendly rapport on the campaign trail, The New York Times noted in February. Continue reading at ABC News Poster Comment: bwahahahaha!
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#9. To: FormerLurker (#1)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
Yeah, at this point ... . Har T har har har har.....
At the convention it will be kisses and smoochies all around.
New law allows Israeli Air Force easy opportunity for a false flag in United States "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
I'm certainly glad I didn't send him any money this time. Don't want to be on the wrong sort of "list".
http://whatreallyhappened.com/n ode/179812 Yep, a perfect setup for a "muzzie terra attack". I was certainly disappointed when it became apparent that Ron was just another tool of the establishment, but not all that surprised. I think ANYONE who can get elected to a national office is bought off. That, or my theory that aliens have infiltrated our world at all levels is actually true, where they are setting things in motion for global human extinction so that they can take all they desire with absolutely no resistance. If our leaders were actual human beings with minds that functioned correctly, they'd see the treachery perpetrated by Israel, and if anything, treat Israel as they did Iraq and Afghanistan. At minimum they'd enforce sanctions against it, and giving them money and weapons would be seen as an act of treason against the US. What does it take to convince people that all FEDS are shit ?
"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison." Thoreau
To succeed in life, you need three things; a wishbone, a backbone, and a funnybone ~ Reba McEntire
Take away their football and Buttwiper beer. You saw what happened when Congress tried to run Roger Clemens' hide up the flagpole: the jury said "NOT GUILTY!".
#10. To: Eric Stratton, Artisan (#8)
i think it is sort of funny.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#11. To: Artisan (#0)
bwahahahaha!
#12. To: wudidiz (#3)
#13. To: Eric Stratton, wudidiz, formerlurker, randge (#7)
http://whatreallyhappened.com/n ode/179812
#14. To: Artisan (#4)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#15. To: Artisan (#13)
New law allows Israeli Air Force easy opportunity for a false flag in United States
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#16. To: Eric Stratton (#9)
Exactly why I say that the lot of 'em, despite my having held out hope for Ron, are pigs down to the one of 'em!!!
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#17. To: Artisan (#0)
#18. To: Artisan, rip, 4 (#0)
#19. To: noone222, Artisan (#17)
What does it take to convince people that all FEDS are shit ?
-Alex Kurtagic
#20. To: Lod (#18) (Edited)
always look for the union label
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
#21. To: Artisan, FormerLurker, randge, Eric Stratton, christine, Original_Intent (#13)
Look who has put your article up on their facebook page:
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#22. To: FormerLurker (#1)
Trust not one congressman. Not one. It's becoming apparent that RP isn't the man many people thought he was.
I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.
#23. To: Lod (#18)
I was lookin for an empty Schlitz, but there wasn't one in reach. Stand by your man
#24. To: Artisan (#4)
I began having questions, which I have not voiced that much, as far back as 2008. I just didn't know whether it was because he was under duress or a willing participant. His being a Mason does trouble me. I do not think Masons are necessarily evil, but that they will, by their oath, favor their "Lodge Brothers" first and above all other considerations of rightness and justice. Witness "Jack The Ripper". by the way, i believe the evidence does show that paul is indeed a mason. some people may not care but the fact is, they are not trustworthy. I am glad to say that i publicly disavowed ron paul and withdrew my endorsement of him early this year when he tried to justify killing unborn babies. I was appalled. what a lunatic peice of trash that family is. good grief
#25. To: Artisan (#0)
that's an example of skirting the question if i ever saw one.... Paul responded, “Compared to whom? He certainly offers different things than the current president. But the current conditions make it rough for anyone. They are going to have a very though job.”
#26. To: christine (#25)
The Pauls have squandered a large portion of the influence they could have had. If Rice is picked, the Pauls fall way down the list. that's an example of skirting the question if i ever saw one....
#27. To: Artisan, all (#0)
Ah, good, I see I am not the only one here who is having doubts about Ron Paul. lol I am of the opinion now that they control all exits unfortunately. The likes of Alex Jones are only the more obvious kind of Cointelpro...
Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!
#28. To: irishthatcherite, 4 (#27)
My only hope is that the ideas and ideals espoused (if not practiced) by Dr.Paul live on... And that's all I've got to say about that ~ Forrest Gump
To succeed in life, you need three things; a wishbone, a backbone, and a funnybone ~ Reba McEntire
#29. To: Lod (#28)
I am in agreement. My only hope is that the ideas and ideals espoused (if not practiced) by Dr.Paul live on...
Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!
#30. To: wudidiz (#21)
thats interesting, thanks. the US State dept., US Dept of Justice, and the US House of Reps ISPs have all visited the page since yesterday. I thought that was damn funny.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#31. To: Artisan (#30)
It'd be funnier if it wasn't so scary.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#32. To: wudidiz (#31)
it's fascinating that they spend their time scouring the internet reading articles exposing how they are going to conduct false flags. I wonder what they do with the articles?? first congress (bitch randy, perhaps?), then an hour later the u.s. secretary of state, & later that evening the us justice dept. damn the internet is great. LoL!! You cant make this shit up.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#33. To: FormerLurker (#1)
He has proven to be the man I knew him to be. Ron Paul for President. It's becoming apparent that RP isn't the man many people thought he was.
#34. To: Artisan (#4)
When did this happen? I read everything I can find about Ron Paul, have watched all or at least most of his floor speeches and read his column every week. I am glad to say that i publicly disavowed ron paul and withdrew my endorsement of him early this year when he tried to justify killing unborn babies.
#35. To: carenotus (#34)
My recollection is that he dodged the question by saying that abortion was a states' rights issue. Personally, he stated that he'd never performed one.
To succeed in life, you need three things; a wishbone, a backbone, and a funnybone ~ Reba McEntire
#36. To: carenotus, Artisan (#34) (Edited)
carenotus: When did this happen? I read everything I can find about Ron Paul, have watched all or at least most of his floor speeches and read his column every week. Ron Paul said in a (February?) CNN interview with Piers Morgan that he would administer an estrogen shot (which could prevent fertilization/pregnancy) if a woman who was raped went immediately to the emergency room. He did not say that he would do that if any test evidence indicated there was a pregnancy. Because tests that early wouldn't be a guarantee that no pregnancy had occurred yet, he was pilloried as ok with abortion -- at least in those uncertain cases. He also said in a Jay Leno interview that he wouldn't ban the morning after pill -- said the abortion issue would be solved by people's morality changing, not the laws. Also (not being a Catholic), he prescribed birth control as a doctor and said during the Leno interview that he had. Then he was pilloried as eugenicist like George H. W. Bush. Ref. 4um Title: Ron Paul is okay with early term abortions and the abortion pill. Will 'principled pro-lifers' still support him? Edited next to last sentence. Artisan: I am glad to say that i publicly disavowed ron paul and withdrew my endorsement of him early this year when he tried to justify killing unborn babies.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#37. To: carenotus (#33)
He has proven to be the man I knew him to be. And what sort of man is that? Ron Paul for President. He's pretty much abandoned any chance of that happening...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#38. To: wudidiz (#32)
dang, and now my website is gone. i guess it will be back in a few days. :-(
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#39. To: carenotus, Phant2000 (#33)
Lot of people wish they knew more about him, sooner, saved a lot of money from going down a black hole. He has proven to be the man I knew him to be.
#40. To: Artisan (#38)
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"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#41. To: Cynicom (#39)
You shouldn't donate to any candidates. Lot of people wish they knew more about him, sooner, saved a lot of money from going down a black hole.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#42. To: GreyLmist (#41)
Any particular reason why "you" should not donate???? You shouldn't donate to any candidates.
#43. To: Cynicom (#42) (Edited)
Any particular reason why "you" should not donate???? I wasn't talking about "you" meaning people in general, even though I don't think our Founders intended for any of our elections to be bought as they are. I meant you -- Cynicom -- shouldn't donate to any candidates. Ron Paul did nothing in his 2008 run or now to warrant your Shylockian/Merchant of Venice impersonation as if you were owed a "pound of flesh" from him and his support base for whatever the amount was of your supposed "contribution". Surely he wouldn't even have wanted it under those conditions. Ron Paul was not a Congressman when he resigned from the Republican Party in 1987 to run for President the first time as a Libertarian. In his 2008 run, his constituents had elected him to office as a Republican and he had a responsibility to represent them as the Republican they voted for, despite all the other politicians who care nothing of that responsibility to their voters and switch parties for their own benefit after gaining office party-pretentiously. Apparently, his representation responsibility to his district and their opportunity to send him to Congress again should have been discarded, in your opinion, to give you your "money's worth" with a third party Presidential run in '08 but, in order to gain ballot access in certain states, he had agreed then not to run Third Party. I'm not sure but that might not be the case this time [Edit to add: and he doesn't have to run for Congress again, so maybe he will consider a 2012 Third Party]. He only had 14 pledged delegates and 34 estimated delegates at the end of the '08 GOP race but stayed in it until it was over and I was still able to vote for him in my State to be President. I don't consider it a wasted vote. I think everybody who didn't vote for him wasted their vote for more corruption. Is America, its misused Military, the Constitution and Liberty Revolution, and even this forum's atmosphere better for your Shylockian campaign against Ron Paul? I don't think so and don't understand it but you seem to delight in it. Says more about you, though, than it does about Ron Paul. Edited for spelling, spacing, bracketed insert in paragraph two and to reword a sentence there after it. You shouldn't donate to any candidates.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#44. To: carenotus, Artisan (#36) (Edited)
Noting here that IUDs/Intra-Uterine Devices are abortive to fertilized embryos by preventing them from being implanted in the uterus but he didn't say he prescribed those. Edited punctuation. Also (not being a Catholic), he prescribed birth control as a doctor and said during the Leno interview that he had. Then he was pilloried as eugenicist like George H. W. Bush.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#45. To: GreyLmist (#43)
Now that is personal. After Ron Paul took us to the cleaners in 2008, I stopped donating until 2010 when I donated to Art Robinson, from Oregon. At that time I took up helping deserving kids with college tuition. a lot more rewarding than giving to false pied pipers. I meant you -- Cynicom -- shouldn't donate to any candidates.
#46. To: Cynicom (#45) (Edited)
Now that is personal. Yes, it is personal. If I wanted to talk to the wall, I don't have to come here to do it. Am I the only one you expect to not address you personally about your personal Anti-Ron Paul campaign? -- or just anyone and everyone who is critical of it, as if you have some special dispensation from unfavorable commentary on your actions? What does that remind me of? A four letter word that begins with a "J" and ends with an "s". He didn't and he wasn't running a horse race, either, on orders that he be sent to a glue-factory if he didn't win for you and your investment. Your Ron Paul hostility is unfounded. iirc, it began when a media outlet refused to run a campaign ad for him that you and this 4um tried to arrange and was slow to refund the money for it. That wasn't Ron Paul's fault and it wasn't his fault that the nomination went to McCain -- undoubtedly due to the same sort of Party and media riggings that we and the world have seen run against Ron Paul this time. As I said before, he agreed for '08 to not run Third Party in order to gain ballot access in certain States. He also had a responsibility to continue representing his constituents as a Republican. Evidently, that means nothing to you. Why not? Edited last sentence of paragraph 1. I meant you -- Cynicom -- shouldn't donate to any candidates.
After Ron Paul took us to the cleaners in 2008,
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#47. To: Artisan (#13)
add that one to this one: German Warplanes in American Skies "..."CARLSBAD, N.M. -- Four German air force pilots parachuted to safety after their two jets collided over southeastern New Mexico during a training mission. "The planes were from a German flight training facility at Holloman Air Force Base near Alamogordo, about 100 miles northwest of the crash site over Sitting Bull Falls. . . . "The two Tornado strike-attack planes, which belong to the German air force, were on a training mission at German Tornado midlevel altitudes. Each plane carried a student pilot and an instructor. . . . "The German Luftwaffe has trained its pilots at Holloman for years, and its Flying Training Center there currently has about 580 military personnel and about 25 Tornado airplanes." So what the story was saying was that the Luftwaffe has set up its own flight center on American soil. That the German air force is flying maneuvers -- with hundreds of its military men involved -- over the United States. ...." http://www.sweetliberty.org/news8.htm German Air Force in the United States http://usmilitary.about.com/libr...info/blgermanairforce.htm 1933 War Powers Act made US citizens enemy...still in effect ... Since March 9, 1933, the United States has remained in a continuous state of declared National Emergency. Since that time, the American ... we r so dumb. New law allows Israeli Air Force easy opportunity for a false flag in United States http://whatreallyhappened.com/n ode/179812
German Air Force Operates Flying Squdrons in the United States. On 1 May 1996 , the German Air Force Tactical Training Center was established on Holloman ...
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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#48. To: GreyLmist (#46)
Does the possibility ever enter your mind that just perhaps Ron Paul was not serious about running for president? After the Trotski memo, there were many Paul supporters that dropped their support and accepted what Paul wrote as the gospel. Pauls actions have been consistent for years now, it is past time to accept him at his word and find someone else to support or withdraw from the system.
#49. To: Cynicom (#48)
We've discussed the so-called "Trotsky memo" before. Ron Paul 2008: Message from Ron Quote what your complaint is about. He said, "this Revolution is permanent." He noted that Trosky had also said that about the Russian Revolution, so as not to plagiarize the statement. So what? He then said of his own Revolution and ours: "It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty:" He talked of his own "determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get." He said, "with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter." He explained that he was "committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run." I've explained that he had agreed not to run third party to get ballot access in certain states. He explained, too, that he had "another priority": "I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen." I also have explained that he had a responsibility to his constituents to represent them as the Republican they voted for and to continue representing the Constitution for them and all of us, if he could, which would have been jeopardized by switching parties then. The situation is somewhat different now if he chooses to run third party, since he doesn't have to run for Congressional re-election, but he still has a responsibility to represent his constituents in his district as a Republican for the remainder of his term. Anyone who dropped their support over any of that wasn't seriously a supporter, imo. After the Trotski memo, there were many Paul supporters that dropped their support and accepted what Paul wrote as the gospel.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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