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Title: New York Senate bill seeks to end anonymous internet posting
Source: Yahoo News
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technol ... nternet-posting-162549128.html
Published: Jul 23, 2012
Author: Tecca
Post Date: 2012-07-23 01:42:49 by Americans 1st
Keywords: None
Views: 311
Comments: 23

Anonymity is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, the United States was founded, in part, thanks to Thomas Paine's anonymously written, pro-revolution pamphlet Common Sense. On the other hand, 12-year-olds who post anonymously on the internet can be rather unpleasant and cause real problems by cyberbullying. Whether you think the good outweighs the bad, this news is troubling indeed: A far-reaching bill introduced in the New York State Senate could end the practice of posting online once and for all.

Sen. Thomas F. O'Mara / NY SenateIntroduced by New York State Sen. Thomas F. O'Mara (R—Big Flats), S6779 would require that any anonymous post online is subject to removal if the poster refuses to post — and verify — their legal name, their IP address, and their home address. From the (likely well intentioned) bill:

"A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted."

Critics are quick to point out how dangerous and ineffective the anti-privacy bill would be in the off chance that it somehow passes. After all, IP addresses do nothing to verify a person's identity, and including your home address on a controversial internet post could open you up to real-life threats.

In effect, the bill is an online stalker's dream. Of course, the most likely result of the bill's passage would just be the full-scale elimination of all comment systems everywhere, because the system is an unworkable burden on both the poster and the "web site administrators" who would need to respond to ludicrous take down requests at all times of the day.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-23   7:56:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I suspect that this is an effort, as it's been, to get peoples' political viewpoints ID'd to make the job of the LE swine easier and more efficient.

I suspect that this is an effort, as it's been, to get peoples' political viewpoints ID'd to make the job of the ADL's LE swine easier and more efficient.

Fixed.

www.adl.org/education/cyb...orkshops.asp#legal_issues

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-07-23   8:20:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"...ADL has continued its efforts to respond effectively to this issue by developing curriculum and programming for teachers, students and the community on how to recognize and respond to cyberbullying, and by developing a model Cyberbullying Prevention Law for states to adopt and implement.

The ADL Model Cyberbullying Prevention Statute requires school districts to adopt an anti-bullying policy in their schools that is comprehensive, practical and effective. The policy gives schools the resources they need to combat and respond to bullying and cyberbullying.

A strong and comprehensive anti-bullying statute will:

• include a strong definition of bullying, which includes cyberbullying; • address bullying motivated by race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation and other personal characteristics; • include notice requirements for students and parents; • set out clear reporting procedures; • require regular training for teachers and for students about how to recognize and respond to bullying and cyberbullying.

In 1981, ADL developed a model hate crimes bill and advocated for its passage in states nationwide. [see truthtellers.org/ ] Today, 45 states and the District of Columbia have passed hate crime statutes, many based on ADL's model. We hope that ADL's model anti-bullying bill will similarly be a guidepost for legislators and advocates to create smart, comprehensive bullying prevention legislation, so that all our children are safe. "

ADL of the B'nai B'rith.

www.adl.org/main_internet/Cyberbullying_Prevention_Law

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-07-23   8:31:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

truth about making all children safe (more jew lies) -

Lod  posted on  2012-07-23   8:51:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

truth about making all children safe (more jew lies) -

Hypocrisy, thy name is Judaism.

Israeli Police Assaulting/BULLYING 9 Year Old Palestinian Child: 29-06-2012 [And we wonder where all of our "heroes" get their training]
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=147753

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THE TALMUD: SCALPEL THAT BLEEDS THE MIDEAST (Reprint)

By Rev. Ted Pike

1 Sep 10

Editor Note:

For centuries in polite society, it has been considered anti-Jewish to tell what Judaism’s Talmud and Kabbalah plainly and repeatedly teach—that pious Jews have a duty to kill or assist the deaths of Gentiles, especially those who resist the goals of Judaism.

Increasingly today, dozens of ultra-Orthodox rabbis in Israel, even members of Knesset, boldly assert that killing Palestinian Gentiles, even their babies, must be upheld as divine law. Yet last Sunday’s sermon by a powerful Israeli rabbi wanted even more—the deaths of everyone worldwide who opposes Israel. “May our enemies and haters end. Abu Mazen [Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas] and all these evil people should perish from this earth. God should strike them and these Palestinians—evil haters of Israel—with a plague."

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef founded the Shas party which is part of the prime minister’s coalition government. ABC News calls him “the spiritual leader of one of Israel’s leading parties.”

Yosef’s ruthless words didn’t only target Arabs, but anyone around the world who criticizes Zionism. "May all the nasty people who hate Israel vanish from our world,” he said, “May God strike them down with the plague, along with all Palestinians who persecute Israel." If Yosef had his way, Israel critics like Rev. Ted Pike, Norman Finkelstein, Nathaniel Kapner and the Israel Lobby authors would become victims of Israeli targeted assassinations, their voices of warning silenced forever.

As our last article mentioned, Orthodox extremism in Israel is increasingly mainstreamed; this is further evidence of that trend. Rabbi Yosef is so powerful and well known that his remarks merited a response from Netanyahu’s office as well as the US State Department, which both distanced themselves.

It is thus timely that we reprint Rev. Ted Pike’s 2006 article, “The Talmud: Scalpel that Bleeds the Mideast.”

THE TALMUD: SCALPEL THAT BLEEDS THE MIDEAST

By Rev. Ted Pike

13 Jan 06

In the Old Testament, God required the Hebrews to drive the wicked Canaanites from His promised land. Canaanite culture was saturated with infant sacrifice, ritual murder, sexual perversion, idolatry and occultism. God knew that a policy of zero tolerance toward Canaanite evil was the only way Hebrew monotheism would survive. Only then could it prepare a place for Jesus Christ, Savior of all who would trust in Him.

But although God authorized harsh measures against pagan religions, the Old Testament is devoid of racism: the conviction that other peoples are inherently evil, degenerate, or subhuman. King David, notably, descended from a Jew, Boaz, and Ruth, a godly Gentile. David included righteous Gentiles in his army, such as Uriah the Hittite. Also, David was close friends with the Sidonian king Hiram, who largely built Solomon’s temple. Gentile converts like Rahab were welcomed into the Hebrew community.

Pharisees Bring Racism to Israel

Racism did not enter Judaism until the Scribes and Pharisees, who migrated to Judea from Babylon several centuries before Christ. They infused Jewish religion and culture with the idea that Gentiles are morally inferior and polluting on the basis of race. The Old Testament makes no such claim, warning only against the influence of Gentile idolatry on the Hebrews. The Pharisees introduced a racial superiority into Judaism unheard of in the Old Testament.

As a result, Jews in Christ’s time were deeply racist, convinced of their intrinsic superiority to the Gentile “dogs.”(1) The good Jew did not even talk to a Samaritan.(2) If a Gentile was beaten, robbed and thrown into a ditch, a godly Jew, fearful of becoming “unclean,” would pass by on the other side of the road.(3)

Talmud Enshrines Racism

Unfortunately, the racist revolution of the Pharisees became embodied in the Babylonian Talmud, the vast, rambling compendium of Pharisaic law. Today the Talmud and its mystical companion, the Zohar or Cabala, are the greatest spiritual, ethical, and legal guides for observant Jews. They are of much greater authority to such Jews than the Old Testament.

Popular Jewish writer Herman Wouk comments on the Talmud’s preeminence over all branches of Judaism: “The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe -- whether we are orthodox or conservative or reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists -- we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.”(4)

Racism in Israel

The world is baffled why, in Israel today, the once persecuted Jews have become persecutors. Highly educated religious Jews, especially in the government and among the ultra Orthodox West Bank settlers, now treat the Palestinians much worse than they would treat any animal.

In his film, "Gaza Strip," veteran filmmaker James Longley graphically documents how the Israeli military shoots Arab children through the head for the crime of throwing stones. While filming, Israeli helicopters dropped canisters of debilitating nerve gas on the inhabitants of Gaza. Like the Soviets once did in Afghanistan, Israeli troops left booby-trapped toys on the ground in order to blow up curious children.

The explanation for such behavior is found in the Talmud. The Talmud teaches the superiority and divine right of Jews over Gentiles: the Jew is holy because of God’s racial covenant with Israel. According to the Talmud, Gentiles are unclean because, unlike Jews, they were not present at Mt. Sinai. By standing on the mount, the Jews were perpetually cleansed from lustful thoughts.(5)

In its article on “Gentile,” the authoritative Jewish Encyclopedia summarizes the Talmud’s view of Jewish moral superiority. “The Talmud comments on the untruthfulness of Gentiles ... and contrasts it with the reputation of a Jew: ‘The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth.’”(6) “The Talmudic writers,” this article continues, “say that ‘ ... only Israelites are men’ ... Gentiles they classed not as men but as barbarians.”(7) Rabbi Johanan ben Zakki says that if anyone teaches the Talmud to a Gentile, “such a person deserves death.”(8) Judah ben Illai recommends the daily recital of the benediction: “Blessed be thou ... who has not made me a goi [or Gentile].”(9) Jews are so holy, the Talmud says, “he who smites an Israelite on the cheek is as though he has thus assaulted the divine presence.”(10)

Talmud Dehumanizes Arabs

Humanity is shocked by how the Israeli military criminalizes Arab youth, often shooting them down as if they were subhuman. Yet this is exactly how the Talmud teaches Jews to regard Gentile children. “The Talmud outlawed the issue [or children] of a Gentile as that of a beast.”(11)

During the intifada uprising in Gaza in 1988, the world was horrified when Israeli soldiers buried alive four Palestinian youths. Yet the Talmud sanctions Jewish murder of Gentiles. The Talmud says “if a Jew throws his neighbor into a pit that contains a ladder, then hastens to remove the ladder, he is not liable for the death of his neighbor.”(12) The Jew is also permitted to roll a large stone over the pit opening, guaranteeing the victim will not survive.

According to the Talmud, “those who deny the Torah and the prophets of Israel, the law is that they should be killed and those who have the power of life and death should have them killed, and if this cannot be done, they should be led to their death by deceptive methods.”(13)

The Talmud’s homicidal hatred of Gentiles leaps from its pages. The Jewish Encyclopedia quotes one of the Talmud’s most respectable rabbis, Simeon ben-Yohai: “The best among the Gentiles deserves to be killed.”(14)

How Relevant is Talmud to Jews Today?

How relevant to Jews today is such medieval bloodlust?

The majority of Jews in America have probably never read the Talmud or even heard of Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai. For most of assimilated American Jewry, Judaism involves support of Israel and left-wing causes, but possesses a largely social, not spiritual, obligation.(15)

But in New York and especially Israel, it is very different. Today in Israel, during the annual festival of Lag Ba Omar, tens of thousands of orthodox Jews assemble in Meron, the traditional burial place of Simeon ben Yohai, where they honor his memory through song, dance, and exhortation. The prestigious Encyclopedia Judaica describes ben Yohai as one of the giants of Judaism for all time.(16)

Far from being outdated, ben Yohai’s call to slaughter the “best of the Gentiles” is the Talmudic text that authorizes Israel’s policy of killing innocent Arabs, including children. A government manual for modern Israeli soldiers includes a summary of Ben Yohai’s teaching: “In war when our forces storm the enemy, they are allowed and even enjoined by the Halakah to kill even good civilians, that is civilians who are ostensibly good.”(17)

The Talmud clearly does more than dehumanize Palestinians. It also dehumanizes the educated and religious Jews who are guided by its homicidal racism. The Talmud is the scalpel that makes the Mideast bleed.

Jewish Cabala Says Jews are Divine

The mystical Zohar, or Cabala, like the Talmud, is considered by orthodox Jews to be inspired by God and equal in authority to the Talmud. Many ultra-orthodox Jews, such as predominate in Israel today, consider it of even greater authority. In the Zohar, the idea is everywhere repeated that Jews are divine, holy beings, essential for the very existence of the world. Gentiles, however, are demonic and less than human. The Zohar says, “‘Living soul’ refers to Israel, who have living souls from above, and ‘cattle and creeping thing’ and ‘beast of the earth’ to the other peoples who are not ‘living soul.’”(18) The Zohar continues: “The ‘ass’ means non-Jew, who is to be redeemed by the offering of the lamb, which is the dispersed house of Israel. But if he refuses to be redeemed, then break his skull ... they should be taken out of the book of the living.”(19)

According to the Zohar, God rewards Jews for slaughtering those whom Israel regards as idolaters. “In the palaces of the fourth heaven are those who lamented over Sion and Jerusalem, and all those who destroyed idolatrous nations and those who killed off people who worshipped idols are clothed in purple garments so they may be recognized and honored.”(20) Only by the overthrow of the Gentiles, the Zohar asserts, can Israel regain its predestined position as God’s shekinah glory on earth.(21)

The Zohar calls Gentiles “Amalekites.” In a passage typical of many, it says: “They caused the destruction of the temple ... so when God reveals Himself, they will be wiped off the earth ... But withal redemption will not be complete until Amalek will be exterminated.”(22) Today the religious and military establishment of Israel commonly refers to Palestinians as Amalekites. Until final conquest of the Gentiles, the Zohar says Israel can use any means necessary to assure victory.(23)

Jewish Response to Criticism of Talmud and Cabalah

How do Jewish authorities today respond to accusations of racism within Judaism’s most sacred literature? Deceptively. Yet they do so with a clear conscience because the Talmud teaches, “it is permitted to deceive a goi [Gentile].”(24) Every year, on the eve of Yom Kippur, religious Jews recite the Kol Nidre prayer, which absolves them of any obligation to tell the truth to Gentiles in the following year.(25)

In response to criticism, rabbis usually inform Gentiles that the Talmud is divided into two categories: the Haggada, anecdotal teachings that are non-binding on Jews; and the Halakah, Talmudic law. They claim that those passages “anti-Semites” hold against them are actually Haggada, aberrations which are untypical of the Talmud’s true love and generosity toward all races and religions.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

What is Binding on Jews Today?

The surest way to determine whether a Talmudic text is Halakah is to read the original Talmud(26) and find out if it is endorsed by the Mishnah, the definitive oral law of the Pharisees. Or one may consult the authoritative Jewish Encyclopedia, available as a reference in most metropolitan libraries. Published in 1905, before ecumenical “brotherhood” between Christians and Jews excluded truth about Judaism, the Jewish Encyclopedia frankly tells us what the Talmud has historically taught Jews to believe. In its articles on “Authority,” “Gentile,” “Jesus,” “Christianity,” “Talmud,” and “Cabala,” it confirms that every Talmudic assertion or passage that I have included in this article reflects Halakah, or Talmudic law.

Do all synagogue-attending Jews in America adhere to objectionable Halakic teachings within the Talmud? Of course not. Yet Orthodox rabbinic authorities, especially in Israel, say true Jews will honor every part of the holy, infallible Talmud.

Jewish Bigots want to End “Intolerance”

Considering the racist underpinnings of the Talmud and Zohar, it is astonishing that Jewish “civil liberties” fronts posture as attempting to end racism. ADL/B’nai B’rith, the Southern Poverty Law Center, People for the American Way, and the ACLU are organizations entirely or largely dominated by Jews.

These groups never object to racism within Judaism. Instead, they vilify the “intolerance,” “homophobia,” or “anti-Semitism” of a largely Christian society. Such bigotry, they claim, is ample pretext to attempt to alter Christians’ behavior, stressing “respect for diversity” and even enactment of anti-hate laws worldwide.

What chutzpah -- that the original racists, the followers of the Pharisees, should set themselves up to cleanse the world of racism!

Such audacity and illusion should remind us of the continuing relevance of the words of Jesus, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like white-washed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.”(27)

Gullible Christians

Christians and conservatives are eager to believe that Judaism is as benign in its intentions as any other religion, and that the assurances of its apologists may be taken at face value. The truth is that there are very good reasons why Jewish leadership and even much of Jewish laity are conspicuously engaged in anti-Christian activism, litigation, and legislation. Take notice next time you hear or read of the latest lawsuit against Christmas symbols, prayer in schools, Biblical creationism, etc. Almost invariably, you will find the names of Jewish lawyers, organizations, or even Jewish parents or students as initiators of such litigation. Jewish anti-Christian activism exists today because, thousands of years ago, the Pharisees violently opposed Christ and persuaded most Jews to follow them. Such antagonism to the gospel is only increasing.

Today there exists a rift between Orthodox Judaism, the position of a minority of world Jewry and the state of Israel, versus Reform Judaism ("secular" Judaism), a much larger segment epitomized by ADL/ B’nai B’rith. Yet both venerate Talmud and Cabala, and jealously guard their secrets from the prying eyes of Gentiles.

For this reason, lovers of religious freedom and Christian civilization should be suspicious of what the modern descendents of the Pharisees tell us about their hugely secretive religion. The warning of Jesus, echoing through the millennia, should ring in our ears: “Beware of the leaven [teaching] of the Pharisees.”(28)

End Notes:

1. Mark 7:27

2. John 4:9

3. Luke 10:31

4. Herman Wouk, This is My God , serialized in New York Herald-Tribune , 1959

5. The Talmud says, “When the serpent came into Eve, he infused filthy lust in her ... when Israel stood on Sinai, that lust was eliminated ...” Abodah Zarah, 22b

6. “Gentile,” p. 621

7. Ibid, p. 617

8. Sanhedrin 59a, Hagigah 13a

9. “Gentile,” p. 617

10. Sanhedrin 58b

11. “Gentile,” p. 620

12. Sanhedrin 76b, Abodah Zarah 26b

13. Choschen Hammishpat 156 Haggah

14. Abodah Zarah 26b (This inflammatory statement is censored from the Soncino Talmud, but is cited in the Jewish Encyclopedia’s article, “Gentile,” p. 617.)

15. The latest survey by the American Jewish Committee (Dec. 21, 2005) shows that 29% of U.S. Jews are Reform in affiliation. Since ADL/B’nai B’rith are primarily Reform in constituency, such provide enormous support for their anti-Christian, pro-hate law agenda. This poll shows 32% belong to Conservative Judaism, and only 10% are Orthodox. The high figure of Reform support contradicts the popular notion that ADL/B’nai B’rith represents a tiny left-wing minority.

16. “Simeon ben Yohai,” Encyclopedia Judaica

17. Booklet published by the chaplain of the Israeli army, Central Region Command. Quoted in Dr. Israel Shahak’s Jewish History , Jewish Religion , p. 76

18. Bereshith 47a (This format is according to the Soncino translation.)

19. II 43a (This format is according to the original Mantuan edition of the Zohar.)

20. I 38b, 39a

21. I 160a

22. Bereshith, 25b

23. I 160a

24. Baba Kama 113b

25. Nedarim 68

26. Unfortunately, the authorized Soncino translations of both Talmud and Zohar omit extremely volatile passages. The original texts may be accessed in the Judaic section of the Library of Congress. I have had passages from the original Mantuan edition of the Zohar translated from the Aramaic.

27. Matthew 23:27

28. Luke 12:1

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Christ told the scribes and Pharisees, from whom, according to the Jewish Encyclopedia, the religion of modern Judaism descends:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. bible.cc/john/8-44.htm

<< Matthew 23 >>

1Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. ......

13But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

15Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

16Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! 17Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? 18And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty. 19Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? 20Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon. 21And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. 22And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

23Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. 26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 28Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

29Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. 32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

34Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

bible.cc/matthew/23-4.htm

btw, when Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do," [and there is some discussion that that is the opposite of what He said], He could NOT have meant the Pharisees, but only the Roman soldiers who were "just following orders" [ http://romans13.embassyofheaven.com/arepolicesentbygod.php ].

See bible.cc/john/19-11.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-07-23   9:39:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

God knew that a policy of zero tolerance toward Canaanite evil was the only way Hebrew monotheism would survive. Only then could it prepare a place for Jesus Christ, Savior of all who would trust in Him.

But although God authorized harsh measures against pagan religions, the Old Testament is devoid of racism: the conviction that other peoples are inherently evil, degenerate, or subhuman.

Pike is OK on recounting facts, but his interpretations of those facts make for shaky theology. imo

Lod  posted on  2012-07-23   9:48:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

God knew that a policy of zero tolerance toward Canaanite evil was the only way Hebrew monotheism would survive. Only then could it prepare a place for Jesus Christ, Savior of all who would trust in Him.

But although God authorized harsh measures against pagan religions, the Old Testament is devoid of racism: the conviction that other peoples are inherently evil, degenerate, or subhuman.

Pike is OK on recounting facts, but his interpretations of those facts make for shaky theology. imo

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am not sure where the above is inaccurate.

bible.cc/romans/2-14.htm

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. [via Christ, Abraham's seed: Luke 3] bible.cc/galatians/3-8.htm

Pike is OK on recounting facts, but his interpretations of those facts make for shaky theology. imo

I agree to some [great] extent, particularly where he seems in some articles to agree that God gave the land in the Middle East to "the Jews" forever [after they "obey God" is the way I think he interprets it]. There is a major disconnect there in regard to what the gospel actually says.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-07-23   10:02:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Their failure to be monotheistic (they worshiped many gods, they put kings before God, they killed the prophets, they married infidels, on and on) was what brought Christ to earth.

At least by today's definition, any people that were to be holy and set apart from all the other peoples of the world, would have to be a racist group. imo

Lod  posted on  2012-07-23   10:21:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Their failure to be monotheistic (they worshiped many gods, they put kings before God, they killed the prophets, they married infidels, on and on) was what brought Christ to earth.

Lod is correct about this. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-07-23   16:57:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#22. To: BTP Holdings (#21)

That's my simple understanding of things.

After millenia of getting jerked around, God was tired of pulling their ungrateful, disobedient, fat from the fire.

Lod  posted on  2012-07-23 17:17:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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