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Title: Women's Greatest Fear
Source: UncleBob's Treehouse
URL Source: http://uncabob.blogspot.com/2012/07/womens-greatest-fear.html
Published: Jul 25, 2012
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2012-07-25 12:26:10 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 1002
Comments: 25

"For every problem there is a solution that is simple, clean and wrong” – H.L. Mencken

Most women’s, but not all, greatest fear is to be deserted by a man. There is its corollary: to not get married. To not have husband, home and children.

I once had a hostile, bitter spinster scream at me: “You’re no gentlemen! You’re not married!” She was right that I am no gentleman (I was once described as a “gentleman and a barbarian,” which is pretty accurate). The accusation about marriage was her greatest fear projected on me. No man is going to yell at a woman, “You’re not lady! You’re not married!”

I saw another woman yell at a man in a bar, “You’re not married!” What do they do, check a man’s finger for a ring? If that case he was making a fool of her in a conversation, since she had no idea what she was talking about, and she was reduced to pointing out he wasn’t married. Did his not being married invalidate his argument? Of course not.

In the past a man couldn’t desert his wife since the divorce laws were much stricter. Today we have no-fault divorce unlike in the past where one spouse had to truly be at fault. (This would also prevent women from deserting his husbands, since these days most divorces are initiated by women).

One of my favorite writers is Neal Stephenson. In his novel Cryptonomicon he writes of a woman who deserts her fiancé but has enough time to convince their friends she didn’t do the deserting – that her fiancé, Randy, deserted her. Still, Randy, realizes, “He embodies…just about the worst nightmare, for many women, of what might happen in their lives.”

I’ve met women who think they’ve been deserted (they always blame their problems on men and never realize to what extent they are the problem). I’ve seen some of them end up as hostile, bitter spinsters without home, husband and children, living alone in an apartment with one or more cats.

A lot of the mores, customs and morals that constitute society were not created by reason. They evolved, and they just can’t simply be overthrown and replaced by what people misdefine as “rationality.” Liberals and leftist-libertarians are particularly egregious examples of this belief that society can be planned and improved by their simple-minded ideologies.

Those who have lost their way tend to become fanatics. I’ll quote Stephenson again: “Weirdly, the ones who adopted the sternest and most terrible Old Testament moral tone were the Modern Language types who believed everything was relative and that, for example, polygamy was as valid as monogamy.” (Anyone who is a leftist-libertarian would have to admit they believe polygamy is as good as monogamy. That’s one of their many delusions, along with supporting open borders or worshipping State-created corporate monstrosities such as Wal-Mart.)

Randy muses on what he has discovered: “…the most-modern, politically correct atheists were like people who had suddenly found themselves in charge of a big and unfathomably complex computer system (viz. society) with no documentation or instructions of any kind, and so whose only way to keep things running was to invent and enforce certain rules with a kind of neo-Puritanical vigor, because they were at a loss to deal with any deviations from what they saw as the norm.”

He realizes something else: “Whereas people who were wired into a church were like UNIX systems administrators who, while they might not understand everything, at least had some documentation, some FAQs and How-tos and README files, providing some guidance when things got out of whack.”

Things have gotten out of whack in our society – and have been for quite a while – because so many people have thrown the old documentation out the window and are trying (in the case of libertarians) to replace it with ideologies they have obtained by imitating the opinions of other people, e.g. Murray Rothard, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises.

This out-of-whackness has permeated throughout society and now affected the relationships between men and women, which it has for about the last 40 years. One of the reasons is because of the influence of lost and deluded leftists such as Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem. People have been imitating their ideas.

The evidence is in that these crackpots didn’t know what they were talking about and in fact have been immensely destructive. Many people have seen through these nutcases but not enough. Give it some time, though.

The result of people imitating the ideas of fools has been in increase not in security but in insecurity, fear and anxiety. Women’s greatest fear of being deserted hasn’t been reduced – it’s been increased. And for that, we can thank bad ideas. And the poor people who fell for them are the ones who suffered.

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#1. To: farmfriend, abraxas, christine, purplerose (#0)

Turtle sees through you...

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-07-25   12:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#1)

And they through you, I'm sure.

You demand empathy, but you serve up thinly disguised hostility in exchange. What a baby. These nice ladies that you address here haven't earned the passive aggressive barbs you toss at them. There may be certain unattractive cultural & psychological traits that are common among American women, but I don't find them among the women posters here.

In some respects, American men are the other half of the problem.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-07-25   12:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge, abraxas (#2)

These nice ladies that you address here haven't earned the passive aggressive barbs you toss at them

They know perfecty well I'm teasing them. I get a lot of it myself, especially from Abraxas.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-07-25   13:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: randge (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-25   13:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-25   13:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#1)

opinions of other people, e.g. Murray Rothard, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises.

The world would have been better off had people ignored the lot of those people.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-07-25   13:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

opinions of other people, e.g. Murray Rothard, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises.

The world would have been better off had people ignored the lot of those people.

Jews, of course.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-07-25   13:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Turtle (#0)

Blaming Libertarians for Feminism is just plain idiotic, the out-of-wackness I believe is Turtle wackn off way too much.

Laying it at the feet of Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem and their ilk is closer to the truth, although likely they were useful idiots.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-07-25   14:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lysander_Spooner (#8)

Laying it at the feet of Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem and their ilk is closer to the truth, although likely they were useful idiots.

IMO that is misplaced blame.

If women weren't already predisposed to this, feminism would have died in the cradle.

Because of it, western "women" are the worlds rejects. Lots of men go to other countries to find a sane wife. How many foreign men look for wives in the US? Rhetorical.

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Whenever there's resistance, examine your motivation. Whenever there's flow, consider taking action.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-07-25   14:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)

Most women’s, but not all, greatest fear is to be deserted by a man.

No, it's a tragedy. No woman enters marriage with this fear, a woman expects a man to Be A Man and work for the success of the marriage.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-07-25   15:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#1) (Edited)

Turtle sees through you...

This out-of-whackness has permeated throughout society and now affected the relationships between men and women, which it has for about the last 40 years. One of the reasons is because of the influence of lost and deluded leftists such as Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem. People have been imitating their ideas.

In formulating my own ideas, I contend that such "great thinkers" like Friedan and Steinem are not novel. Their ideas were molded into them by CIA think-tank intelligentsia. Mavericks never follow or imitate lowly influences like Friedan and Steinem. We do watch what they do and lead with our own sense of principles though. That's what makes us so dangerous.

purplerose  posted on  2012-07-25   15:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Turtle (#3)

They know perfecty well I'm teasing them.

It would seem so.

A lot of stuff that gets posted on these topics sounds so doctrinaire and tedious. We've heard it all before.

You just wish that folks would lighten up.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-07-25   17:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lysander_Spooner (#8)

Blaming Libertarians for Feminism is just plain idiotic

I didn't blame them, but there are so many holes in their thinking it's in some ways worthless and other ways dangerous.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-07-25   17:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle, farmfriend, abraxas (#0)

No matter how long he lives, no man ever becomes as wise as the average woman of forty-eight.
-H.L. Mencken


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"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion." -Albert Camus.

Armadillo  posted on  2012-07-25   18:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Armadillo (#14)

And Mencken's tongue was firmly embedded in cheek as he drooled sarcasm with that line.

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Lod  posted on  2012-07-25   20:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Turtle, farmfriend, christine, purplerose (#1)

Turtle sees through you...

Did you get a job with the TSA Turtle? lol

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-07-26   20:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Turtle (#3)

especially from Abraxas.

Moi? lol

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-07-26   21:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Turtle (#13)

What issues do you have with Libertarians? I am a small L Libertarian. Open borders and free trade are retarded... But, anything else?

"The Best Way to Control the Opposition is to Lead it." Vladimir Lenin "I am not a Marxist." Karl Marx

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2012-07-26   23:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: abraxas (#16)

Did you get a job with the TSA Turtle? lol

LOL


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-07-27   2:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Dead Culture Watch (#18)

But, anything else?

Corporations (they are creations of the State, including Wal-Mart, which the more deluded libertarains worship)?

Polygamy? Why should a libertarian not support it?

Abortion? The whackjob Murray Rothbard said fetuses were "parasites."

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-07-27   12:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton (#4)

Turtle's views on many things, including women, is ..., well, let's just say interesting.

I order you to smash yourself in the nose with a hardback copy of "The Critique of Pure Reason."

Talk smack about Turtle, will you.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-07-27   12:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Turtle (#21)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-27   12:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Eric Stratton (#22)

I'm not a woman Turtle.

I didn't say you were a woman, but I still order you to smash yourself in the nose with "The Critique of Pure Reason."

You may do so until forgiven.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-07-27   13:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Turtle (#23) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-27   15:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Turtle (#23)

Even if a woman excels in arduous learning and painstaking thinking they will exterminate the merits of her sex.

-- Immanual Kant Observations on the Feeling of the Beautiful and Sublime 1764

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-07-27   17:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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