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Title: Freeh Group Member Criticizes NCAA's Use of Investigative Report
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URL Source: https://chronicle.com/article/Freeh-Group-Member-Criticizes/133213/
Published: Jul 28, 2012
Author: Brad Wolverton
Post Date: 2012-07-28 10:48:22 by Jethro Tull
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A member of the team that produced a 267-page report condemning the response of Pennsylvania State University's leaders to a serial child molester believes that the NCAA's use of that document was insufficient to justify the punishment it handed the university this week.

"That document was not meant to be used as the sole piece, or the large piece, of the NCAA's decision making," a source familiar with the investigation told The Chronicle on Thursday. "It was meant to be a mechanism to help Penn State move forward. To be used otherwise creates an obstacle to the institution changing."

Penn State's Board of Trustees commissioned Louis J. Freeh, a former FBI director, to investigate how the university had handled the case of Jerry Sandusky, the assistant football coach who was convicted last month of 45 counts of molesting children.

Mr. Freeh's team of investigators released their report this month. It described how a reverence for football had led four top officials­—including Graham B. Spanier, the university's president at the time, and Joe Paterno, the longtime coach, who died in January—to cover up repeated allegations of child sexual abuse by Mr. Sandusky.

A confidentiality agreement forbids members of Mr. Freeh's group to speak publicly about the investigation. Late Friday, a spokesperson for the group released the following statement: "The Freeh Group emphatically stated that no member of its investigative team spoke to The Chronicle of Higher Education for its story. The Freeh Group has no comment on the NCAA's use of the report."

Mark Emmert, the NCAA's president, repeatedly referred to the Freeh document during his news conference on Monday announcing the penalties, which included a $60-million fine, a four-year ban on bowl-game participation, and significant reductions in scholarships.

The report, Mr. Emmert said, was "vastly more involved and thorough than any investigation we've ever conducted." It included interviews with more than 400 people and a review of some three million documents. Given Penn State's acceptance of the findings, Mr. Emmert and other NCAA leaders set aside a possible investigation of their own and, in less than 10 days, decided on Penn State's punishment.

But allowing the Freeh report to form the basis for such a heavy penalty was not enough, said the person close to Mr. Freeh's group. "The Freeh team reviewed how Penn State operated, not how they worked within the NCAA's system," this person said. "The NCAA's job is to investigate whether Penn State broke its rules and whether it gained a competitive advantage in doing so."

The NCAA's decision, this person said, could have a lasting negative impact on the university—and not just in football.

"In using this report largely as the basis for their decision, the NCAA could hurt Penn State's enrollment, recruiting, and outside relationships and partnerships," the source said. "If you don't attract good faculty and research dollars, your institution has no stature."

'Nothing Is Black and White'

Last November, Mr. Emmert posed a series of questions in a letter to Rodney A. Erickson, Penn State's interim president, signaling what looked like a separate inquiry into the university.

"That letter leads any reasonable person to think that the NCAA was starting their own investigation," said the person with knowledge of Mr. Freeh's team. "If the NCAA wasn't going to investigate, they would have said, 'This is a law-enforcement matter.'"

Throughout the eight-month inquiry, NCAA leaders received regular updates about the Freeh investigators' findings. That should have clarified the "narrow focus" of the Freeh group's work, the source said, which was to provide the facts about Penn State's leaders, giving a sense of how decisions were made and how the university was governed.

The report painted a damning picture of four top administrators: Mr. Spanier; Mr. Paterno; Gary C. Schultz, a former senior vice president; and Timothy M. Curley, the athletic director, on administrative leave.

Mr. Spanier was the only one among them to be interviewed by the Freeh investigators, and that was just days before the report was released. (Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz, facing charges of perjury and failing to report child abuse, did not answer questions for the report.)

Because of those and other limitations, some of the Freeh team's findings were circumstantial. "The report is critical, but nothing is black and white," The Chronicle's source said. "No investigation can totally answer all the questions everyone has."

The Freeh report also could have explored more about the various coaches who knew about Mr. Sandusky's showering with boys—an area in which the NCAA obviously should have followed up, said the person close to the Freeh investigation.

"The NCAA took this report and ran with it without further exploration," this person said. "If you really wanted to show there was a nexus to cover up, interview the coaches. See their knowledge and culpability and how far this went."

The NCAA's approach is not sitting well with the source close to Mr. Freeh's staff.

"The sanctions against Penn State were really overwhelming, and no one imagined the report being used to do that," this person said. "People thought it would help others draw conclusions about what happened and provide a guide for leaders to be able to identify minefields and navigate through them.

"Instead, Emmert took the report and used Penn State's own resources to do them in," the person said. "The institution is made of people, too. And they don't deserve this."


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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"The sanctions against Penn State were really overwhelming, and no one imagined the report being used to do that," this person said. "People thought it would help others draw conclusions about what happened and provide a guide for leaders to be able to identify minefields and navigate through them.

I thot them rather "underwhelming".

The "academic" door needs to be kicked open and watch the rats run.

Olde Joe cheated the hangman, the yellow eyed rats that run the place are still there.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-07-28   10:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Sorry, I can't decipher code.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-07-28   11:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

"In using this report largely as the basis for their decision, the NCAA could hurt Penn State's enrollment, recruiting, and outside relationships and partnerships," the source said. "If you don't attract good faculty and research dollars, your institution has no stature."

EXACTLY and

"The NCAA's job is to investigate whether Penn State broke its rules and whether it gained a competitive advantage in doing so."

I can't see how this could have given the football team a competitive edge. IMO, this was/is a law enforcement issue beginning from the governor's office on down to the PSU staff DIRECTLY involved. And then, insults of insults, that pervert Spanier being given a government secret job.

christine  posted on  2012-07-28   11:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

Sorry, I can't decipher code.

Academia needs to clean its own house.

Penn state, as all others, were created for advanced learning, not for professional sports.

Sports need to be placed in their place, for example, Penn State is known nationwide as a powerhouse football team, NOT AS A BASTION OF ACADEMIC LEARNING.

In the past the "academic institution" allowed itself to be used to further the football program. Athletes were run thru a shameful regimen of basket weaving courses to keep them eligible.

It is a money maker and the the professional staff of academics prostitute themselves and pay lip service to "higher education".

Cynicom  posted on  2012-07-28   11:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#3)

I can't see how this could have given the football team a competitive edge. IMO, this was/is a law enforcement issue beginning from the governor's office on down to the PSU staff DIRECTLY involved. And then, insults of insults, that pervert Spanier being given a government secret job.

You're right, Christine. Spanier is a scumbag and needs to be outed. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-07-28   11:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   11:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   11:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   11:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#4) (Edited)

In the past the "academic institution" allowed itself to be used to further the football program. Athletes were run thru a shameful regimen of basket weaving courses to keep them eligible.

I remember when Northwestern beat Penn State and went to the Rose Bowl. Northwestern's quarterback choked, and they lost big time to USC.

BTW, I was working security at that football game in Dyche Stadium. We knew they had beer, but we didn't want to see it. One guy pulled out a beer and chugged it right where I could see him do it. I walked up to him and said, "Let's have it." He didn't move, so I grabbed from his hand and dumped it. I told him, "Be mindful of the meaning of the word, "discetion", be discreet." ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-07-28   11:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   12:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   12:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton (#11) (Edited)

IMO if it doesn't, then it presents a green light to other places where this is currently happening, and make no mistake, it is currently happening elsewhere.

It's happening alright, but where and to what magnitude?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-07-28   12:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   12:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#13) (Edited)

I used to go into Bills games w/ my winter coat slung over my shoulder w/ the sleeves filled with cans of beer. I'd put a couple in my pockets to give them something to pick.

Reminds me of the time I was working security at a bar near home and caught a guy reaching over the bar and stealing beer. I went over and took the beer from him and his friend and put it on the bar. Then, I grabbed the guy sitting in the chair and moved him 5 or 6 feet before his feet hit the ground. They caught his friend with a beer stuck in his coat sleeve on the way out.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-07-28   12:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine, 4um (#3)

I can't see how this could have given the football team a competitive edge.

I think I could make a reasonable argument that having an 80 y/o head football coach put these kids at a competitive DISADVANTAGE.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-07-28   12:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

Oh, so there were more coaches involved?

Really?

Which ones?

Oh, I get it now.

The person who is leaking the info is claiming the Freeh report is incomplete.

Got it.

But you knew this. I suspect your puffed up, self defined "morality" must have taken a powder as you read this article :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-07-28   12:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: BTP Holdings (#12) (Edited)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   12:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine, Jethro Tull, All (#3)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   12:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eric Stratton (#17)

Who knows, can we know? You and I cannot.

Of course we don't know, but why would you then frame a question: Oh, so there were more coaches involved?

And again, given your strong negative opinions about PSU, why would you have tried desperately to enter this market with your chicken wing sauce, using my free time, gas and labor?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-07-28   12:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Eric Stratton (#18)

You wanting a direct answer is like asking Obama where he was born.

Go back and form a coherent question :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-07-28   12:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   12:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#3)

When you have the university and Mike McQueary sending letters to recruits bragging about never being sanctioned by the ncaa and crowing about winning with honor, when all along they knowingly harbored a baby raping monster, I'd say that was a recruiting advantage. They were protecting ths football program. Look what happened to their recruiting once this story broke.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-07-28   12:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

I think I could make a reasonable argument that having an 80 y/o head football coach put these kids at a competitive DISADVANTAGE.

Hey, watch it.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-07-28   12:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Eric Stratton (#6)

What're you, nigerian? :)

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-07-28   12:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Obnoxicated (#24)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   12:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Obnoxicated (#22)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   12:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Eric Stratton (#21)

The piece implied that there were.

The article implied that the Freeh report was incomplete.

Now scat, and go sell some chicken sauce.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-07-28   13:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Eric Stratton (#26)

I have no sympathy for psu fans. I went to a game in Happy Valley in '05. Their student section bombed our school's band (osu) with urine filled balloons. Needless to say, our band will never return to their stadium again.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-07-28   13:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Obnoxicated (#28)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   13:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Eric Stratton (#29)

I'm at a point where I recognize that sports need to be seriously toned down in this country, and if it means dusting a few programs along the way to send the appropriate message, then so be it, despite which ones they are as long as they've behaved inappropriately in that way.

Sports is a pleasant diversion from politics and authoritarian a'holes with a religious bent. Going back to a post you made yesterday, a Sunday afternoon spent in a sports bar, IMO, is far more therapeutic than cracking open some fable based on the live of a Jew. Hell, the Superbowl win by the 1968 J-E-T-S is more memorable to me than all the gospels I've ever heard. I bet I'm not alone......

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-07-28   13:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30) (Edited)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   14:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Eric Stratton, 4 (#31)

Commercials have become increasingly designed for idiots.

Amen! to that.

Even watching HGTV with Mrs.L, I often ask what in the world are we supposed to be buying now?

Completely inane messages.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson

Lod  posted on  2012-07-28   14:18:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

The article implied that the Freeh report was incomplete.

Well I guess it was. I read the Freeh report and missed any reference to "chicken sauce", or what was done with it. Sounds kinky.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

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Hmmmmm  posted on  2012-07-28   18:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Eric Stratton (#18)

I'm not talking about the story not having broken. Of course, that would have a negative impact. I'm talking about the using of boys by Sandusky and the Second Mile Organization as well as the pols and whoever else was/is in the pedophile network. How could that have been an edge as far as recruiting?

christine  posted on  2012-07-28   18:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#4)

Sports need to be placed in their place, for example, Penn State is known nationwide as a powerhouse football team, NOT AS A BASTION OF ACADEMIC LEARNING.

why can't a university be known for both? my understanding is that at most universities, the athletes must maintain a certain grade point average in order to remain on the teams.

what is wrong with sports? damn, we're having the Olympics right now. for the most part, they are a healthy, wholesome activity.

you know, as well as i do, there isn't one aspect of life or one industry that will not have exploitation or abuse of some form or another. they are comprised of human beings afterall. for the most part, there is more benefit for building character and physicality than there is negative. IMHO, of course.

christine  posted on  2012-07-28   18:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#35) (Edited)

Christine...

When you have time check the definition of ...kynodesme...

The original Olympics were all nude and greatly populated by people of "varying" sexual mores.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-07-28   18:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   18:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Eric Stratton (#37)

we're not communicating about the same thing. we're talking past each other.

christine  posted on  2012-07-28   18:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   18:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-07-28   18:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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