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Published: Jul 29, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-07-29 07:19:27 by Tatarewicz
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Reckoner Barry M. observes...

re the Marx quote; I don’t know if you have read much of Marx and his acolytes, but Marx, Engels and Lenin’s rantings are not just chilling but banal in the extreme and a very good example of the gullibility of people to be led by a few demagogues telling them they are victims, oppressed by a privileged minority and the only way to change the situation is by violence.

The sad reality is that Marxism Leninism would not have succeeded except for the fact that there were a lot of people suffering serious privation and hardship under the Czars, and many were ready to grasp at the opportunity to redress grievances whether real or imaginary.

A vital factor in the success of the Marxist revolution was the sealed train journey of Lenin out of Germany to Moscow by the Germans who were then at war with Russia. Disrupting the Czars from prosecuting the war seemed like a master stroke at the time, but look what happened to the Czars and their poor murderously maltreated subjects in the aftermath. It’s a very good example of the advice “be careful what you wish for,you might get it.”

Private property is a keystone of a free enterprise civilised social order and as more people lose their tenuous grasp on the dream of at least some capital and the ideal of their own home the more many will turn to the state or demagogues for protection or to vent their spleen upon a system they rightly or wrongly feel has let them down.

To paraphrase Lenin when explaining how to bring about the revolution and the destruction of the ‘capitalists’, he replied ‘The capitalists will make the bullets for us to fire at them.’

Looking from afar at the US today it is easy to imagine a lot of disgruntled disenfranchised people only too willing to listen to a demagogic type like Obama. Apparently his figures are almost as good as Romney’s when Romney should be streets ahead. Putting up a multi- billionaire like him with the albatross of Baine Capital around his neck during a period when people are being laid off around the country doesn’t strike me as very smart.

The best system I have read about so far is that of the system of cooperatives in Mondregon Spain and of worker consultative enterprises in America like Nucor, where the workers have an interest in the success of the enterprise rather than just seeing themselves as pawns or functionaries caught up in the gyrations of a system that seems to care little about them as individuals.

And finally, departing from conventional fuel sources, another Reckoner Chris writes...

I believe there is a fix to the economy based on the fundamental principals of self sufficiency. Agrarian based societies improvised and traded among themselves for their fundamental daily needs. Technology has given us new tools to be applied to the age old self sufficiency formula. Imagine governments promoting growing your own food, heating & cooling using solar electric and heat collection panels. How about high efficiency insulations and efficient home design and best-exposure house orientation? There’s an entire industry waiting to happen in both product manufacture and installation. And, the end product would give both pride and savings to the homeowner and deliver a lesser impact on world resources. Sadly, no government wants nor would let its people become self sufficient because self sufficient people don’t need government.

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"The sad reality is that Marxism Leninism would not have succeeded except for the fact that there were a lot of people suffering serious privation and hardship under the Czars, and many were ready to grasp at the opportunity to redress grievances whether real or imaginary."

But our elitist ptb don't see what they are creating.

Or DO they?

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