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Title: Rand Paul Tries to Intimidate & Harass Journalist After A Youtube Video
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Published: Aug 2, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-08-02 00:09:59 by christine
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#1. To: christine (#0)

After watching that video, I can only feel the most profound respect for these two jounalists.

They hit hard, fairly, and with all respect necessary.

As far as Rand, he's a piece of shit.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-08-02   1:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

hey, i have a picture of that woman with me holding a 4um sign. (for what it's worth) :-) LoL. I will have to dig it up. she's a 911 truther from san diego.

They will send the capitol police to arrest her for asking randy paul a question? damn, she should tell them to bring it on then sue them and retire.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-08-02   1:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Rand had a right to be an ass and not answer her questions, but he doesn't have a right to sic the capitol police on her if that is what he did here. I don't know that he did that yet, it could have been someone else that did it. I will wait until more facts come out before I pass judgment on this against Rand. However the capitol police I will judge now, they have no right to harass people like that and abuse their authority when people are doing nothing wrong.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-08-02   1:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, All (#0)

At 3:48, Luke Rudkowski said that they were registered Press inside the Senate building, that Abby Martin has a Senate Press Pass and he has different/"magic" Press passes. Presumably, the camera-person with them who did the recording was likewise "magically" credentialed, since only Abby Martin and RT were targeted with wrath from on-high afterwards. At 5:33 in the video below, they clearly stop and don't go into an off-limits area to continue questioning Rand Paul, so what was the uproar really about? Also, about 5 or 6 seconds later as they were leaving, the camera-person's first name is mentioned; sounded like "Dustin". At the 4-minute point in the video below, Rudkowski says in response to the woman walking with Rand Paul telling him to contact them for comment): "I've already been around the Senate building and they never give comments." Am wondering, if he knew that, why even call in Abby Martin there at all for "back-up", as he said at 4:18.

Rand Paul Confronted on Mitt Romney Endorsement

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-08-03   2:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine, lod (#0)

Can you tell me if Alex Jones has covered this story at all on his show or sites? I havent seen anything about it on his website. Time is of the essence, Thanks.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-08-03   11:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#5)

It seems like he has, but, don't hold me to it.

Trying to find AJ's visit with Vidal last evening in the archives, I learned that if you don't know the exact date of an interview, you'll have to listen to everything, going back to 2008 to find the interview.

Kind of a joke, if you ask me.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson

Lod  posted on  2012-08-03   12:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: RickyJ (#3)

Rand had a right to be an ass and not answer her questions, but he doesn't have a right to sic the capitol police on her if that is what he did here. I don't know that he did that yet, it could have been someone else that did it. I will wait until more facts come out before I pass judgment on this against Rand. However the capitol police I will judge now, they have no right to harass people like that and abuse their authority when people are doing nothing wrong.

That's pretty much my take. All the vid shows is that Rand wouldn't answer questions, which is disappointing. But it doesn't show that Rand was involved with calling in any police action.

When you think about the immense pressures that exist in DC, I think it might be worth considering just how much personal stamina it requires to hold on to principles. I'm not talking about selling out for money or personal gain, but rather while you are there, you try to implement good stuff, and then are faced with obstacles. So you try to get around those as best you can, and doing that sort of thing week in and week out for months or years eventually makes you cut corners and compromise in at least some areas. If there's anything to that, then maybe that's what's sucking Rand into the abyss with the Mittens endorsement, and maybe this too. Everyone is human.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-08-03   12:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite, 4 (#7)

Ron was able to hold the same principles for decades while Rand can't do it for six years.

Seems he never had that many to start with...

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson

Lod  posted on  2012-08-03   13:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pinguinite (#7)

That's pretty much my take. All the vid shows is that Rand wouldn't answer questions, which is disappointing. But it doesn't show that Rand was involved with calling in any police action.

The election of these assholes (now including Rand) does not entitle them to protection from the press's inquiry's in any way. They can choose not to answer on camera and then that is the story. When the Capitol Police are used to silence, intimidate, or fire a member of the press we all lose.

That's why they call it a police state.

This girl will have a hard time filling Alyona's shoes, she lacks both skill and poise that I'm afraid experience is not going to bring her.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

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Hmmmmm  posted on  2012-08-03   14:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#7)

But it doesn't show that Rand was involved with calling in any police action.

These people are trustworthy, they are not makiing this up. They were both big rand supporters, not adversaries.Because of her unwavering questions, Rand used his position to try and get her fired and arrested. That shows his true colors.

If Rand didnt take the action then who do you think did? Who would have such authority? He is the senator, not his underlings.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-08-03   15:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#10)

If Rand didnt take the action then who do you think did? Who would have such authority? He is the senator, not his underlings.

On that point, we only have one side of the story. Unfortunately, it seems that's all we'll ever get.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-08-04   0:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FormerLurker, christine, wudidiz, randge, purplerose (#1)

After watching that video, I can only feel the most profound respect for these two jounalists.

They hit hard, fairly, and with all respect necessary.

As far as Rand, he's a piece of shit.

Christine, here is that picture I referred to, I thought ya'lld get a kick out of it. This is the woman rand threatened, abby martin, with the 4um logo: haha! She is a 911 truther from san diego. This is in santa monica CA around 2008.

Rand confronted on Bilderbergers - Rand Paul Devolution is NOT Ron Paul Grass Roots Revolution! http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=147216

Rand Paul Threatens Independent Journalist With Arrest, Suspension of Press Credentials For Asking Tough Questions http://theintelhub.com/2012/08/01/rand-paul-threatens-independent- journalist-with-arrest-suspension-of-press-credentials-for-asking-tough- questions/

Rand Paul Tries to Intimidate & Harass Journalist After A Youtube Video http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=3UKXpzdFQ_I

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-09-26   3:11:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan (#12)

Is that a Carter mask your wearing?

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-26   4:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#8)

Ron was able to hold the same principles for decades while Rand can't do it for six years.

Seems he never had that many to start with...

My friend... I have never thought apples to fall far from their original trees. It is a troubling thought for me these days. ...These days I get to patrol my whole city in a sense. Delivering Food... yeah , all the law enforcement and pizza people know each other on the roads...it is an insightful awareness of the LEOs. If the hammer fell and they were called to support some homicidal NWO insanity I think many of them would defect. I'd be particularly interested in watching the comal sheriffs department cause they strike me as crooked SOBs. They did not become crooked overnight mind you... but gradually the corruption grew, like a child and his political aspirations to be like his father....and a father never instilling the value of good values... wait... WHAT!?! No I dont buy that... so this whole rand and ron ... it has me real sour, I think my original thought is right, invalidate them all. They can do no more good for us with out doing much more harm first. After all the government is so fucking insane that it has declared civil war on itself. I am not sure when the declared date was and I darn sure know that does not matter compared to the threat of being droned, or patriot acted, or just having our door kicked in with grenades to follow up at a wrong address....because these people make those kinds of mistakes.... Everyone that voted for Rand made a mistake. Now they have an obligation to hit those polls one more time to fix that mistake and send a message.... unless they don't have paper ballots..... No paper ballot, stay home and make soap instead.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-26   5:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: titorite (#13)

Cheney.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-09-26   9:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Artisan (#12)

This is the woman rand threatened, abby martin, with the 4um logo: haha! She is a 911 truther from san diego.

She's pretty hot. Does she browse 4um at all?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-26   12:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FormerLurker (#16)

I can't view the pic, but could she have used her first name and then her husband's first name as a nom de guerre?

Just a thought...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-26   13:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#17)

I can't view the pic, but could she have used her first name and then her husband's first name as a nom de guerre?

Just a thought...

Didn't know she was married. Then again, most women worth knowing already are I guess.

But hmmm, now who around here has a handle which begins with "ab" I wonder... :)

I can think of one, but the last part of that handle would be an awfully odd first name for her husband.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-26   15:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#17)

As far as my own handle, no, my first name isn't Former, nor do I have a wife by the name of Lurker...

LOL


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-26   15:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker, Artisan, foxy lady, 4 (#19)

Maybe Artisan will weigh in with additional information for us.

We hope.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-26   15:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan (#12) (Edited)

Great pics there, Artisan. Reminds me of the days with Terry Anderson, who passed away July of 2010,and Glenn Spencer and others who believed in trying to protect our borders from illegals crossing our borders and terrorism. I'd be from downtown L.A. with Jim Gilchrist to W. L.A. in front of the FBI building. We made our voices heard.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/july-8-2010/death-terry-anderson-radio-host-champion-black-americans-against-unfair-i

purplerose  posted on  2012-09-27   1:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#0)

I really commend this young lady for not cowering to Rand Paul. Paul sounds like he's got some serious mental problems.

purplerose  posted on  2012-09-27   1:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lod (#17)

here is the pic lod. And no, no relation.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-09-27   13:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#16)

Does she browse 4um at all?

i doubt it. i dont know her personally but used to see her at various events when she was active in SoCal.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-09-27   13:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: purplerose (#21)

thanks. Yeah I knew Terry, he was a good guy. in the end he admonished one of his long-time loyal listeners for daring to mention the 'new world order garbage', and he later bought into the official story of 911. i sat with once at a conference with him and a lot of others (ccir) at a conferene where stan monteith was outling 911 and he sure didnt object then, ha ha. geez louise. Here is a pic of me and gilchrist in 08.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-09-27   13:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Artisan (#25)

Nice pic there, Artisan. I met Gilchrist on January 13th, 2007 downtown L.A. It was freezing outside and heading to the subway to downtown was not fun. But I went down there as there was a march involving the outrage of the coverup of Deputy David March who was killed in the line of duty while protecting the southern borders. Terry Anderson was there too. Barbara Coe and others were there also. I know that Terry didn't like to discuss matters concerning 911 because the FCC was watching him. He was cautious about what he said on his shows. I ran into him, and talk show hosts Ray Briem, and George Putnam several times. I really miss those guys alot.

purplerose  posted on  2012-09-27   14:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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