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Title: Will the Covert Become Overt? Drudge Reports that Romney Will Pick CIA Director Petraeus for VP
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URL Source: http://www.dailypaul.com/247901/wil ... cia-director-petraeus-for-veep
Published: Aug 7, 2012
Author: empireisalwaysevil aka Arator
Post Date: 2012-08-07 22:34:24 by christine
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Views: 317
Comments: 26

They've ruled us from behind the scenes ever since they shot JFK. I guess they figure it's time they made it official.

http://drudgereport.com/flashgp.htm

All hail the spook-state! National "security" uber alles! Please continue sacrificing your blood and treasure to gain the favor of these, your new gods!

Will we resist this decades-long treason against our Republic, or go quietly into the night of a new Dark Age?

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Good. Maybe the CIA director can help Romney find his tax returns.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-08-08   1:13:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Good. Maybe the CIA director can help Romney find his tax returns.

And citizenship documentation on his Mexican-born father. Or maybe some unknown number of the Senate will just specially declare Mitt a natural born citizen like they did for McCain but not others of similar circumstances.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-08-08   12:16:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but not others of similar circumstances.

Not that I like McCain - quite the opposite - but McCain's situation bears no resemblance whatsoever to that of the foreignerinchief. McCain was born to a US Naval Officer and his US citizen wife who were assigned to a US military installation in the Panama Canal Zone, tho not US proper, a US military base is as good as it gets for US territory facsimile situation.

Zero was born in Kenya to a Kenyan citizen, his father. Not only that but later Zero had an Indonesian passport per his step-father and traveled on that foreign country's passport as a student. The Hawaii birth certificate is bullsh*t. I don't believe Zero was born here for a millisecond.

Romney was born in Detroit. He is a "natural born" US citizen to 2 US citizen parents. What's your problem with Romney?

scrapper2  posted on  2012-08-09   0:48:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I explained at Post #7 of your 4um topic, Ron Paul: A notable omission from the list of speakers at the 2012 RNC, that Romney being born here doesn't equate to natural born citizenship. Because his father was a Governor and ran for President isn't proof that he was an American citizen. Globalists have long been trying to internationalize the office of our Presidency, spanning a century or more with their stealth coup-trickeries to do so. I suspect they're trying again to make it so neither party has a qualified nominee for the office, like they did in the 2008 election.

On McCain, I believe one intent of our Founders (as to the Article II, Section 1 natural born citizen requirement in the Constitution for Presidential office) was to do what they could to deter military excursions abroad and births on foriegn soil thereof which could compromise citizenship as well as allegiance. Here are references on why McCain was not qualified as a natural born citizen, despite whatever number of the Senate declared unilaterally that he was:

United States nationality law

The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 U.S.C. § 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was "declared" to be a United States citizen.

That means a citizen declared by statute, not a natural born citizen

theobamafile.com

A citizen "by statute" is any person born of US citizen parent(s) outside the United States -- think John McCain -- in this case, there is no foreign entanglement via parentage BUT there is a foreign entanglement via birthplace

Edited for spelling.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-08-16   1:25:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why are you bringing up McCain and Romney's father?

Mitt Romney is not either one of those aforementioned politicians.

According to the latest pronouncement on what constitutes "natural born" - since the Constitution does not define it and the Supreme Court has not ruled on it - the common agreed upon descripter is that natural born means being born in the USA or a territory under America's jurisdiction/control.

End of story.

Romney was born in Detroit, Michigan - it does not matter whether his parents were space aliens - it matters that he popped out of his Mom in Detroit, Michigan.

That's why the TeleprompterInChief went to great lengths to try to faux prove that he popped out of his Mom in Hawaii.

scrapper2  posted on  2012-08-16   1:55:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why are you bringing up McCain and Romney's father?

Mitt Romney is not either one of those aforementioned politicians.

I've been bringing up the McCain citizenship status issue since his run for the Presidency and have been questioning Romney's and his father's here since long before encountering you at this forum. But, a recap for you:

Shoonra commented that the CIA might help Romney find his tax returns and I commented with words to the effect that they might also be able to help him locate missing documentation on his father's citizenship status, as it concerns his own. Then you showed up and here we are.

On the rest of your post, the Constitution isn't a dictionary for the convenience of the willfully uninformed. Terms in it had established meanings when it was written. Vattel's Law of Nations is a reference our Founders were familiar with at the time on the issue of natural born citizens or not that you could research on the subject -- or do a 4um search for previous discussions here on the subject, many of which have extensive research and material posted within them for clarification. You clearly have a blurry concept of any distinctions between various citizenship status in this country but I assure you that there are agencies of government plural whose job it is to distinguish between them.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-08-17   1:13:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the Constitution isn't a dictionary for the convenience of the willfully uninformed. You clearly have a blurry concept of any distinctions between various citizenship status in this country but I assure you that there are agencies of government plural whose job it is to distinguish between them.

Oh really? And what a fabulous job these agencies and govt plural have done with assessing the Kenyan's natural born citizenship. I feel I have gotten my taxpayer money's worth, yes siree.

Oddly enough, I have not read Obama's name come up in your discussion regarding natural born citizenship - indeed, the most glaring example of a foreign interloper in the WH gets a pass from you.

The mind is a terrible thing to waste. Please stop being willfully uninformed and blurry about Barry Hussein Soetero's "big lie."

scrapper2  posted on  2012-08-17   3:52:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm getting the impression that you're just looking for an argument, scrapper, but I'm not your enemy on the Obama issue of natural born citizenship status. There are many a posts by me roundabout here on that subject going quite a ways back. I am concerned about the concerted and repeated attempts spanning a century or more to globalize the office of America's Presidency and others too, regardless of Party lables -- whether the stealth coup tactics stem from Obama's camp, Romney's and his father's during his candidacy, McCain's, Goldwater's, Chief Justice and Presidential candidate Hughes, Chester A. Arthur's, and whatever other such stunt-pullers have also attempted unqualified access to our offices -- and you are fixated on Obama as a partisan issue. Wherever he was born matters somewhat less to disqualify him than the fact that his father was Kenyan, not an American. You shouldn't object on that, as it simplifies the matter much. In closing, I don't think I've gotten my taxpayer money's worth either from the gov agencies whose job it is to distinguish between categories of citizenship status and follow through with enforcement when they should; as in Obama's case, Romney's, and McCain's, as well as others. On that, I think we can agree, if you're of a mind to do so.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-08-17   4:47:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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