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Title: Observations on the Aurora, Colorado, Shooting
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://lewrockwell.com/vance/vance299.html
Published: Aug 10, 2012
Author: Laurence M. Vance
Post Date: 2012-08-10 08:08:51 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 198
Comments: 14

By now the whole world has heard of the horrific shooting last month in the Denver suburb of Aurora, Colorado, at the Century 16 Theater during the showing of the new Batman movie.

There have been, and will continue to be, many observations made about the shooting, the shooter, guns, and gun control laws. Not in any particular order, here are mine.

1. Liberals have always believed in gun prohibition. They can openly talk about it now because of the shooting, just like they could openly talk about it after Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others that we never hear about any more were shot in Tucson, Arizona, and after the shootings at Virginia Tech and Columbine High School. But make no mistake; there are many members of Congress who would like to limit gun ownership to the military and the police. It is just not politically expedient for them to try to bring about until they are able to exploit a tragedy like the shooting in Aurora, Colorado.

2. You never know when your number is up. One day it is a headache; the next day it is an inoperable brain tumor with six months to live. One minute it is a trip to the movies; the next minute it is bullets flying. We should be prepared for the inevitable, spiritually and financially.

3. The suspect in the shooting, James Holmes, purchased all of his guns and ammunition legally, including passing a background check.

4. Guns didn’t kill those twelve people at the Century 16 Theater in Aurora, Colorado, the alleged shooter did.

5. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Old, trite, and overused – but still true. No one who is willing to commit murder cares a whit about obeying gun control laws. The federal government making something illegal doesn’t mean that suddenly no one has access to it. How many thousands or million of Americans smoked pot last year?

6. The suspect will have a trial. As he should. Just like Timothy McVeigh, Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Adolf Eichmann, and the Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg had a trial. Unlike those – including Americans – that are targeted for extra-judicial murder by President Obama.

7. The insanity defense is insane. The suspect in the shooting doesn’t need to have a psychiatric evaluation. He doesn’t need to be locked away in a mental hospital for the rest of his life to be studied and treated. He was mentally competent to purchase his Smith & Wesson M&P15 .223 semi-automatic rifle, his 12-gauge Remington 870 pump-action shotgun, and his Glock .40-caliber handgun. He was mentally competent to purchase his ammunition. He was mentally competent to plan his assault at the midnight Batman movie premier.

8. Everyone would be better off if the suspect killed himself like Columbine high school students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did after their horrendous deed.

9. There was no security at the Century 16 Theater in the Aurora, Colorado. The Cinemark theater in Aurora, like its other theaters, prohibits guns in the theater. And the theater complex didn’t have any uniformed security guards on duty the night of the shooting.

10. The war on drugs is targeting the wrong drugs. If James Holmes had been using marijuana and cocaine instead of being medicated by a psychiatrist, he probably wouldn’t have committed the despicable deed he is alleged to have committed.

11. The culture of violence that we hear so much about after shootings like the one that just occurred in Colorado is exacerbated by the government’s endless military interventions and glorification of the military.

12. There is a double standard in America when it comes to murderers. I don’t know if there are theaters in Afghanistan, but if U.S. soldiers enter a building in Afghanistan and kill twelve and wound fifty-eight – like James Holmes allegedly did in Colorado – they are lauded as heroes.

13. The chances of an American being killed by another American on American soil – by a gun, a knife, a car, or in a fight – are much greater than the chances of being killed by a terrorist. So why are U.S. troops in Afghanistan instead of in American movie theaters?

14. The federal government can do whatever it wants when it comes to gun control. Not because it should do something, and not because it has the authority under the Constitution to do anything, but because it has the raw power and the guns to do whatever it wants. The federal government is infinitely more dangerous than a deranged man with a gun.

15. Second Amendment or no Second Amendment, the federal government has no authority to regulate or ban guns of any kind.

16. Many conservatives – including those in the NRA – don’t believe the Second Amendment actually means what it says and says what it means.

There are many unanswered questions about the shooting in Aurora, Colorado, and especially regarding the shooter. Most of these observations will remain unchanged no matter what else comes to light.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

10. The war on drugs is targeting the wrong drugs. If James Holmes had been using marijuana and cocaine instead of being medicated by a psychiatrist, he probably wouldn’t have committed the despicable deed he is alleged to have committed.

10. The war on drugs is targeting the wrong drugs. If James Holmes had been using marijuana and cocaine instead of being medicated by a psychiatrist, he probably wouldn’t have committed the despicable deed he is alleged to have committed.

10. The war on drugs is targeting the wrong drugs. If James Holmes had been using marijuana and cocaine instead of being medicated by a psychiatrist, he probably wouldn’t have committed the despicable deed he is alleged to have committed.

10. The war on drugs is targeting the wrong drugs. If James Holmes had been using marijuana and cocaine instead of being medicated by a psychiatrist, he probably wouldn’t have committed the despicable deed he is alleged to have committed.

10. The war on drugs is targeting the wrong drugs. If James Holmes had been using marijuana and cocaine instead of being medicated by a psychiatrist, he probably wouldn’t have committed the despicable deed he is alleged to have committed.

I cannot think of any instance in recent memory where one of these flipped out psychos WERE NOT on one or more psychotropic drugs - Prozac seems the most common but Harris and Cliebold were on Zoloft. There is ALWAYS a Psychiatrist (often with government connections such as the Psych that Cliebold and Harris was seeing who has been tied to government Mind Control programs) and Psychotropic drugs involved and I can think of no exceptions.

What we need is not gun control but Psychiatrist Control - along with a ban on psychotropic drugs.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-10   9:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

Excellent article, the author nailed it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-08-10   10:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#1)

I cannot think of any instance in recent memory where one of these flipped out psychos WERE NOT on one or more psychotropic drugs

As I remember, they were not all on psychotropic drugs at the time of the crime. Some had stopped taking them. (Its not speed that kills but the sudden stop.) A sudden withdrawal can be very dangerous.

Ada  posted on  2012-08-10   14:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#3)

You are correct. According to Dr. Peter Breggin - the drugs are highly addictive and withdrawls can be accompanied by severe withdrawl symptoms - such as psychotic rages.

However, I think my comment is fair as each of the psychos was on one, or had been on one of these filthy psychotropic drugs and was in the withdrawl period (Eric Harris comes to mind).

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-10   14:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#4)

If he was on drugs, who was his supplier? The government shrink?

Ada  posted on  2012-08-10   16:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ada (#3) (Edited)

they were not all on psychotropic drugs at the time of the crime. Some had stopped taking them.

The big "catch 22."

The mind is permanently scrambled by the psychotropic drugs while they are used for an extended period of time, and the mind is permanently scrambled forever after the "patient" stops using them.

In Feb. of 2009, they forced 'em on me for 4 days in an American Psikhushka torture Catholic hospital directed by a psychologist, psychiatrist, hypnotherapist who was a U.S. Army Captain. He's since been promoted to Major.

I would estimate it took at least one year to fully recover from those four days of forced druggings. I was fortunate enough to avoid further kidnappings and "reprogrammed " myself. I used to be the "Mr. Nice Guy" type." Now it's no more "Mr. Nice Guy" for me.

My guess is that I was kidnapped, drugged and to be programmed to be a James Holmes or Jarod Lee Laughner by the U.S. Army and our U.S. government.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2012-08-10   19:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sizzlerguy (#6)

Most psychiatrists know that patients on industrial strength anti-psychotic drugs must be weaned from them gradually. Maybe the government shrink didn't do that.

Ada  posted on  2012-08-11   8:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#5)

If he was on drugs, who was his supplier? The government shrink?

Data insufficient, but I suspect that is likely the case. Lots of disinformation is now beginning to show up so it is becoming a sorting out process.

As with all of the preceding killers the one thing that the mASS media is trying to obscure is the link to psychotropic drugs and those who prescribe them.

I think one of the things that people have trouble getting their mind around is that some people, such as those who prescribe these drugs, operate from a hidden agenda and evil purposes.

Something I pointed out on another forum long ago is that most people can grasp the concept of a corner stick-up man robbing the local gas station or 7/11 but crime on a continental, societal, or world girdling scale causes them to blank out. They simply cannot confront it nor grasp it. Evil on a really massive scale is a frightening thing, and to some degree I understand the reaction, but that also does not successfully fight it.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   10:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ada (#7)

Once the psychiatric drugs are used for any extended period of time, the damage to the brain is permanent.

To slowly wean off someone whose brain has been permanently destroyed by those toxic chemical poisons will not ever restore the original mind of that "victim."

During the "weaning off" process, the brain tries to reconnect the billions of damaged and disconnected neurotransmitters to the neuroreceptors, but they don't and cannont ever reconnect in the original way that they were originally connected which causes more chaos withing the "victims" brain.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2012-08-11   18:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sizzlerguy (#9) (Edited)

It turns my stomach what is being done to people under the guise of "help".

"The mental health establishment has snowed the American people: it launches the most unimaginable brutal psychological and physical assault on human beings in distress, calls this 'medical treatment', and then blames the outcome on 'mental illness'. Seth Farber, PhD

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   18:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sizzlerguy, Ada (#9)

"The similarities between street drug abuse and psychotropic prescription drug use are disturbing. Both types are toxic. Both can cause psychosis, damage the brain and other organs, and even cause death. And neither type of mind-altering drugs, legal or illegal, treats disease. It's important to recognize that the only significant difference between many prescription psychotropic drugs and street drugs such as "speed" and "downers" is that prescription drugs are legal." Neuro-psychiatrist Sydney Walker in "Dose of Sanity"

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   19:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#10)

It turns my stomach what is being done to people under the guise of "help".

The motive for their disguised "help," deployed by American psychiatrists, psychologists, sociologists, the-rapists, social workers, the medical establishment, law enforcement, the courts, the crooked lawyers, the bankers, organized religion, the FBI, the CIA, the military, the government, and the ruling class elitist pigs as a whole is all about "glorious conformity."

To make all the "surfs" obedient with one single morality, one single belief. Worship "them."

Conform to the "norm." Accept their lies. Be a liar, believe what the ruling class establishment pigs tell us to believe.

Conform to that "norm," or be murdered, decieved, robbed, kidnapped, slowly and methodically tortured and chemically lobotomized if the "surf" resists.

Their unwritten message is, "Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated."

Their tactic is slow torture, a chemical lobotomy and death for anyone who ain't one of "them."

sizzlerguy  posted on  2012-08-12   2:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sizzlerguy (#12)

And it can all be summed up as a psychotic drive to control. Everyone must be under control, or so the elites think, for them to be safe from being held to account for their crimes. Of course that won't be enough because the "demons" driving them are in their own twisted minds.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-13   9:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ada, All (#0)

9. There was no security at the Century 16 Theater in the Aurora, Colorado. The Cinemark theater in Aurora, like its other theaters, prohibits guns in the theater. And the theater complex didn’t have any uniformed security guards on duty the night of the shooting.

Did it even have smoke alarms and a sprinkler system? Odd how two gas canisters were supposedly used without setting anything like that off.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-08-14   20:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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