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Title: Paul Ryan Selected as O'romney's Puppet-Mate
Source: 4um
URL Source: http://None
Published: Aug 11, 2012
Author: Me
Post Date: 2012-08-11 10:29:41 by Original_Intent
Keywords: fraud, crime, duplicity, Yawn
Views: 488
Comments: 35

Well, as has been speculated for months O'romney's chosen running mate for the next round of (s)Election Bread and Circuses is Paul Ryan.

Other than to point out the predictability of the selection I'll leave this up as a "Jump Ball" should anyone care to share their disgust.

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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Since the mexican doesn't appear capable of jumping over a piss-puddle of his own making, I'll go with the kenyan/plugs team in this year's farce.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson

Lod  posted on  2012-08-11   10:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

I'm still reading the Tea Leaves but the PTB seem to be trying very hard to create the illusion of a real "race" so as to keep the Sheeple from upchucking and simply revolting.

I'm not sure at this point who we are going to be stuck with, not that there is much difference between the two - other than vacuous rhetoric.

The key issue breaking the bank and bogging economic growth is military involvement where we should not be involved and the taxes required to support it. Neither pseudo-candidate is talking about that or about reducing the military budget to a reasonable level. Instead we continue to spend more than the rest of the world combined fighting wars and imposing hegemony on people who are no threat - to us.

The growth of the Surveillance State continues unabated.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   10:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent, Cynicom, 4 (#2) (Edited)

Agree - excellent break-down of our sorry, stupid condition here.

I'm just about ready to join Cyni in non-participation.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson

Lod  posted on  2012-08-11   11:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Until now, Romney merely had to defend his own record and was not being made to answer for the Congressional Republicans' dirty tricks. But by picking one of the main instigators of the Congressional nastiness, he has now taken on the burden of defending the indefensible. Romney was sinking so he grabbed himself an anvil.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-08-11   11:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#0)

I laugh at the people on FR and LP who are ecstatic about this choice. WTF cares about the VP? The pulled this same shit last election cycle with Palin. Is Ryan going to make Robamny any less liberal? How? Is Ryan going to be the behind the scene power like Big Dick Cheney was? Highly doubtful.

The job of most VP's is to take care of the flunky shit the president doesn't want to do. What does Biden do all day? A whole lotta nothing. What did AlGore do? A whole lotta nothing. Attended functions and events deemed not important enough for the president to attend. MAYBE vote in the Senate to break a tie.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-08-11   11:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#3)

non-participation.

Sir Lod...

Ryan was a worshiper of Alisa Rosenbaum from day one, until it conflicted with his Catholic religion and his desire to enter politics.

Ayn Rand was rather open about calling the masses "lice" and that whatever happened to them was of no concern.

Both Rand and Ryan hated ALL government programs, yet, Ryan was raised on Social Security benefits and Rosenbaum/Rand departed this world on Social Security and Medicare.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-08-11   11:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom, 4 (#6)

(Great to see'ya back!)

The Know-Nothing Party was 160 years ahead of its time.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson

Lod  posted on  2012-08-11   11:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#7)

Sir Lod...

There are two educational backgrounds that are negative to me in the dirty business of politics.

One is a degree in law, the other is a BA in political science.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-08-11   12:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#2)

keep the Sheeple from upchucking and simply revolting.

I'm finished with upchucking since I no longer consume the wicked drink. The revolt is soon to come. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-11   13:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#8)

One is a degree in law, the other is a BA in political science.

I'm no lawyer, and I'm long out of politics since I left Chicago. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-11   13:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#6)

Rosenbaum/Rand departed this world on Social Security and Medicare.

Well, once again, you've rung the bell here, Cyni. If Wiki is to be believed, you are right.

Rand underwent surgery for lung cancer in 1974 after decades of heavy smoking.[83] In 1976 she retired from writing her newsletter and, despite her initial objections, reluctantly allowed Evva Pryor, a consultant from her attorney's office, to sign her up for Social Security and Medicare.[84]

There's a principled objectivist for ya. I might have had a bit more respect for her if she'd gone down on whatever income her boring books yielded her. I could never get past page 40 of that pretentious twaddle.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-08-11   13:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Shoonra (#4)

Until now, Romney merely had to defend his own record and was not being made to answer for the Congressional Republicans' dirty tricks. But by picking one of the main instigators of the Congressional nastiness, he has now taken on the burden of defending the indefensible. Romney was sinking so he grabbed himself an anvil.

Voting for Obama is like backing up the Titanic and having a second run at the iceberg. I would rather vote for Romney than the Kenyan any day of the week. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-11   13:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Shoonra (#4)

Until now, Romney merely had to defend his own record and was not being made to answer for the Congressional Republicans' dirty tricks. But by picking one of the main instigators of the Congressional nastiness, he has now taken on the burden of defending the indefensible. Romney was sinking so he grabbed himself an anvil.

To some degree irrelevant. As we both know the pResident decides little of substance and his agenda is written for him. O'Romney is a flip flopping political Prostitute and will flop whichever way his, and Obama's, Bankster Masters dictate.

Witness the decision not to prosecute Goldmine Sacks, Fist and Furious, and capitulation to the Israel Lobby (hand wringing and screaming aside he has toed the line).

The only real and significant difference is the "Brand Name", and at this point in American Political History that is not very significant.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   13:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#5)

I laugh at the people on FR and LP who are ecstatic about this choice.

Pa-thet-ic.

Ryan is nothing more than insuring that the VP is a "made man".

And as you rightly point out the only significant function of the VP is as "understudy".

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   13:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#3)

Agree - excellent break-down of our sorry, stupid condition here.

Thanks. One thing that caught me on O'Romney's speechifying this morning was something that has been little, if at all, commented on by the talking heads is the line about doing away with "Obamacare" and replacing it with something else. In other words he is still looking at sticking us with Nationalized Phamacare. ("All the better to kill you with my dear.")

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   13:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

The situation we are in is definitely revolting.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   13:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#11)

I could never get past page 40 of that pretentious twaddle.

Twaddle it was and is. She disdained working as that was for the masses.

Rosenbaum also glorified a man that butchered a little girl, cannot recall his name, she portrayed him as a free thinking man, superior to the rest of of us.

Rosenbaum was ugly as sin to boot.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-08-11   13:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#0)


Subgate - W. Mitt Romney & Paul Ryan bribing Wisconsin voters

The DA decided, it's only a felony if Ron Paul does it.


My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.

hondo68  posted on  2012-08-11   13:45:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#18)

The DA decided, it's only a felony if Ron Paul does it.

I'm shocked!

Do you hear me?

SHOCKED!

NOT!

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   13:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#15)

Thanks. One thing that caught me on O'Romney's speechifying this morning was something that has been little, if at all, commented on by the talking heads is the line about doing away with "Obamacare" and replacing it with something else. In other words he is still looking at sticking us with Nationalized Phamacare. ("All the better to kill you with my dear.")

I just posted a video I seen on another site concerning the "difference" between Robama and Obamny that deals with this subject that you might find interesting.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-08-11   13:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#18) (Edited)

only a felony if Ron Paul does it

A revolting development. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-11   14:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#15)

In other words he is still looking at sticking us with Nationalized Phamacare.

That may be the case. It is not good for the average American in any case. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-11   14:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#20)

Thanks. One thing that caught me on O'Romney's speechifying this morning was something that has been little, if at all, commented on by the talking heads is the line about doing away with "Obamacare" and replacing it with something else. In other words he is still looking at sticking us with Nationalized Phamacare. ("All the better to kill you with my dear.")

I just posted a video I seen on another site concerning the "difference" between Robama and Obamny that deals with this subject that you might find interesting.

Interesting. Do you perchance have a link?

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   14:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#23)

Interesting. Do you perchance have a link?

Here

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-08-11   14:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: BTP Holdings (#22)

In other words he is still looking at sticking us with Nationalized Phamacare.

That may be the case. It is not good for the average American in any case. ;)

The PTB definitely want socialized hellthcare - I suspect to help speed up the depopulation program.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   14:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#24)

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=148700

Thank You.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   14:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#6)

Ayn Rand was rather open about calling the masses "lice"

Alice Rosenbaum was not an American but a Russian Jew. I call "Atlas Shrugged" the Talmud Lite.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-08-11   15:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent, Lod, Cynicom (#2)

Picking Ryan was an attempt to hang onto the "conservative" vote since all the conservatives talking heads were touting his budget plan back when.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-08-11   15:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent, Lod, Cynicom, Turtle, abraxas (#28)

Ryan is only 60% on the Freedom Index which tracks Constitutional voting. Ron Paul is 100%.

Freedom Index


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-08-11   16:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Turtle (#27)

Alisa Rosenbaum always reminded me of Alfred Rosenberg.

Both were mentally sick.

Akin to so many Jews, Rosenberg denied he was a jew. Born in the Baltic states somewhere, raised and educated in Russia, moved to Germany, pedaled his sick racial theories off on Hitler, just as Rosenbaum did with Americans.

Rosenberg got himself hanged, Rosenbaum from her grave finds Americans that will follow any perverted Pied Piper.

Paul Ryan is one.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-08-11   16:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: farmfriend, Lod, Turtle (#29)

Ryan has said in the past that Rands books were a "necessity" in his life.

Now he is not so sure.

Others here love Ludwig von Mises, another non jew jew.

von Mises wrote this to Ayn Rand....

"As the economist Ludwig von Mises wrote in praise of Rand’s other major novel, Atlas Shrugged, “You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the effort of men who are better than you.”

So much for Ryan and other Rand/Mises knee padders.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-08-11   16:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom, 4 (#31)

shamelessly copied from a freedom-minded email - enjoy -

The 19th-century British individualist Auberon Herbert addressed the issue of the "good of the greatest number." He stated, "There never was invented a more specious and misleading phrase. The Devil was in his most subtle and ingenious mood when he slipped this phrase into the brains of men. I hold it to be utterly false in essentials."

Why is it false? Because the phrase assumes as a given that a higher morality requires the violation of individual rights. Or in Herbert's words, "It assumes that there are two opposed 'goods,' and that the one good is to be sacrificed to the other good -- but in the first place, this is not true, for liberty is the one good, open to all, and requiring no sacrifice of others, and secondly, this false opposition (where no real opposition exists) of two different goods means perpetual war between men." [Emphasis added.]

Herbert is relying on two intimately related theories: first, "the universality of rights"; and, second, "a natural harmony of interests." The universality of rights means that every individual has the same natural rights to an equal degree.

Race, gender, religion or other secondary characteristics do not matter; only the primary characteristic of being human is important. A natural harmony of interests means that the peaceful exercise of one person's individual rights does not harm the similar exercise by any other person.

My freedom of conscience or speech does not negate my neighbor's. The peaceful jurisdiction I claim over my own body does not diminish anyone else's claim of self-ownership. Indeed, the more I assert the principle of self-ownership, the stronger and more secure that principle becomes for everyone.

Only in a world where rights are not universal, where people's peaceful behavior conflicts, does it make sense to accept the need to sacrifice individuals to a greater good. This is not the real world, but one that has been manufactured for political purposes.

Herbert explained a key assumption that underlies this faux world: the acceptance of the "greater good" itself. He asked, "Why are two men to be sacrificed to three men? We all agree that the three men are not to be sacrificed to the two men; but why -- as a matter of moral right -- are we to do what is almost as bad and immoral and shortsighted -- sacrifice the two men to the three men? Why sacrifice any one... when liberty does away with all necessity of sacrifice?"

Herbert denied the validity of "this law of numbers, which... is what we really mean when we speak of State authority...under which three men are made absolutely supreme, and two men are made absolutely dependent." Instead of accepting the law of numbers as an expression of greater good, Herbert viewed it as a convenient social construct, calling it "a purely conventional law, a mere rude, half-savage expedient, which cannot stand the criticism of reason, or be defended... by considerations of universal justice. You can only plead expediency of it."

To whom was the social construct of conflict convenient? Why would a faux world of inherent conflict be created? By solving the manufactured problems, a great deal of power was transferred from individuals to a ruling class.

Herbert wrote, "The tendency of all great complicated machines is to make a ruling class, for they alone understand the machine, and they alone are skilled in the habit of guiding it; and the tendency of a ruling expert class, when once established, is that at critical moments they do pretty nearly what they like with the nation..."

Rather than solve a social problem, the ruling class had a devastating effect on the welfare of common people, who became "a puzzled flock of sheep waiting for the sheepdog to drive us through the gate." Ironically, by claiming the collective was greater, the few were able to assume control over the many. The "greater good" devolved to whatever served the interests of the ruling class.

But the process can be reversed. It requires "individualizing" the collective and the nation so that "will, conscience and judgment" can return to every person.

At that point, society offers people "the noblest present" and the greatest benefit possible -- "their own personal responsibility."

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson

Lod  posted on  2012-08-11   17:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#31)

von Mises wrote this to Ayn Rand....

He also called her "a poor ignorant little Jewish girl." He as right about that at least.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-08-12   1:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod (#1)

Since the mexican doesn't appear capable of jumping over a piss-puddle of his own making, I'll go with the kenyan/plugs team in this year's farce.

Seconded!

Sigh.... tis the pity Jared lee loughner couldn't of gone beserk during an inaugural. Nation might be alot better off if the " powermongers that be" had to select new puppets on the fly.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-08-12   4:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#25)

I suspect to help speed up the depopulation program

That is what I think, as well. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-13   16:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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