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Title: Paul Ryan Selected as O'romney's Puppet-Mate
Source: 4um
URL Source: http://None
Published: Aug 11, 2012
Author: Me
Post Date: 2012-08-11 10:29:41 by Original_Intent
Keywords: fraud, crime, duplicity, Yawn
Views: 471
Comments: 35

Well, as has been speculated for months O'romney's chosen running mate for the next round of (s)Election Bread and Circuses is Paul Ryan.

Other than to point out the predictability of the selection I'll leave this up as a "Jump Ball" should anyone care to share their disgust.

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Since the mexican doesn't appear capable of jumping over a piss-puddle of his own making, I'll go with the kenyan/plugs team in this year's farce.

Lod  posted on  2012-08-11   10:33:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm still reading the Tea Leaves but the PTB seem to be trying very hard to create the illusion of a real "race" so as to keep the Sheeple from upchucking and simply revolting.

I'm not sure at this point who we are going to be stuck with, not that there is much difference between the two - other than vacuous rhetoric.

The key issue breaking the bank and bogging economic growth is military involvement where we should not be involved and the taxes required to support it. Neither pseudo-candidate is talking about that or about reducing the military budget to a reasonable level. Instead we continue to spend more than the rest of the world combined fighting wars and imposing hegemony on people who are no threat - to us.

The growth of the Surveillance State continues unabated.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-11   10:45:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Picking Ryan was an attempt to hang onto the "conservative" vote since all the conservatives talking heads were touting his budget plan back when.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-08-11   15:56:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ryan is only 60% on the Freedom Index which tracks Constitutional voting. Ron Paul is 100%.

Freedom Index

farmfriend  posted on  2012-08-11   16:10:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ryan has said in the past that Rands books were a "necessity" in his life.

Now he is not so sure.

Others here love Ludwig von Mises, another non jew jew.

von Mises wrote this to Ayn Rand....

"As the economist Ludwig von Mises wrote in praise of Rand’s other major novel, Atlas Shrugged, “You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the effort of men who are better than you.”

So much for Ryan and other Rand/Mises knee padders.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-08-11   16:32:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

shamelessly copied from a freedom-minded email - enjoy -

The 19th-century British individualist Auberon Herbert addressed the issue of the "good of the greatest number." He stated, "There never was invented a more specious and misleading phrase. The Devil was in his most subtle and ingenious mood when he slipped this phrase into the brains of men. I hold it to be utterly false in essentials."

Why is it false? Because the phrase assumes as a given that a higher morality requires the violation of individual rights. Or in Herbert's words, "It assumes that there are two opposed 'goods,' and that the one good is to be sacrificed to the other good -- but in the first place, this is not true, for liberty is the one good, open to all, and requiring no sacrifice of others, and secondly, this false opposition (where no real opposition exists) of two different goods means perpetual war between men." [Emphasis added.]

Herbert is relying on two intimately related theories: first, "the universality of rights"; and, second, "a natural harmony of interests." The universality of rights means that every individual has the same natural rights to an equal degree.

Race, gender, religion or other secondary characteristics do not matter; only the primary characteristic of being human is important. A natural harmony of interests means that the peaceful exercise of one person's individual rights does not harm the similar exercise by any other person.

My freedom of conscience or speech does not negate my neighbor's. The peaceful jurisdiction I claim over my own body does not diminish anyone else's claim of self-ownership. Indeed, the more I assert the principle of self-ownership, the stronger and more secure that principle becomes for everyone.

Only in a world where rights are not universal, where people's peaceful behavior conflicts, does it make sense to accept the need to sacrifice individuals to a greater good. This is not the real world, but one that has been manufactured for political purposes.

Herbert explained a key assumption that underlies this faux world: the acceptance of the "greater good" itself. He asked, "Why are two men to be sacrificed to three men? We all agree that the three men are not to be sacrificed to the two men; but why -- as a matter of moral right -- are we to do what is almost as bad and immoral and shortsighted -- sacrifice the two men to the three men? Why sacrifice any one... when liberty does away with all necessity of sacrifice?"

Herbert denied the validity of "this law of numbers, which... is what we really mean when we speak of State authority...under which three men are made absolutely supreme, and two men are made absolutely dependent." Instead of accepting the law of numbers as an expression of greater good, Herbert viewed it as a convenient social construct, calling it "a purely conventional law, a mere rude, half-savage expedient, which cannot stand the criticism of reason, or be defended... by considerations of universal justice. You can only plead expediency of it."

To whom was the social construct of conflict convenient? Why would a faux world of inherent conflict be created? By solving the manufactured problems, a great deal of power was transferred from individuals to a ruling class.

Herbert wrote, "The tendency of all great complicated machines is to make a ruling class, for they alone understand the machine, and they alone are skilled in the habit of guiding it; and the tendency of a ruling expert class, when once established, is that at critical moments they do pretty nearly what they like with the nation..."

Rather than solve a social problem, the ruling class had a devastating effect on the welfare of common people, who became "a puzzled flock of sheep waiting for the sheepdog to drive us through the gate." Ironically, by claiming the collective was greater, the few were able to assume control over the many. The "greater good" devolved to whatever served the interests of the ruling class.

But the process can be reversed. It requires "individualizing" the collective and the nation so that "will, conscience and judgment" can return to every person.

At that point, society offers people "the noblest present" and the greatest benefit possible -- "their own personal responsibility."

Lod  posted on  2012-08-11   17:39:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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