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Title: 'Joe the Plumber': U.S. should build a fence on the Mexican border and 'start shooting'
Source: The [Cleveland] Plain Dealer
URL Source: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index ... he_plumber_us_should_buil.html
Published: Aug 15, 2012
Author: Sabrina Eaton
Post Date: 2012-08-15 01:12:17 by hondo68
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: laws need to be enforced, Put troops on border, and start shooting, want my borders protected
Views: 221
Comments: 14

SAMUEL-JOE-PLUMBER-WURZELBACHER.JPGSamuel "Joe the Plumber" Wurzelbacher.

Ohio Republican congressional candidate Samuel "Joe the Plumber" Wurzelbacher plunged into controversy this weekend in Arizona by delivering speeches where he said the United States needs to build a fence along the Mexican border and "start shooting."

At a Prescott, Arizona fundraiser for Arizona State Sen. Lori Klein, Wurzelbacher applauded Klein's stance against illegal immigration as he denounced political correctness.

"We're afraid to say anything because we are afraid someone will report it on the 5 o'clock news," said Wurzelbacher, of Holland. "For years, I've said put a damned fence on the border going to Mexico and start shooting. I am running for Congress and that should be a bad thing to say. You know what? It's how I feel. I am not going to hide it because I am running for an office. I want my borders protected and I am very, very adamant about that."

Controversial Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who is known for his crusades against illegal immigration, also spoke at the fundraiser for Klein.

Wurzelbacher explored the illegal immigration theme again at a Patriot Rally in Arizona, where he suggested: "Put troops on the border and start shooting. I bet that solves our illegal immigration problem real quick."

"It's a scary world out there, and I always feel a lot damned better when I got my .45 in my hand," Wurzelbacher told the group.

Both of Wurzelbacher's speeches were posted on the Internet by Prescottenews.com

Wurzelbacher's remarks were denounced by the Arizona Democratic Party, which issued a statement that said they provided "another black eye for Arizona."

Wurzelbacher's rival for a congressional seat that stretches between Cleveland and Toledo, Toledo Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur, issued a press release that said his comments "have no place in a civil society."

"A Member of Congress is sworn to uphold the Constitution, not to take the law into his own hands," said the statement from Kaptur. "He should take back his words and apologize to everyone who respects life, the Constitution and the rule of law."

Wurzelbacher spokesman Phil Christofanelli said the candidate understands that people want to come to the United States because "it's the greatest country on Earth," and that its laws need to be enforced so it can remain the greatest country on Earth.

"As a Congressman, Joe would empower the federal government to do whatever it takes to secure our borders," said Christofanelli. "He believes that border security agents, like every law enforcement officer, should be permitted to use force when necessary in order to protect themselves and to prevent American laws from being violated."

Given the fact that Kaptur's campaign is heavily funded by labor unions, Christofanelli said "you would think she would care more about preserving American jobs."

Wurzelbacher spent Monday in Wisconsin, where he was campaigning on behalf of former Gov. Tommy Thompson's GOP bid for U.S. Senate. He told Patch.com that his wife hails from Wisconsin and he hopes to move his family to its north woods "in the next couple of years, provided he can find a job."


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It's about time, that someone noticed that we're being invaded by Mexico!


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

It's about time, that someone noticed that we're being invaded by Mexico!

The late, great, Tony Snow smacks you down from beyond the grave:

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what border??

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-08-15   1:45:58 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

I need to move back to Wisconsin. Or maybe move to the UP.

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-08-15   11:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0)

U.S. should build a fence on the Mexican border and 'start shooting'

Personally, I liked the idea about putting a turnstyle on the Mexican border. They can come and go as they please, but they have to be counted and their destinations put on record.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-22   18:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#2)

maybe move to the UP.

Da UP is a desolate place. Not many people. Houses are few and far between. Not much up there but mining camps for copper and iron. All of the old timber camps are long gone.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-22   18:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#1)

I recall when the Kool-Aid man visited the old neighborhood in Chicago. I was telling the little kids to punch him. The house he pointed at, the old woman had some Kool-Aid. Not sure what she won, but it wasn't much. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-22   18:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#0)

The invasion from Mexico is nothing compared to the traitors in our midst, the elite bankers. Most Mexicans are hard working people just looking to survive. Sure I would rather they survive in Mexico, and most of them would prefer that too, but the Mexican government is making that very hard for them to do.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-08-22   18:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

Not many people.

Just the way I like it.

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-08-22   18:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#6)

This guy can get away with saying shoot the Mexican invaders, even though they are not the root of our problem, but if he dared say shoot at the root, the elite bankers, he wouldn't last long.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-08-22   18:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: RickyJ (#6)

Most Mexicans are hard working people just looking to survive

I recall a story from a while back. A helicopter was flying over a farm field and a bunch of the Mexican workers started to run. One kid was running with them. His Dad said, "Why are you running. You were born here." ROTFLOL

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-22   18:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#7)

Not many people.

Just the way I like it.

Where I am in SW Missouri is called the "Bible Belt" simply because there are so many churches of so many denominations.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-28   17:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: RickyJ (#6) (Edited)

the traitors in our midst, the elite bankers

Look up Eustace Mullins. He wrote some good exposes on the banksters.

Mullins was the last protege of Ezra Pound.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-08-29   17:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

It's about time, that someone noticed that we're being invaded by Mexico!

Actually, everyone knows it. But we can't delay (or shoot-let's get back to Earth) the elite's labor pool, crucial in helping rich folks maintain their comfy lifestyles while hedging against the plunging value of The Fraud. (this guy actually believes that Frauds are collateral-ized).

I mean, think about it. If you have bazillions in the market working for you and their devaluation nearly cancels out your rates of return, and then you (some rich folks) are taxed on profits for which no special exemption yet exists, wouldn't you demand that govt allow you to pay 3rd world wages, with no social security match or health insurance outlays for many herds of modular, disposable browns?

There's a reason why rich folks don't make much noise about "dollar" (sic) devaluation or "undocumented workers". They're planning extinction for the greedy, spoiled Americans who cruelly savage wealth with their exorbitant demands. American worker chutzpah is such that we now aspire to live in suburban McMansions with enough money to take vacations, buy boats and second summer homes and even send our kids to college!

You need only look at the plight of non unionized pilots, many of whom can qualify for food stamps and with little hope of repaying their student loans to see how the "ee-lights" intend to adjust the pay scales for workers they can't yet dump on. (Too many pilots + not enough jobs = poopy wages for those who cannot collectively bargain against giant airlines)

Fortunately, my trade faces no competition from Mohados but after 9/11 the local electrician's union sent 200 plus "travelers" back to their homes to sit on their benches and then the local placed 200 of their own electricians on the bench. And, that number only included people who still wanted to work. Many electricians just give up and work in other "scab" trades or they stay home with "The Oxycontin Blues".

No, like it or not Mexican labor has been woven into our fabric since the 1942 Bracero Program when Mexican migrant workers were imported to perform work that "Americans won't do". Shortly after, other trades and occupations complained about this perk to BIG AG, demanding equal access to cheap labor in exchange for their hefty contributions to "the parties in DC fighting for us!" (after all the fighting they claim to be doing for us they should look like "the alley cat who lost to BIG TOM" instead of tanned with capped teeth and thoroughly refreshed after their regular "Monica Massage" entitlements)

And, conveniently, there will never be enough agents to respond in a timely when volunteers round up illegals at the border. In fact, the govt would prefer to arrest the volunteers but that would cause a backlash and cost politicians some seats.

Because legalizing wholesale cheap labor would be politically untenable, particularly for reps who run every two years, the de facto system of immigration with only token enforcement by La Migra (and no penalties for the employers) has been honed to a point where any industry that wants to use cheap labor in large numbers may do so. And whenever the subject comes up politicians scratch their heads and play make believe, as if it's a problem for which no solution exists.

Shooting 'em at the border is born of frustration when the solution is very simple; jail employers who hire illegals, then watch as millions of unemployed head South, back to their villages just to taste Mamasita's delicioso comida again.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-08-29   18:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BTP Holdings (#11)

Look up Eustace Mullins. He wrote some good exposes on the banksters.

Mullins was the last protege of Ezra Pound.

Eustace was a courageous patriot and a genius.

His facts were indisputable, his conclusions irrefutable.

And, Ezra (the poet, patriot and radio personality when radio was the tool of the century) did a 13 year stretch in a mental ward for fingering the non Christian beneficiaries of our air-based unmunny system swindle.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-08-29   18:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68, *The Border* (#0)

Mexican police open fire on US embassy car - Telegraph

Mexican federal police shot at a US diplomatic car as they chased criminals south of Mexico City on Friday, in a chaotic incident that left two US embassy employees wounded.

24 Aug 2012

The two staffers, along with a Mexican marine accompanying them, were treated for their wounds at a hospital and are out of danger.

The Mexican navy and public security ministry said federal police officers were conducting anti-crime opertions in the area when the incident took place.

The US embassy trio were heading to a military installation in the town of El Capulin when they were approached by a vehicle whose unidentified passengers displayed weapons, the navy and ministry said in a joint statement.

"The driver of the diplomatic vehicle used evasive maneuvers and when it returned on the highway, the passengers in the attacking vehicle opened fire on the diplomatic vehicle," the statement said.

"Moments later three other vehicles joined the chase and shot at the US embassy vehicle," it said.

The statement did not specify who the four attacking vehicles belonged to, or whether it was police bullets that wounded the three victims.

It said, however, that the US diplomatic car "was hit by multiple bullets from personnel of the federal police on the Tres Marias-Huitzilac highway."

Photos at the scene showed an SUV with diplomatic plates riddled with bullet holes and its tires blown out.

[sic]

The US State Department said in a brief statement that the two embassy employees had received "appropriate medical care and are in stable condition."

"We are working with Mexican authorities to investigate an incident this morning in which two employees of our embassy in Mexico City came under attack by unknown assailants," said State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

The two wounded employees were taken to a hospital in the city of Cuernavaca, some 55 miles south of Mexico City.

The newspaper Reforma, citing Mexican marine sources, identified the US citizens as Jess Hoods Garner, 49, and Stan Dove Boss, 50.

After the shooting, the army and the police closed a 10-kilometre stretch of highway as well as access to a wooded area around the scene of the incident near the town of Tres Marias.

[sic]

The incident came 18 months after two US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents were shot while driving in a car between Mexico City and the northern city of Monterrey in February 2011.

One of the agents, Jaime Zapata, died in the attack by members of the feared Los Zetas cartel.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-08-29   23:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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