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Title: Major General: Why Are Domestic Government Agencies Purchashing Enough Lethal Ammunition to Put 5 Rounds In Every American?
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Major General: Why Are Domestic Government Agencies Purchashing Enough Lethal Ammunition to Put 5 Rounds In Every American? George Washington's picture Submitted by George Washington on 08/20/2012 11:40 -0400

Federal Reserve Iraq Martial Law Middle East national security New York Times NOAA Ron Paul SPY

Preface: There might be an innocent explanation. But given recent trends, this is worrisome.

Retired Major General Jerry Curry wrote Friday:

The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S.

***

Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.

What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.

Potentially each hollow nose bullet represents a dead American. If so, why would the U.S. government want the SSA to kill 174,000 of our citizens, even during a time of civil unrest?

***

If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.

In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.

***

All of these rounds of ammunition can only be used to kill American citizens, though there is enough ammunition being ordered to kill, in addition to every American citizen, also every Iranian, Syrian or Mexican. There is simply too much of it. And this much ammunition can’t be just for training, there aren’t that many weapons and “shooters” in the U.S. to fire it.

***

We have enough military forces to maintain law and order in the U.S. even during times of civil unrest.

***

This is a deadly serious business. I hope I’m wrong, but something smells rotten. And If the Congress isn’t going to do its duty and investigate this matter fully, the military will have to protect the Constitution, the nation, and our citizens.

Why are government agencies doing this?

Major General Curry asks a troubling questions:

We have local police, backed up by each state’s National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense. So in addition to all these forces why does DHS need its own private army? Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?

This may sound like a conspiracy theory …

But remember that Senator Daniel Inouye said in 1987:

There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.

The Federal Reserve – which is not exactly federal (and see this)- also has its own police force. See this and this.

Chalmers Johnson called the CIA the President’s private army.

But that’s nothing compared to JSOC. As John Glaser wrote in February:

For the past decade, we’ve seen the rise of a secret, unaccountable U.S. military force … Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) is an unwieldy private army at the command of the President, and him only. And they conduct military and spy missions all over the world, never receiving formal congressional approval ….

“Without the knowledge of the American public,” wrote Nick Turse back in August, “a secret force within the U.S. military is undertaking operations in a majority of the world’s countries. This new Pentagon power elite is waging a global war whose size and scope has never been revealed.” According to a recent Congressional Research Service report, JSOC forces “reportedly conduct highly sensitive combat and supporting operations against terrorists on a world-wide basis.” As the New York Times this week reported:

The Special Operations Command now numbers just under 66,000 people — including both military personnel and Defense Department civilians — a doubling since 2001. Its budget has reached $10.5 billion, up from $4.2 billion in 2001 (after adjusting for inflation).Over the past decade, Special Operations Command personnel have been deployed for combat operations, exercises, training and other liaison missions in more than 70 countries. Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, Special Operations Command sustained overseas deployments of more than 12,000 troops a day, with four-fifths committed to the broader Middle East.

JSOC operates outside the confines of the traditional military and even beyond what the CIA is able to do.

***

But it goes well beyond the war zones. In concert with the Executive’s new claims on extra-judicial assassinations via drone strikes, even if the target is an American citizen, JSOC goes around the world murdering suspects without the oversight of a judge or, god forbid, granting those unfortunate souls the right to defend themselves in court against secret, evidence-less government decrees about their guilt. As Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh said at a speaking event in 2009:

Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on.***

Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us….

[Marc Ambinder told Wired]:

There are legal restrictions on what the CIA can do in terms of covert operations. There has to be a finding, the president has to notify at least the “Gang of Eight” [leaders of the intelligence oversight committees] in Congress. JSOC doesn’t have to do any of that. There is very little accountability for their actions. What’s weird is that many in congress who’d be very sensitive to CIA operations almost treat JSOC as an entity that doesn’t have to submit to oversight. It’s almost like this is the president’s private army, we’ll let the president do what he needs to do.

An End-Run Around the Constitution?

Remember, we’ve gone from a nation of laws to a nation of powerful men making laws in secret. A nation where Congressional leaders themselves aren’t even allow to see the laws, or to learn about covert programs. A nation where Congressmen are threatened with martial law if they don’t approve radical programs.

National security powers are being used to help big business, to the detriment of the American people.

Veterans returning from the front lines are labeled “potential terrorists”, to the horror of both the Republican and Democratic leadership.

This is not surprising, given that tyrannical regimes always crumble when the footsoldiers refuse to carry out draconian measures.

Indeed, active duty military personnel are big Ron Paul supporters. And see this. Because liking Ron Paul – as well as liking liberty or the Founding Fathers – may get one branded as a potential terrorist these days, there may be some friction between active military folks and the government as well.

We’ve been in a continuous state of National Emergency for 11 years. The Constitution has so thoroughly been shredded that it – literally – unclear whether we are still living in a constitutional form of government.

Because military folks are sworn to defend the Constitution, many still would not allow the imposition of overt, full-scale fascism without a fight. See this and this.

As such, Major General Curry’s speculation is chilling, indeed:

Is the purpose [of the lethal ammunition purchases] to kill 174,000 of the nation’s military and replace them with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) special security forces, forces loyal to the Administration, not to the Constitution?

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#1. To: All (#0)

Inouye was spot on:

"There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself."

These are the same people responsible for 9/11. They are the only group with the resources, the manpower, the power, the capital, the web of secrecy to protect them from discovery, that could pull 9/11 off. Their agenda is not that of the people (duh!).

The 4 trilliion dollars in Pentagon spending that vaporized? Building 7 in freefall? The missing CIA, FBI, files, the missing Federal reserve Gold in the basement of building 7? Guilliani's 'command central'? The Arabs getting out of the US carte blanche? Take all the anomolies and add them up and you have the shadow government in charge. Obama and Mittens will do what they are told - llke every president siince Kennedy has done. And if you don't do as told…well, you get Wellstoned. Either your plane goes down, you commit suicide, you get murdered by some burglar, your car crashes, you die from radiation poisoning…you get the picture.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-08-20   21:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#0)

It's bureaucrats preparing to protect their turf should there be an Arab Spring against their victimization of American taxpayers and gross ineptitude in administering the nation in a fair and business-like fashion. Also, ammo purchases serve as a psychological deterrent against an uprising. Can't rely on the military whose members may well side with the people.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2012-08-21   1:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#0)

None of these agencies purchased this ammo - you taxpayers bought it. It's really that simple. Taxpayers are arming the predator FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OWNED govt. NOTICE This govt is not your constitutional friend, it's the bankers assassination force. They murder patriots, presidents and piss ants like you.

The cabal that runs this "murder incorporated" must laugh their asses off when they watch the mullets run to the Post Office on April 15th each year to pay for their own destruction.

It's like paying the mafia for protection. Blogging may relieve one of pent up angst but it doesn't directly address the issues at hand. Americans know something's terribly wrong and the supposed protector of liberty has become the oppressor.

Americans, get off of your fucking knees. Uncle Sambo is a car jacking, baby killer and you will either resist or die begging for mercy.

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-08-21   5:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3)

Americans, get off of your fucking knees.

They're not in enough pain.

There are 2 kinds of people. I dont see a 3rd kind.

1) They see what the PTB are doing to others as well as themselves, and have therefore decided to tell the PTB to go fuck themselves.

2) Others have seen what the PTB has done, is doing, and will continue to do, and they dont care. Not only do they not care, but they get pissed off at those that do take action against the PTB. And they will never care until they get bitchslapped themselves, and even then there is no guarantee, because they are nothing but sheep. Sheep get sheared. So, fuck 'em. Let them die begging for mercy from their masters. People get what they want.

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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-08-21   9:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-08-21   9:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest?

The Battle of Armageddon/Gog and Magog

http://www.firstchurchoftheinternet.org/studies/pitts.htm / http://www.firstchurchoftheinternet.org/studies/pitts2.htm / http://www.firstchurchoftheinternet.org/studies/pitts3.htm

Ezekiel 38:11And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages [ bible.cc/zechariah/2-4.htm : http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/ ] ; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, 12To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations [ bible.cc/isaiah/11-11.htm ], which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. 13Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof [ bible.cc/romans/9-26.htm / bible.cc/romans/8-14.htm ], shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

14Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel [ http://www.preteristarchive.com/...provan-charles_dd_01.html ] dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? 15And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts [ bible.cc/1_samuel/3-20.htm : http://watch.pair.com/dan.html ], thou, and many people with thee , all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: 16And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land [ http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/ : Micah 4:1-2/ bible.cc/psalms/2-6.htm ], that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

http://kingjbible.com/ezekiel/38.htm

Revelation 20:7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog [ http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm / http://mysite.verizon.net/ress8o...andmagogwellitaintrussia/ (Sampson, was tribe of Dan http://watch.pair.com/dan.html , the book of Enoch claimed his god was Lucifer)/his people settled in Greece/Javan/some of his symbols were the serpent, dog, eagle www.jesus-is-savior.com/E...m/satan_on_our_dollar.htm ], to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city [ bible.cc/psalms/87-2.htm / bible.cc/psalms/2-6.htm = http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/ ]: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

bible.cc/revelation/20-9.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-08-21   10:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA2 (#5)

Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?

Lafayette Tillman Collection, ca. 1870s - 1900 Kansas City Museum Accession Nos: Commemorative Sword 1972.903.a,b Photos and papers, C14, PC1.131 and PC1.131.a Dimensions vary

Lafayette Alonzo Tillman Pellom McDaniels III, PhD

Photography is recognized as a significant and widely acclaimed art form used to record life as it has unfolded. Within the converging contexts of America’s development as a nation, African American history and the pursuit of full-citizenship rights and privileges, photographs of African Americans in general and African American men in particular have become important windows to the past. This is especially so as they relate to the pursuit of a publically recognized and acknowledged sense of manhood. Black men from the late 19th and early 20th centuries being portrayed as middle-class professionals are noteworthy examples of African Americans claiming the American dream. Indeed, these images are representations of effective and enduring counter-narratives to the prevailing discourse of white supremacy that has advanced the mythological notion of people of African descent as inferior defective types. The photographs in the Lafayette Alonzo Tillman Collection at the Kansas City Museum are invaluable examples of one man’s life pursuit of honor and respectability in an America that did not value blackness.

Born during slavery on March 15, 1858 in Evansville, Indiana, Lafayette Alonzo Tillman would be fortunate not to experience the harshness of the peculiar institution less than 100 miles away to the “South” in the state of Kentucky. In fact, Evansville was one of a number of gateway cities in Indiana that provided access to the Underground Railroad, assisting runaway slaves with food, shelter and safe passage to Canada. Information about Tillman’s childhood is fragmented, but there are a number of reflections accounting the death of his father when Tillman was five years old, as well as an assessment of his academic success within the public school system of Indiana. What is more, Tillman’s abilities and scholastic achievements provided him with the foundation he would need in pursuit of a college education at Oberlin College in Oberlin, Ohio, and at Wayland Seminary School in Washington, D.C.

At Wayland, Tillman studied theology in preparation to become a Baptist minister, while simultaneously developing his musical talent as a singer. Professor James Storum, the African American educator who became the first principal at Virginia Normal and Collegiate Institute in 1883, encouraged this ability. By the late 1870s, Tillman’s strength as a bass soloist and his moral uprightness and virtuous nature attracted a number of prominent singing groups ready to take advantage of his rich voice and his gentlemanly decorum. African American singing groups such as the Fisk Jubilee Singers and the Tuskegee Institute Choir entertained both blacks and whites, and served as nationally and internationally recognized ambassadors who educated white patrons about African American culture through song and intimate interactions.

Performing with the New Orleans University Singers and the Donovan Tennesseeans of Philadelphia, Tillman was provided a number of opportunities to tour the eastern and midwestern United States, as well as Europe. (In 1884, in the “Blue Room” at the White House, Tillman and his New Orleans University Singers performed for then-President of the United States, Grover Cleveland. In the special program, Tillman performed his solo “The Laughing Song.”) In 1880, while traveling through the Midwest and performing at both black and white churches, Tillman and the Tennesseeans performed in Kansas City, where his proficiency as a singer gained him local fame as an entertainer. Tillman’s apparent fondness for the growing town and its 7,914 African Americans prompted his move to Kansas City. In 1881 he began a career as an entrepreneur, opening a restaurant at 105 East 12th Street, in the heart of the African American community.

The Kansas City Museum’s Tillman Collection provides an opportunity to examine the life and experiences of one of Kansas City’s most prominent African American citizens. His efforts to create a space to achieve a sense of success for himself, his family and his community defined, for those paying attention to his example, the social, political and cultural responsibility of a “race man.” For Tillman this meant the acceptance of the constant pressure of carrying himself as an exemplar of virtuous behavior, while simultaneously requiring the same from his community. Through a close examination of the letters, documents, artifacts and photographs found in the Tillman collection, it becomes very clear that Tillman understood the importance of reputation. Maintaining a public persona of righteousness was a necessary strategy to claiming one’s citizenship and manhood, and as a result the opportunity to securing one’s future.

By 1896, Tillman had married Amy Dods of St. Louis, Missouri, closed his restaurant, opened his own barber shop near the corner of 12th Street and Grand Avenue and had begun pursuing his interest in law at Kansas City Law School. The 1890s are recognized as the beginning of segregation in America and the nadir of African American life and history. Blacks in general and black men in particular were being lynched at a rate of 100 per year. Thus the ideological foundation of Jim Crow in the United States served to shape the experiences of a majority of black men and women within the nation’s imagined borders. However in Kansas City there would be a difference in how African Americans experienced their lives in the margins. This is especially so for Tillman whose public pursuits were significant to the unfolding narrative of African American life in Kansas City.

Of the many photographs in the Tillman Collection is the image of him as a member of the Kansas City Police Department (ca. 1906). This can be viewed as an example of the dignity, pride and respectability African Americans were striving to achieve during the early part of the 20th century. Interconnected social, cultural and political tensions informed Tillman’s particular style of masculinity and it is important to account for the African American middle-class in Kansas City. They maintained Victorian values and expectations in their quests to transform themselves and their communities into spheres of respectability. Tillman’s philosophical approach challenged both the internal and external expectations of African American men to claim their full citizenship rights through their public performances of manhood. A civic minded individual, businessman and community leader, Tillman’s rise to prominence in Kansas City was based on his performativity of character, responsibility and moral uprightness. However, it would be his background as a college educated man, his service as a soldier during the Spanish-American War and his relationships with a number of key people in Kansas City that would be the catalyst to securing his future.

In 1898 Tillman achieved the rank of Quarter-Master Sergeant in Company “K” of the 7th Regiment of the United States Volunteers. He was never deployed to the Philippines during the Spanish-American war, but nevertheless demonstrated his commitment to excellence as a soldier. This would be accounted for by his superior officers who had full faith in his abilities and recognized and applauded his outstanding leadership qualities. This was a turning point for Tillman’s career. Indeed, because of his commitment to excellence he would be honored by the Aurora Democratic Club of Kansas City, which boasted a membership roster that included Alderman James Pendergast, brother of future Kansas City “Boss,” Tom Pendergast. Acknowledging Tillman’s achievements, the Aurora Democratic Club presented the Sergeant with a uniform and an engraved sword which is inscribed: “Presented to Lieutenant L.A. Tillman/49th Regt/In recognition of his high personal character and fidelity to principle by his Kansas City friends and fellow members of Aurora Democratic Club.” The local recognition would secure Tillman’s future in Kansas City, and contribute to his future success in the military.

During the 1899 “Filipino Insurrection” by citizens of the Philippines against U.S. rule, Tillman received an appointment as First Lieutenant of the Forty-Ninth Volunteer Infantry from President William McKinley. Tillman would likely have been stationed in Manila at the same time as Lieutenant Charles Young, the third African American graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point, and before World War I the highest ranked African American solider in the US military. After serving two years in Luzon in the Philippines, Tillman was honorably discharged and he returned to Kansas City.

Clearly, Tillman’s life and career both refuted and denied any notion of black inferiority and ineptitude. Having gained and maintained a reputation for loyalty, bravery and respectability, Tillman’s connections to influential white Kansas Citians provided him with the needed recommendations to qualify him to the Board of Police Commissioners as a worthy police officer candidate. He was the third black police officer to serve in the Kansas City Police force, after William F. Davis and Robert Alexander. He served with distinction from 1903 until his death in 1914 [from chronic intestinal nephritis]. The range of contributions made by Tillman through his public presence and authority, as well as the degree to which his representation of black potentiality and respectability accelerated the future development of the African American community in Kansas City, has yet to be fully understood.

There can be no doubt that Lafayette Alonzo Tillman’s life was filled with individual success and achievement. Through the Tillman Collection we can see a shining example of manhood, citizenship and patriotism at one time believed impossible to achieve by African American men.

Pellom McDaniels I, PhD. Assistant Professor of History and American Studies, University of Missouri-Kansas City

References Roland Barthes, 1981, Camera Lucida

Charles E. Coulter, 2006, Take Up the Black Man’s Burden: Kansas City’s African American Communities 1865-1939

Kevin Gaines, 1996, Uplifting the Race: Black Leadership, Politics, and Culture in the Twentieth Century Michele Mitchell, 2004, Righteous Propagation: African Americans and the Politics of Racial Destiny after Reconstruction

Martin Summers, 2004, Manliness & Its Discontents: The Black Middle Class & The Transformation of Masculinity, 1900-1930

William H. Young and Nathan B. Young, Jr, 1997, Your Kansas City and Mine

Biography: Pellom McDaniels I, PhD, is an Associate Professor in History at the University of Missouri–Kansas City. He joined UMKC after receiving his doctorate in American Studies from Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia.

McDaniels’ publications include: My Own Harlem (1998); So, You Want to be Pro (2000), “We’re American Too: The Negro Leagues and the Philosophy of Resistance” in Baseball and Philosophy: Thinking Outside the Batter’s Box (2004); reviews in Hampton University’s International Review of African American Art related to the work of artists Kadir Nelson and Hale Woodruff.

McDaniels is a former NFL defensive end who played from 1993-1999. McDaniels joined the Kansas City Chiefs in 1992 and was an integral part of their heralded defense. While a member of the Chiefs organization, McDaniels become a voice for Kansas City’s children while contributing the resources needed to begin the Arts for Smarts foundation. Programs like “Pellom and I Like Art”, Wee Art, the “Fish Out Water” Writing program, and Smart Starts were designed to help children and young adults recognize and realize the possibilities for their futures.

The Community Curator program of Kansas City Museum invites historians and history educators to share their perspectives on artifacts they choose from the Museum collection. This provides fresh insight about artifacts and collections of Kansas City Museum and Union Station, and welcomes diverse input from the Kansas City history community. Community Curator lectures are presented the third Sunday of each month in Collections Storage at Union Station Kansas City, allowing the actual artifact to be presented with the observations of our Community Curator.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-08-21   10:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6) (Edited)

Gordon Duff made an interesting comment:

"....ROMNEY BIRTHER QUESTION

Father George and son Mitt Romney

Few are aware but George Romney, father of Mitt, was born in Mexico. What fewer know is that his parents had fled the US and renounced their American citizenship.

They never had it renewed, instead entered the US illegally through Mexico with their Mexican born son, father of Mitt Romney.

This would make Romney, Mitt Romney, the son of an illegal alien.

This was a confusing time in American history, with Mormons fighting two wars against the United States, not just over polygamy but over the genocide that the Mormon Dannites practiced against Christians.

Finding this history, as with much more, will be a challenge. Mormon history is one of violence, some perpetrated by Mormons, massacres, and some against.

However, it did lead to two wars, 1858 and 1880, where Mormons rebelled against the United States, many fleeing the country, renouncing citizenship and many returning without complying with required oaths of allegiance or following citizenship guidelines.

To an extent, even today, areas of Mormon majority inside the US tend to follow theocratic law, not unlike Sharia law, rather than English Common Law as expressed through the Constitution.

Ask a Christian who shows up in a Mormon based court.

Ah, but this is, part and parcel, the nature of regionalism, is it not?"

Let it Begin Here, the American Armageddon

http://www.veteranstoday.com/201...-the-american-armageddon/

"If There is a Satan, His Home is America"

by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

Funny, that's what Rev. Hunt said more than 400 years [Genesis 15:13-14/Galatians 3:16,17...29:The United States Is Still a (Judeo) British Colony Extorting Taxes for the Crown] ago:

"Four hundred years ago yesterday, the world changed for the better.

A cross was planted in the ground and a prayer was offered to heaven. The cross was planted literally, but it was also planted spiritually.

The event was the first landing of the Jamestown settlers. One hundred and four of them arrived at Cape Henry on April 26, 1607. We remember the event as the “First Landing,” but it might be better known as “Covenant Day” for America.

The rude wooden cross they stuck in the Virginia ground was more than an ebenezer of thanksgiving to God’s providence. In fact, it was an actual gauntlet thrown in the face of the enemies of Christianity. It was a legal and spiritual challenge to all comers that declared, “This land now belongs to Christ and His people.”

The man who stood with the colonists and directed his men in prayers to the Lord was the Rev. Robert Hunt, a man of impeccable character and heartfelt faith who was described by Capt. John Smith as “that honest, religious, courageous, divine.”

Hunt represented the heart of the mission of the Jamestown colony. The Virginia Charter of 1606 made it clear that while enterprise and prosperity were important goals of the colony, Gospel evangelism was the first mission of the settlers. Through his personal example, winsome dialogue, and spiritual leadership, Rev. Hunt worked to make this purpose for colonization a reality at Jamestown. He would take the message of covenant faithfulness to God, communicated so powerfully at the First Landing, and implement the principles supporting this covenant in the daily life of Jamestown.

When the settlers actually arrived at Jamestown, Rev. Hunt again walked his men to the shore and “gathered his flock around him without delay.” Here again, prayer was the first order of the day. Standing in their midst under the trees, Hunt declared for the first time in the Western world the solemn invocation: ‘The Lord is in His Holy Temple; Let all the earth keep silence before Him” (Habakkuk 2:20).

Each morning and evening, Rev. Hunt lead his people in the following prayer:

Almighty God, … we beseech Thee to bless us and this plantation which we and our nation have begun in Thy fear and for Thy glory … and seeing, Lord, the highest end of our plantation here is to set up the standard and display the banner of Jesus Christ, even here where Satan’s throne is, Lord, let our labour be blessed in labouring for the conversion of the heathen. … Lord, sanctify our spirits and give us holy hearts, that so we may be Thy instruments in this most glorious work.”....."

http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/

http://www.america-betrayed-1787.com

Conspiracy in Philadelphia

by Gary North

I have just posted my latest book, Conspiracy in Philadelphia: The Origins of the U.S. Constitution. The book is complete, except for the index. I am hoping that all of you will download it, print it out, read it, and spot typographical and other errors. Send these errors to me, so that I can make the corrections, print out a final version, and index it. I don't want to do a second index.

If things go well, 20% of you will download it, 20% of downloaders will read it (4%), and 20% of these (0.8%) will send typos to me.

This book is an update of Part 3 of my 1989 book, Political Polytheism. While still available as a hardback from Christian Liberty Press (847-259-4444, ext. 6), that book is broader in scope than this version. Part 3 is also shorter and less documented.

The book's thesis is, even for me, controversial. I provide 400+ pages of evidence that the Constitutional Convention of 1787 was in fact an illegal coup d'état. The participants knew this. This is why they took a lifetime oath of secrecy, walked upstairs to the second floor of the State House (so that eavesdroppers could not report what was going on), closed the doors, and hammered out the design for a replacement government. Newspaper reporters were excluded.

These men had been authorized by Congress and by several state legislatures only to revise the Articles of Confederation (1781), but not replace them. Knowing full well that they planned to replace the Articles with a new form of government, the leaders of the Convention nevertheless agreed to the terms laid down by the state legislatures, and then went off to Philadelphia to begin the first stage of a political revolution.

The story of this second American revolution is not told in the public school textbooks or in the "Christian America" seminars that are dear to the hearts of Christian home schoolers...... http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north291.html / http://www.garynorth.com/philadelphia.pdf

Satan On Our Dollar!

The Masonic Seal Of America [Scratch "America", insert THE UNITED STATES, Judeo-British ( www.seekgod.ca/identity.htm ) Corporation ].

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/E...m/satan_on_our_dollar.htm

Revelation 20:7-9

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-08-21   11:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#7)

The range of contributions made by Tillman through his public presence and authority

Those contributions being? That it somehow avoided a 20 to life scholarship to Nigger University?

That entire tl;dr article is no different than the ass-kissing of the tuskeeegee airniggers, or the niggers-built-the-pyramids nonsense, the niggers invented this that and the other, or the white devil stole the nigger knowledge 6 trillion years ago (malcolm Xcrement) etc. It's all lies that are told so the nigger can feel good about itself.

I was rather hoping that someone would bring out the G. W. Carver or other "black inventors" nonsense. Oh well, maybe next time.

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Can you demonstrate a single instance in history where incursion by niggers blacks has resulted in excellence, prosperity, or improvement owing to their presence, inventiveness, or disposition?

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-08-21   12:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#3)

NOTICE This govt is not your constitutional friend, it's the bankers assassination force. They murder patriots, presidents and piss ants like you.

Nice summery of the reality we have been pressed into.

NATO IS the banksters enforcement team.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-08-21   19:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA2 (#4)

They're not in enough pain.

There are 2 kinds of people. I dont see a 3rd kind.

1) They see what the PTB are doing to others as well as themselves, and have therefore decided to tell the PTB to go fuck themselves.

2) Others have seen what the PTB has done, is doing, and will continue to do, and they dont care. Not only do they not care, but they get pissed off at those that do take action against the PTB. And they will never care until they get bitchslapped themselves, and even then there is no guarantee, because they are nothing but sheep. Sheep get sheared. So, fuck 'em. Let them die begging for mercy from their masters. People get what they want.

I agree with your response 99.9% - and I am a proud member of the 1st class of people you mentioned.

I think we must continue to awaken others to the evil they've been indoctrinated to accept as the norm, focusing on those in positions of authority.

A local JP (Justice of Peace) stepped down shortly after I asked her how she could screw her relatives, neighbors, and friends over traffic citations that are truly commercial in nature and don't apply to the average man or woman.

Today, I count this JP and her husband as very close friends. We socialize frequently and they have actually become preppers to the max !

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-08-23   5:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tom007 (#10)

and piss ants like you.

Nice summery of the reality we have been pressed into.

NATO IS the banksters enforcement team.

I'm thinking "that didn't come out right"

And, I'm glad you didn't take the comment personally - cause it wasn't meant that way.

You're right - NATO is the banksters Guido (enforcement) !

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-08-23   5:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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