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Title: Paul Ryan's Speech Proves The New Political Truth: It's Fine To Lie
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URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/paul ... l-truth-its-fine-to-lie-2012-8
Published: Aug 30, 2012
Author: hb
Post Date: 2012-08-30 14:12:49 by tom007
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Paul Ryan's Speech Proves The New Political Truth: It's Fine To Lie Henry Blodget | Aug. 30, 2012, 12:04 PM | 3,714 | 57 inShare4 Email More There was once a time when lying in a political speech--and getting called out on it by the media--was shameful or embarrassing. Not anymore. Now, says Jeff Greenfield, the veteran political analyst and Yahoo News columnist, the media is held in such low regard by Americans that getting called out for lying merely serves to confirm a widespread belief that the "liberal media" has an axe to grind against conservative politicians. As a result, the whoppers that dominated Republican VP candidate Paul Ryan's convention speech last night will likely not hurt the candidate's standing with Republican voters, says Greenfield. Rather, they'll reinforce the right-wing view that the media is "in the tank" for President Obama. For those who do care about the truth, though, it's worth noting that even FOX News described Ryan's speech as "deceiving." (The FOX columnist, Sally Kohn, also called the speech "dazzling" and "distracting." And Ryan did have some wonderful lines, especially one about how the job market is so bad that today's college graduates have nothing to do but go home to their parents houses and lie on their beds staring at "fading posters" of Obama.) The descriptions of the speech from other observers, meanwhile, ranged from "factually shaky" to "fibs" to "lies." What facts in particular were observers up in arms about? Well, for starters, there were once again the claims that Obamacare cuts $716 billion of benefits from Medicare and that Paul Ryan wants to preserve Medicare. The truth is that Obamacare reduces payments to hospitals and doctors by $716 billion, not benefits. Also, far from preserving Medicare, after a 10-year grace period, Romney and Ryan want to radically change it. Then Ryan blamed S&P's downgrade of US debt on Obama, when S&P explained explicitly that its downgrade was the result of Congressional Republicans--Ryan included--threatening to cause the country to default. Then Ryan accused Obama of lying to voters in his home state by promising to keep a GM plant open for "hundreds of years" after he was elected, only to have it closed in the first year. The truth is that GM closed the plant before Obama took office. And so on. Jeff Greenfield says that none of this will matter to voters, who will just blame the media and its silly "fact-checkers." And he's presumably right. But it's worth noting that Ryan's distortions came only one day after New Jersey Governor Chris Christie promised the country that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan were leaders who were bold and brave enough to give America the "hard truths" that it so desperately needs to hear (and we do desperately need to hear them). There were certainly some truths in Ryan's speech--unemployment, for example, is much higher at this point in the recovery than President Obama said it would be--but there were also some lies. Recommended For You Read more: www.businessinsider.com/p...-lie-2012-8#ixzz253Qr8hwy
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
Damn. Backdoor method to try and shine a positive light on Obongo. All politicians lie. All members of the media are liars.
Worse yet Americans are increasingly dependent upon the liars and remain in a state of denial rather than rid themselves of these scumbags "forever" ! Tom, it's impossible to determine which party lies more. "In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison." Thoreau
The author using Greenfield as the source for truth is a joke. That joo (Greenfield) has been so lousy in HIS reporting of the facts that even the lying MSM has reduced their dependence on him for news/reporting.
My take also, as if Greenfield has a patent on truth telling. As liars, politicians are at the bottom of the list. next come MSM news people and then come car salesmen.
You forgot Liars, woops Lawyers, or do I repeat myself.
Politicians, car salesmen, and lawyers are some of the biggest liars. And, all of your contributions to Social Security go into the General Revenue Fund. There is no "Social Security Trust Fund". ;) And, voting for Obummer is like riding on the Titanic and backing it up to take a second shot at the iceberg. My sister, who lives in Chicago, said she could not vote for Obama, so she voted for McCain. I told her she still voted for evil since both candidates are members of the Council on Foreign Relations. Both are internationalists. Now, Obama wants the U.N. to control our guns. It will never happen. There will be a new revolution before the U.N. gets our guns. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
It will take a Republican president to get that done. Take the guns away that is. "More than any time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total extinction. Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -- Woody Allen Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
#2. To: Cynicom, Tom007 (#1)
All politicians lie.
#3. To: Cynicom (#1)
Backdoor method to try and shine a positive light on Obongo.
#4. To: Phant2000, noone222 (#3)
The author using Greenfield as the source for truth is a joke
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
#6. To: tom007 (#0)
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#7. To: BTP Holdings (#6)
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Now, Obama wants the U.N. to control our guns. It will never happen. There will be a new revolution before the U.N. gets our guns.
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