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Title: How 9/11 Was Done
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Published: Sep 3, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-09-03 14:09:24 by tom007
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How 9/11 Was Done For additional notes see the accompanying blog 911notes.blogspot.com. Prologue Read the following two screens of text to learn what happened at 9/11. 9/11 was a master plot, concocted by a handfull of Israelis and dual passport Americans and carried out by the resources of the Mossad. Larry Silverstein leases a nearly worthless dinosaur WTC building complex (worthless due to the asbestos the buildings were stuffed with and needed to be cleaned up, the cost of which may have rivaled the value of the buildings themselves) weeks before 9/11, makes sure it is over insured against terrorist acts and hires an Israeli security firm. From that moment on the coast is clear to let a team of demolition experts from the Israeli army led by Peer Segalovitz into the WTC buildings. These charges plus detonators had been prepared at the premises of the Urban Moving Systems company, a Mossad front. During the weeks before 9/11 these prepared charges were loaded into vans, driven into the basements of WTC Twin Towers next to the elevator shaft, unloaded into the elevator, and lifted onto the roof of the elevator through the opening in the elevator ceiling. Next the elevator moved from floor to floor while charges where being attached to the columns as displayed in this video from 0:22 onwards. The detonators of these charges were radiographic controlled and finally detonated from WTC7 on the day of 9/11. Fast backward, Hamburg 54 Marienstrasse, july 2000, 22:40. Mohamed Atta, Al Shehhi and Jarrah (who were later blamed of being the pilots of flight 11, 175 and 93 respectively), who share the apartment hear the ringing of the door bell. Jarrah opens the door, 5 masked men make their way into the apartment with drawn pistols. The 3 Arabs are forced to lay on the ground. Their passports are confiscated, next the 3 men are made unconscious with some liquid and strangled to death afterwards. The bodies are carried out of the apartment into a van and driven off towards a desolate spot at the boarding of the Elbe river outside Hamburg, 1 kilometer north of Borstel and disposed of into the river with a bag filled with stones tied to their feet. The 3 passports are now in the possession of the agents of the Mossad, who carried out the raid on the apartment and 3 Arabs have vanished without anybody knowing that they are dead. Not long after the raid the 3 passports are given to 3 Israeli agents who were selected on having some resemblance with the 3 Arabs just killed. They make for America soon afterwards in the summer of 2000 and start laying a trail at flight schools, posing with the stolen identities from the 3 Arabs killed. Years earlier the israeli Michael Goff working for PTech, an Arab owned software company that develops key enterprise software for many government institutions like NORAD and FAA, using his secure channel with another israeli Amit Yoran, somehow manages to give Israeli army computer programmers access to this critical computer code. It was due to this manipulation that the hijackings on 9/11 remained unnoticed by the flight controller of NORAD. Once this was in place the planes could be taken over by remote control and flown into the World Trade Center. The hijacking of airliners by remote control had been tested as a dress rehearsal for 9/11 on the Egypt Air flight 990 that crashed into the Atlantic on October 31, 1999. Now everything was in place to commit the crime of the century. On the day of 9/11 the Israeli stand-ins for the ‘Arab hijackers’ showed up at the predestined departure airports to make sure they were captured on surveillance camera’s. The crucial point here is that the security at both the departure airports was in hands of an Israeli firm Huntleigh-USA, a subsidiary of the Dutch based but Israeli owned ICTS led by a fellow named Menahem Atzmon. And this is crucial: Atzmon used to be a colleague of Olmert in 1998. So there you have the link between the 9/11 operative level (an airport security firm) and the highest level of Israeli politics. What happened on the morning of 9/11 was that after the Israeli stand-ins were captured on camera, they left the airport via a side entrance and the show could begin. Minutes after the planes became air born somebody somehow was able to send a signal to the planes, causing the control panels to be disabled and the flight destination altered. What happened was that an anti-hijack system was activated (code word ‘home run’) and the regular pilot was put out of control. This pilot will probably have tried frantically to regain control of his aircraft. It is not very likely he will have told his passengers about the new situation since that would only cause panic. The passengers probably suspected nothing and hence had no reason to make any phone calls to their relatives (which were not possible anyway). And while the 9/11 passengers unsuspecting travel towards their immanent deaths, on the ground from a war room Israeli agents carry out phone calls to relatives of the passengers that were still in the air, using voice morphing technology and caller-ID spoofing and thus planted the Arabs-did-it-deception in the public consciousness. The sound samples necessary to carry out the fake telephone calls had been obtained via the israeli infiltration of American telephone networks by Israeli firms like Amdocs and Verint. By the time that the passengers were puzzled as they discerned the New York sky line it was already too late. Meanwhile on the other side of the Hudson river the members of the Israeli team that planted the demolition charges were waiting for things to happen. And while the rest of New York experienced in horror the events that were unfolding that day, the demolition experts were celebrating and high-fiving. The plot had worked out magnificently. *** Please save this page to your local hard drive *** This blog is the verbal expression of an adaptive learning process. Please come back regularly. Core Argument Ok, I admit. Some elements in this story are speculative. I do not know for instance if Atta was killed in Germany or in America. But the story is an coherent educated speculation. It is an attempt to reconstruct the events of 9/11. Myriads of web sites exist that expose the inconsistencies in the official story, that obviously is a fraud. This story offers an integral explanation of what could have happened and in all likelihood more or less did happen at 9/11 as there can be hardly any doubt about who was behind 9/11 if one rejects the official story. Some elements remain vague, like what happened exactly to WTC7, flight77, flight93 or Mohamed Atta. But these questions are of academic interest only. It’s clear who was behind 9/11 and what happened in detail with WTC-1/2 and the planes. That is enough. Here’s where most people got killed. The rest of the plot can be uncovered by a tribunal. In order to prevent that you get swallowed up by yet another 10 meters of screen text here is the core of the argument. The story is based on 2 broadly accepted postulates: 1) WTC was brought down by controlled demolition 2) The ‘dancing Israelis’ on the morning of 9/11 had foreknowledge of things to come These 2 premises are enough to put the Official Conspiracy Theory (Arabs did it) out of business. Premise 2 leads to the preliminary conclusion that the Israelis had foreknowledge because they organized the attacks themselves. Since Israelis are not known to commit suicide attacks we have to assume that the airplanes that crashed into their destinations were remote controlled. If one accepts this as a working hypothesis than there is a lot, I mean really a lot, of material that supports this Israeli Conspiracy Theory that replaces the official Arab Conspiracy Theory. We have the dedicated Zionist Silverstein who leases the WTC complex and over insures it against terrorism (leading to a hansom profit); we know that security at all departure airports and ‘arrival airports’ (WTC) was in Israeli hands (Huntleigh-USA and Kroll Associates, resp.); we know that the owner of Huntleigh-USA, Menachem Atzmon, a convicted criminal, had strong ties to Ehud Olmert, that is the highest level of Israeli politics; we also know that the Israeli secret service can eavesdrop on virtually everybody in the USA via Israeli owned companies like Amdocs and Verint which gave the Mossad the possibility to obtain sound samples of future 9/11 passengers to apply voice morphing to in order to make the fake phone calls on 9/11. And of course there is Dov Zakheim, the real mastermind of 9/11 who was CEO of SPC for 4 years prior to 9/11, a company that produces systems for remote control of airplanes. The same Zakheim that was a member of the Zionist dominated PNAC group, that more or less plotted for a global American empire, and suggested that a ‘New Pearl Harbor‘ (page 51) could speed things up a bit; and finally the same Zakheim that 6 months before 9/11 became supervisor of a group of Pentagon comptrollers that had to sort out what had happened to the 2.3 trillion dollars that were missing from the Pentagon books; many of these comptrollers conveniently got killed on 9/11 and much of the financial data went with them. This is the core of the story. Note: I am not claiming that 9/11 is solved. Of this however we can be certain: WTC controlled demolition, Israelis carried out the operation, no Arab hijackers, mastermind Zakheim, motive PNAC & Clean Break and remote control. I do not care about flight77 or 93, those are details to be solved by crime investigators. The most pressing question is that of remote control: how was that done? Were the original flights 11 and 175 remote controlled themselves or was there a plane swap as some have suggested, including Bollyn? Disclaimer: nobody is guilty until convicted by a court of law. This blog’s intent is to stimulate thinking about 9/11 from a different angle than the official one. From day one the blame has been put at bin Laden and his people without real evidence. Today bin Laden is no longer persecuted for 9/11 according to the FBI website. The theory proposed here might be true or false or contain some truth. In the end it must be an official investigation that determines who is guilty and who is not. This blog is dedicated to Italian ex-president Cossiga who is the highest ranking statesman to date who has openly stated that it was the Mossad who has carried out the 9/11 attacks.
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#146. To: GreyLmist, tom007, Cynicom, *No Planers*, *9-11* (#140)
Cynicom: A charade using time, smoke and mirrors to confuse, disarm and destroy any concerted effort looking for the truth. The entire 9/11 charade could itself be called a Directed Energy-Weapon with a "blooming effect" to defocus and disperse our energy (especially the Patriotic sort) into the atmosphere haphazardly but No Planes research is not really a wacky conspiracy theory that aims to misdirect 9/11 Truth and Justice seekers. It's the official guv-issued conspiracy theory that's wacky and intended to mislead. So are a number of the alt-media's more popular narratives, imo. Very much like the "MSM" and G.W. Bush, the alt-media too stricly wants consensus on info that fits their predetermined preferences with near Zero Tolerance for dissension -- not any real investigation other than what's "okayed" by them. Yeah, that. Do you have any bonafide evidence that all of the witnesses are lying and that all of the impact videos are faked? There is ample evidence indicating planes hit the towers. Eyewitnesses and video for starters. Entrance holes in the towers and exterior jet fuel explosions are next on the list. What I can tell by examining the Entrance Hole of the first hit is it is the profile of a plane. The next hit is confusing with some saying another plane some saying no plane, plane image inserted afterward, a missile fired from the second plane. Seems a governmental commission could get to the bottom of this but NO. There is ample evidence indicating planes hit the towers. Eyewitnesses and video for starters. Entrance holes in the towers and exterior jet fuel explosions are next on the list. Is it actually news to you that there is ample evidence online of alleged 9/11- witnesses lying, FL? That's a topic that's been discussed here before with evidence presented, I'm fairly sure, and I think it was also pointed out that none of them were under oath. Many were MSM, guv and Military employees (groups that are generally not viewed so unskeptically by the politically savvy as impeccable sources across-the-board in matters other than 9/11). Many were only ever "seen" or "heard from" in the form of printed words and could very possibly have been complete fabrications (so as to enhance the official storyline or for purposes of insurance fraud, for instance). Do you have any bonafide evidence that they are all actual persons who can be fully trusted and none are invented characters? Tania Head is one fake-witness person that even the MSM has aknowledged was fraudulent. Fake impact video, fake entrance holes in buildings that explode inward, exterior fuel explosions -- stuff of the film FX industry for many, many years that's like elementary to them. How about the WTC Towers and their bizarrely non-stick, teflon-pan-like surfaces?: No molten metal adhering to the building as it supposedly poured from windows. No significant damage to the side of the Tower that was closest to high- velocity projectiles and debris being propelled in its direction profusely from the adjacent one that went down first. Yet, we're told to believe that other buildings farther away in the WTC-complex vicinity were burned and destroyed from such. Why do Planes-believers typically hopscotch over simple observations of anomalies like that for more than decade, as if they can't see it or can just dismiss it out of hand by insistently asserting high-tech, glitch-free, remote control implementation or caveman-directed hijackers? ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Is it news to you that there are limits to what is probable and what isn't? Do you think a significant part of the population of New York city would collectively lie about what they saw on 9/11? Were the fireballs faked too in your mind? How about the people jumping out of the towers, were they fake? And what about the videos? Did every single news crew on the scene collectively lie and fabricate the entire story? They all swooped down with their fake video cameras and were so determined to score a huge hit for Israel, they worked on their scripts for weeks before delivering it live that morning of 9/11/2001, eh? Maybe there never were any towers, they were just fake images in all of the post cards of the NYC skyline, put there just to fool the goyim, right? You know better than that. Give names and and contact information of the "eyewitnesses". Show me one video of an airplane strike that wasn't faked. Give me definitive proof that ANY of those WTC impact videos were faked. Just prove it once, and you're on your way to cracking the case wide open wud. As far as the witnesses, are you unfamiliar with ANY of the news reports of that day where people described what they saw? Did all of the news crews collude to fabricate news reports of an event that did not happen? What it comes down to is that what occured or didn't occur on 9/11 can be proven using scientific FACTS, proveable with known laws of physics and mathematics. Is is a scientific fact that those towers did not collapse as they did without a controlled demolition using explosive devices of some sort. It is scientific fact that a 757 couldn't fly at ground level over 500 mph into a ground target with the nose level, and highly unlikely an inept individual such as Hani Hanjour could have defied the laws of physics and performed the impossible. It is pure conjecture that "no planes" were involved in the WTC attacks, and is not based upon science or math, rather it is based on a premise that is highly unlikely, and is not necessary to prove that 9/11 was inside job. This guy's got your back.... He's a witness. He saw the airplane "come out of nowhere". Yeah. Just ask him. You win. And this proves what? Some guy on Youtube posts a video of an interview that may have been edited, and it may as well be written in the Bible as "The Word"? We don't even see the "interviewee's" mouth moving during the part where he supposedly explains how the towers collapsed before they did. I call bullshit on that one. In fact wud, after the "cut" to one of the impacts, during which time he's supposed to be talking about the collapse, there are words being spoken that are not coming out of his mouth once you DO see his face again. You can't be so eager to jump on every piece of BS out there. It is this sort of thing that turns the vast majority of people against any sort of real hard look into 9/11, as many would think EVERYTHING that "truthers" say is pure whacked out bullshit, judging from the video you posted as "proof" there weren't any planes involved with the attacks. If you wanted to expose what REALLY happened on 9/11/2011, you'd perhaps be looking into THIS sort of information.... PS: These are documented recordings of the NYPD, along with various news reports from that time frame. It's the Harley guy. He's freaking famous. Get with the program. I offer him as evidence for your case. He started the "planes coming out of nowhere" rumour. Thank you for your participation. So he doesn't like Hondas. That makes him an expert on anything? But ok, I just looked up "Harley guy 911" and found the original video, and he said he was watching it from his window, and this interview took place an hour and a half AFTER the two towers had already collapsed. Here it is. It is more effective to post the original rather than an edited version wud. Now perhaps the guy was just repeating what he heard on TV, where "experts" may have already come up with the bright idea that the towers collapsed because of the "intense heat". It still doesn't prove that there were no planes. The towers didn't collapse. They didn't crumble. They didn't come tumbling down. They disintegrated. They blowed up. To smithereens. And... not because of a plane. Who said anything about a plane anyway? Oh yeah, the tv. Your trusted info source. Carry on. The TV didn't say anything. I saw it happen on live TV though, as I had just turned it on a few minutes before the 2nd plane hit. There were MANY people who saw that 2nd plane hit, and at least a few had snapped video and photos of the 1st plane. There were ALL sorts of cameras on the WTC as that 2nd plane hit because of what had already happened with the 1st plane, where it was first thought it was some sort of horrible accident. You have ZERO proof that all of those people are lying, and zero proof that ALL of the news media, their reporters and camera crews, and the police and fire departments who were involved, fabricated these events, reports, and videos. What is more likely, what YOU claim, or the possibility that remote controlled military aircraft were used in the attacks, being that Dov Zakheim, besides having "misplaced" 2.3 TRILLION dollars of US tax payer money while the Comptroller of the Pentagon, had a deal to sell Boing 767 tankers to the Air Force and whose company creates military remote aircraft control technology? And yes, it is the same Dov Zakheim who co-authored the infamous "America needs a new Pearl Harbor" memo. Really wud, besides bizarre and unprovable assertions, do you have any proof? What about motive? Zakheim had a 2.3 trillion dollar motive to do what he did. What motive would all those people YOU blame have? The towers didn't collapse. They didn't crumble. They didn't come tumbling down. They disintegrated. They blowed up. To smithereens. And... not because of a plane. Who said anything about a plane anyway? Oh yeah, the tv. Your trusted info source. Carry on. Ya know, it really dosen't matter if it was a plane, UFO or drone or what ever - the buildings were packed with explosives and NYC and Israel have their fingerprints all over it. Also the Odigo (sp) advance warnings were real - and broadcast in Hebrew to any who could understand that tongue knew to stay away. Planes didn't bring the Towers down or the Pentagon's newly reinforced wing. I think most researchers can agree on that much. The main purpose of plane-props in the storyline is to insert the designated villain-characters into kamikaze-vehicles for a plausible "holy war" scenario-pretext in order to strike the designated targets of Afghanistan and Iraq after Black Tuesday in the 9/11 Wars for Profiteers. Kamikaze/Divine Wind/God Wind. I think most researchers can agree too that WTC 1, 2, and 7 were brought down by controlled demolitions. Whether they were demolished by conventional explosives, by unconventional methods, or a combination of both, they were still controlled demolitions. It does matter if there were no planes for a number of reasons. Making accurate charges against the actual perps is a big one, imo -- so that insurance frauds don't escape detection; so that possible black-marketeers trafficking in dual- use plane-parts which can be used in guided missle systems don't escape detection; etc. The No Planes investigation doesn't diminish or make obsolete the scientific work of others such as FormerLurker's on aerodynamics, Architects & Engineers, et al. It is important for people to know why the official conspiracy theory is bunk. Also: Zim American Israeli Shipping Company ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Nobody here is saying they did. That doesn't mean they didn't use aircraft for effect however. And that doesn't mean every single reporter, camera man, bystander, and news agency fabricated "planes" that weren't there. The planes seem to be a cover for the demolitions. The whole thing is beyond bizarre. God is always good!
It is my opinion, from watching them, that ALL videos of a plane hitting the wtc are fake. You do the logic. Believe what you want. True, but as a matter of fact, there was no plane. Facts can be important. For the sake of argument if nothing else. Without the videos of those planes ( Truth is important. Anyone that says they saw a plane hit the wtc is lying.
killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html
Wud, I don't know why you are barking up this tree but it's not doing you any good. You again fail to prove ANYTHING, and simply proclaim yourself to be the judge of everything related to 9/11, and declare everyone else a liar. WTF is wrong with you? Not to you apparently. The whole thing is beyond bizarre. Yes, it is beyond bizarre. And the WTC demolitions are cover to "excuse" the lack of plane-strike evidence other than what was thought to be seen on approach in film, an alleged passport, a mismatched wheel... The delayed film (like the Naudet Brothers') of alleged Flt. 11 crashing into the first Tower served to augment Silverstein's insurance settlement. Two planes said to have "vanished" at the WTC means that two real planes may have been disappeared into the black market, in whole or in part. Why waste expensive planes to take us to War and devise a Police State when many people tend to believe what they're told without questioning further and tend to believe what they think they've seen for themselves -- even fight strenuously against contradictory evidence, which provides time for criminal escapes and for entrenching War and Police State measures. In the past, countries could be taken to War, draconian laws passed, on just printed new stories as "evidence" or whatever was said by elites. Not so easy to do with mass media now, so productions are staged to control the present and the future. Saw parts of a documentary on TLC called (iirc) "9/11 Emergency Room". A hospital that had practiced for disaster shortly before 9/11 set up triage under the WTC to treat the wounded. Seems to me a bizarre and most unsafe choice of location for that but that is what is being launched into the future as the moving history of that day. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
If truth is important to you, why did you hopscotch over the observations of anomolies at Post #149? Thanks for making my point, though, about plane- believers typically doing that.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
No molten metal adhering to the building as it supposedly poured from windows. No significant damage to the side of the Tower that was closest to high- velocity projectiles and debris being propelled in its direction profusely from the adjacent one that went down first. Yet, we're told to believe that other buildings farther away in the WTC-complex vicinity were burned and destroyed from such. Huh? A) There were fireballs from the impact, as captured on video. Smoke is seen pouring out of the buildings afterwards. B) Molten metal was found under the debris weeks after the event. Why didn't it "stick"? Stick to what, the air it was falling through as seen on the videos of it pouring out of the building in certain areas? C) Huh? There were entrance holes and exit holes. I have no idea what you're talking about concerning your statement, "No significant damage to the side of the Tower that was closest to high- velocity projectiles and debris being propelled in its direction profusely from the adjacent one that went down first. Yet, we're told to believe that other buildings farther away in the WTC-complex vicinity were burned and destroyed from such." What are you trying to say exactly, that there was no damage to the towers? Why do you and wud insist on this unlikely and highly improbable belief that all of NY city witnessing the events lied about the 9/11 attacks, along with every single news reporter, camera crew, and fireman and policeman at the scene? The "no-planes" concept is akin to "space aliens from Venus" zapped the towers because they are in cahoots with the Jews. They are both wild stories that detract from the actual evidence available, and turn the average person away from any further thought of "what if the government didn't tell the truth" about 9/11. Yet you act as if people who question your "observations" are actually trying to do what you are in fact doing, and that is leading people AWAY from the truth, not towards it. Well excuse me I didn't see your post till you brought it to my attention. See my response above. Now if you have any PROOF, and I mean video analysis proving CGI was used to create the planes impacting the WTC, and eye witnesses who said they simply saw an explosion but NO plane flew into the WTC, it just exploded and left holes without anything hitting it, then go ahead and post that proof. Thus far you have posted ZERO evidence, just your beliefs. Also, you need to give me some sort of motive why EVERY news reporter and camera crew knowingly fabricated evidence and claimed to have witnessed what they saw when they in fact saw nothing, and produced live reports and video that was actually taped and edited earlier at a studio. I'm sure more than a few people would have said nothing at all hit the towers if that were in fact the case. There are a LOT of people who live and work in NY City, and once the 1st plane hit, there were LOTS of eyes, AND cameras, focused on those towers. Your belief requires that ALL witnesses are lying, and that ALL news crews are ALSO lying. Perhaps you should reevaluate your world view, since not EVERYONE is a liar. A hospital that had practiced for disaster shortly before 9/11 set up triage under the WTC to treat the wounded. Seems to me a bizarre and most unsafe choice of location for that but that is what is being launched into the future as the moving history of that day. I doubt many people considered the possibility that the towers might collapse. They SHOULDN'T have collapsed due to the impacts, and they didn't collapse as if they were damaged only at the top floors. They collapsed as if there was nothing holding them up to begin with, and the only way to accomplish that is with explosives throughout the buildings. Forget your idea that planes hit the wtc. Calm down and watch the videos here. killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html They're all fake. Come to terms with it and be cool. Explain to me ONE actual piece of evidence that proves no planes hit the towers. I'll be waiting...
Yes truth is important, they were seen according to eye witnesses and they were filmed. I know why you believe that there were no planes. Because the TV footage of the close up of the planes from different angles was edited to obscure the identity of the plane. The video evidence does not mean there were no planes, it just means that the videos were edited.
God is always good!
True, but as a matter of fact, there was no plane. Facts can be important. For the sake of argument if nothing else. I certainly believe facts to be important. A lot of fishy things went on before 9-11 that really do implicate the Likud Israel political faction and their operatives in the Bush administration. Do you think a significant part of the population of New York city would collectively lie about what they saw on 9/11? Yep, simple logic says if there were no planes then there would have been many, not just a few, but many people proclaiming that they saw and heard no planes. Where are these people? No planers are not thinking about the illogical points in their positions. Nuts. Even if somehow the government and media managed to pretend there were planes and keep people quite about it, I see no benefit to it to accomplish their plans. It would be much easier to just crash the planes into the buildings. God is always good!
that is what is being launched into the future as the moving history of that day from Britain: 9-11 documentary focuses on 'surfer' - Worcester Telegram & Gazette - telegram.com By Mike Hale THE NEW YORK TIMES Monday, September 10, 2012 Why in Britain? Because these TV documentaries about the most significant event in our recent history were made there. You could see this outsourcing as a dereliction of duty by American filmmakers, or as a welcome sign that we’re moving on. (It’s definitely an indicator of the astonishingly high percentage of American nonfiction television that’s made in Britain, and other European countries.) In any case, our history is in competent hands. [sic] Two of the more worthwhile of programs are the work of Testimony Films: “The 9- 11 Surfer,” debuting Tuesday on Discovery and “9-11 Emergency Room,” airing tonight on TLC. “Emergency Room” counters the popular conception of medical care on Sept. 11 — doctors waiting at St. Vincent’s Hospital in Greenwich Village for patients who never arrived — with the story of New York Downtown Hospital, which was overrun with victims from inside and outside the towers. [sic] “The 9-11 Surfer” looks for the truth behind a particular Sept. 11 legend, the story that a man on the 86th floor of the north tower when it collapsed had survived by “surfing” down with the debris. The film replays the TV news accounts that propagated the tale, then circles back to its origins in the sufficiently amazing, not widely known story of a Port Authority employee named Pasquale Buzzelli. Found by two firefighters sitting atop a seven-story pile of burning rubble, Buzzelli recalled being on the 22nd floor when the building came down. Experts disagree on the probabilities, but the soft-spoken Buzzelli is persuasive, and the videos of his late-night homecoming on Sept. 11, and his reunions in later years with the firefighters who rescued him, are irresistible. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Exactly. It's one thing to suggest the videos MAY have been manipulated, but to state unequivocally that "no plane" hit the towers, with no real evidence of such a claim, is beyond reason. It ignores the fact that EVERY camera crew had to have known that what they were capturing on video was not what was being broadcast, and the reporters had to know they were fabricating a story out of thin air so to speak. There would have been a large number of people in the vicinity of the towers, looking up, who would have stated that they didn't see a plane but only an explosion in the 2nd tower. In reality, more than a few people witnessed the plane as it approached the tower, and a good number actually saw it impact. I am not aware of ANY actual witness who claims they saw the entrance hole appear for no reason, ie. nothing hit the tower. I HAVE read that survivors in the WTC actually saw the 2nd plane approach. Again, for the "no-plane" story to have any basis in fact, ALL of the news media on the scene would had to have been in on the scheme and executed their deception flawlessly, before, during, and after the event. It is MUCH easier to take control of an aircraft remotely and fly it into a tower, than to pull off such a large scale act of deception, where the world believes jet airliners hit the towers, yet in reality they were created in a studio and broadcast to the world in unison at the exact proper time, in league with every news crew and witness in the City of New York.
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#147. To: wudidiz, *9-11* (#127)
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Well said, but what evidence do you have that planes hit the wtc?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#148. To: FormerLurker (#147)
Entrance holes in the towers
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#149. To: FormerLurker, *9-11* (#147)
Do you have any bonafide evidence that all of the witnesses are lying and that all of the impact videos are faked?
Little to no smoke damage seen where much would be expected.
#150. To: GreyLmist (#149)
Is it actually news to you that there is ample evidence online of alleged 9/11- witnesses lying, FL?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#151. To: GreyLmist (#149)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#152. To: FormerLurker, GreyLmist (#151)
Maybe there never were any towers, they were just fake images in all of the post cards of the NYC skyline,
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#153. To: wudidiz (#152)
Show me one video of an airplane strike that wasn't faked.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#154. To: wudidiz, GreyLmist, *9-11* (#152)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#155. To: FormerLurker (#153)
news reports of that day where people described what they saw
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#156. To: wudidiz (#155)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#157. To: wudidiz (#155)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#158. To: wudidiz, *9-11* (#155)
(Edited)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#159. To: FormerLurker (#156)
I call bullshit on that one.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#160. To: wudidiz (#159)
(Edited)
It's the Harley guy. He's freaking famous. Get with the program. I offer him as evidence for your case. He started the "planes coming out of nowhere" rumour. Thank you for your participation.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#161. To: FormerLurker (#160)
the towers collapsed
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#162. To: wudidiz (#161)
Who said anything about a plane anyway?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#163. To: wudidiz (#161)
the towers collapsed
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#164. To: tom007, FormerLurker, wudidiz, *9-11* (#163)
Ya know, it really dosen't matter if it was a plane, UFO or drone or what ever - the buildings were packed with explosives and NYC and Israel have their fingerprints all over it.
Also the Odigo (sp) advance warnings were real - and broadcast in Hebrew to any who could understand that tongue knew to stay away.
Israeli Company Moves Out of WTC
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The Zim-American Israeli Shipping Co. moves their North American headquarters from the 16th floor of the WTC to Norfolk, Virginia, one week before the 9/11 attacks. The Israeli government owns 49 percent of the company. [Virginian- Pilot, 9/4/2001] Zim announced the move and its date six months earlier. [Virginian-Pilot, 4/3/2001] More than 200 workers had just been moved out; about ten are still in the building making final moving arrangements on 9/11, but escape. [Jerusalem Post, 9/13/2001; Journal of Commerce, 10/18/2001] The move leaves only one Israeli company, ClearForest, with 18 employees, in the WTC on 9/11. The four or five employees in the building at the time manage to escape. [Jerusalem Post, 9/13/2001] One year later, a Zim ship is impounded while attempting to ship Israeli military equipment to Iran; it is speculated that this is done with the knowledge of Israel. [Agence France-Presse, 3/29/2002]
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#165. To: GreyLmist (#164)
Planes didn't bring the Towers down or the Pentagon's newly reinforced wing.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#166. To: GreyLmist (#164)
It does matter if there were no planes for a number of reasons. M
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#167. To: FormerLurker (#165)
(Edited)
Planes didn't bring the Towers down or the Pentagon's newly reinforced wing.
It was absolutely for effect, and it was also going to be used as the excuse for why the buildings came down.
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Nobody here is saying they did. That doesn't mean they didn't use aircraft for effect however. And that doesn't mean every single reporter, camera man, bystander, and news agency fabricated "planes" that weren't there.
Without those planes being seen and filmed crashing into the buildings the false flag event of 9/11 would have not worked so well. It would have been too hard to convince even the sheeple that security was so lax at the towers that Muslims somehow got in there and planted all the explosives necessary to bring them down. Also without the planes hitting the buildings they would not have been able to control who can fly and who can't fly in this nation as easily. The TSA wouldn't have existed today if they didn't have those planes crash into the buildings.
#168. To: FormerLurker (#162)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#169. To: tom007 (#163)
it really dosen't matter if it was a plane, UFO or drone or what ever
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#170. To: RickyJ, *No Planers* (#167)
Without those planes being seen and filmed crashing into the buildings the false flag event of 9/11 would have not worked so well.
being seen and filmed) crashing into the buildings the false flag event of 9/11 would have not worked so well.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#171. To: All (#170)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#172. To: All, *No Planers*, *9-11* (#171)
(Edited)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#173. To: wudidiz (#168)
It is my opinion, from watching them, that ALL videos of a plane hitting the wtc are fake.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#174. To: wudidiz (#170)
Truth is important.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#175. To: tom007, *9-11* (#166)
The planes seem to be a cover for the demolitions.
#176. To: FormerLurker (#174)
#177. To: GreyLmist, wudidiz (#149)
Little to no smoke damage seen where much would be expected.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#178. To: GreyLmist (#176)
(Edited)
If truth is important to you, why did you hopscotch over the observations of anomolies at Post #149? Thanks for making my point, though, about plane- believers typically doing that.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#179. To: GreyLmist, tom007, , *9-11* (#175)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#180. To: FormerLurker (#173)
WTF is wrong with you?
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#181. To: wudidiz (#180)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#182. To: wudidiz (#170)
#183. To: wudidiz (#169)
(Edited)
t really dosen't matter if it was a plane, UFO or drone or what ever
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#184. To: FormerLurker (#150)
(Edited)
Is it news to you that there are limits to what is probable and what isn't?
#185. To: All (#175)
Saw parts of a documentary on TLC called (iirc) "9/11 Emergency Room". A hospital that had practiced for disaster shortly before 9/11 set up triage under the WTC to treat the wounded. Seems to me a bizarre and most unsafe choice of location for that but that is what is being launched into the future as the moving history of that day.
A close but not exhaustive survey of prime-time schedules turned up several new specials on the attacks, all on cable. New to the United States, that is — some are leftover inventory, having been shown in Britain last year.
#186. To: RickyJ, *9-11* (#184)
(Edited)
Yep, simple logic says if there were no planes then there would have been many, not just a few, but many people proclaiming that they saw and heard no planes. Where are these people? No planers are not thinking about the illogical points in their positions.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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