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Title: How 9/11 Was Done
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URL Source: http://physics911.net/how-911-was-done/
Published: Sep 3, 2012
Author: http://physics911.net/how-911-was-done/
Post Date: 2012-09-03 14:09:24 by tom007
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Views: 13489
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How 9/11 Was Done

For additional notes see the accompanying blog 911notes.blogspot.com. Prologue

Read the following two screens of text to learn what happened at 9/11.

9/11 was a master plot, concocted by a handfull of Israelis and dual passport Americans and carried out by the resources of the Mossad.

Larry Silverstein leases a nearly worthless dinosaur WTC building complex (worthless due to the asbestos the buildings were stuffed with and needed to be cleaned up, the cost of which may have rivaled the value of the buildings themselves) weeks before 9/11, makes sure it is over insured against terrorist acts and hires an Israeli security firm. From that moment on the coast is clear to let a team of demolition experts from the Israeli army led by Peer Segalovitz into the WTC buildings. These charges plus detonators had been prepared at the premises of the Urban Moving Systems company, a Mossad front. During the weeks before 9/11 these prepared charges were loaded into vans, driven into the basements of WTC Twin Towers next to the elevator shaft, unloaded into the elevator, and lifted onto the roof of the elevator through the opening in the elevator ceiling. Next the elevator moved from floor to floor while charges where being attached to the columns as displayed in this video from 0:22 onwards. The detonators of these charges were radiographic controlled and finally detonated from WTC7 on the day of 9/11.

Fast backward, Hamburg 54 Marienstrasse, july 2000, 22:40. Mohamed Atta, Al Shehhi and Jarrah (who were later blamed of being the pilots of flight 11, 175 and 93 respectively), who share the apartment hear the ringing of the door bell. Jarrah opens the door, 5 masked men make their way into the apartment with drawn pistols. The 3 Arabs are forced to lay on the ground. Their passports are confiscated, next the 3 men are made unconscious with some liquid and strangled to death afterwards. The bodies are carried out of the apartment into a van and driven off towards a desolate spot at the boarding of the Elbe river outside Hamburg, 1 kilometer north of Borstel and disposed of into the river with a bag filled with stones tied to their feet. The 3 passports are now in the possession of the agents of the Mossad, who carried out the raid on the apartment and 3 Arabs have vanished without anybody knowing that they are dead. Not long after the raid the 3 passports are given to 3 Israeli agents who were selected on having some resemblance with the 3 Arabs just killed. They make for America soon afterwards in the summer of 2000 and start laying a trail at flight schools, posing with the stolen identities from the 3 Arabs killed.

Years earlier the israeli Michael Goff working for PTech, an Arab owned software company that develops key enterprise software for many government institutions like NORAD and FAA, using his secure channel with another israeli Amit Yoran, somehow manages to give Israeli army computer programmers access to this critical computer code. It was due to this manipulation that the hijackings on 9/11 remained unnoticed by the flight controller of NORAD. Once this was in place the planes could be taken over by remote control and flown into the World Trade Center.

The hijacking of airliners by remote control had been tested as a dress rehearsal for 9/11 on the Egypt Air flight 990 that crashed into the Atlantic on October 31, 1999.

Now everything was in place to commit the crime of the century. On the day of 9/11 the Israeli stand-ins for the ‘Arab hijackers’ showed up at the predestined departure airports to make sure they were captured on surveillance camera’s. The crucial point here is that the security at both the departure airports was in hands of an Israeli firm Huntleigh-USA, a subsidiary of the Dutch based but Israeli owned ICTS led by a fellow named Menahem Atzmon. And this is crucial: Atzmon used to be a colleague of Olmert in 1998. So there you have the link between the 9/11 operative level (an airport security firm) and the highest level of Israeli politics. What happened on the morning of 9/11 was that after the Israeli stand-ins were captured on camera, they left the airport via a side entrance and the show could begin. Minutes after the planes became air born somebody somehow was able to send a signal to the planes, causing the control panels to be disabled and the flight destination altered. What happened was that an anti-hijack system was activated (code word ‘home run’) and the regular pilot was put out of control. This pilot will probably have tried frantically to regain control of his aircraft. It is not very likely he will have told his passengers about the new situation since that would only cause panic. The passengers probably suspected nothing and hence had no reason to make any phone calls to their relatives (which were not possible anyway). And while the 9/11 passengers unsuspecting travel towards their immanent deaths, on the ground from a war room Israeli agents carry out phone calls to relatives of the passengers that were still in the air, using voice morphing technology and caller-ID spoofing and thus planted the Arabs-did-it-deception in the public consciousness. The sound samples necessary to carry out the fake telephone calls had been obtained via the israeli infiltration of American telephone networks by Israeli firms like Amdocs and Verint. By the time that the passengers were puzzled as they discerned the New York sky line it was already too late.

Meanwhile on the other side of the Hudson river the members of the Israeli team that planted the demolition charges were waiting for things to happen. And while the rest of New York experienced in horror the events that were unfolding that day, the demolition experts were celebrating and high-fiving. The plot had worked out magnificently.

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Core Argument

Ok, I admit. Some elements in this story are speculative. I do not know for instance if Atta was killed in Germany or in America. But the story is an coherent educated speculation. It is an attempt to reconstruct the events of 9/11. Myriads of web sites exist that expose the inconsistencies in the official story, that obviously is a fraud. This story offers an integral explanation of what could have happened and in all likelihood more or less did happen at 9/11 as there can be hardly any doubt about who was behind 9/11 if one rejects the official story. Some elements remain vague, like what happened exactly to WTC7, flight77, flight93 or Mohamed Atta. But these questions are of academic interest only. It’s clear who was behind 9/11 and what happened in detail with WTC-1/2 and the planes. That is enough. Here’s where most people got killed. The rest of the plot can be uncovered by a tribunal.

In order to prevent that you get swallowed up by yet another 10 meters of screen text here is the core of the argument. The story is based on 2 broadly accepted postulates:

1) WTC was brought down by controlled demolition 2) The ‘dancing Israelis’ on the morning of 9/11 had foreknowledge of things to come

These 2 premises are enough to put the Official Conspiracy Theory (Arabs did it) out of business.

Premise 2 leads to the preliminary conclusion that the Israelis had foreknowledge because they organized the attacks themselves. Since Israelis are not known to commit suicide attacks we have to assume that the airplanes that crashed into their destinations were remote controlled. If one accepts this as a working hypothesis than there is a lot, I mean really a lot, of material that supports this Israeli Conspiracy Theory that replaces the official Arab Conspiracy Theory. We have the dedicated Zionist Silverstein who leases the WTC complex and over insures it against terrorism (leading to a hansom profit); we know that security at all departure airports and ‘arrival airports’ (WTC) was in Israeli hands (Huntleigh-USA and Kroll Associates, resp.); we know that the owner of Huntleigh-USA, Menachem Atzmon, a convicted criminal, had strong ties to Ehud Olmert, that is the highest level of Israeli politics; we also know that the Israeli secret service can eavesdrop on virtually everybody in the USA via Israeli owned companies like Amdocs and Verint which gave the Mossad the possibility to obtain sound samples of future 9/11 passengers to apply voice morphing to in order to make the fake phone calls on 9/11. And of course there is Dov Zakheim, the real mastermind of 9/11 who was CEO of SPC for 4 years prior to 9/11, a company that produces systems for remote control of airplanes. The same Zakheim that was a member of the Zionist dominated PNAC group, that more or less plotted for a global American empire, and suggested that a ‘New Pearl Harbor‘ (page 51) could speed things up a bit; and finally the same Zakheim that 6 months before 9/11 became supervisor of a group of Pentagon comptrollers that had to sort out what had happened to the 2.3 trillion dollars that were missing from the Pentagon books; many of these comptrollers conveniently got killed on 9/11 and much of the financial data went with them. This is the core of the story.

Note: I am not claiming that 9/11 is solved. Of this however we can be certain: WTC controlled demolition, Israelis carried out the operation, no Arab hijackers, mastermind Zakheim, motive PNAC & Clean Break and remote control. I do not care about flight77 or 93, those are details to be solved by crime investigators. The most pressing question is that of remote control: how was that done? Were the original flights 11 and 175 remote controlled themselves or was there a plane swap as some have suggested, including Bollyn?

Disclaimer: nobody is guilty until convicted by a court of law. This blog’s intent is to stimulate thinking about 9/11 from a different angle than the official one. From day one the blame has been put at bin Laden and his people without real evidence. Today bin Laden is no longer persecuted for 9/11 according to the FBI website. The theory proposed here might be true or false or contain some truth. In the end it must be an official investigation that determines who is guilty and who is not. This blog is dedicated to Italian ex-president Cossiga who is the highest ranking statesman to date who has openly stated that it was the Mossad who has carried out the 9/11 attacks.

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#373. To: RickyJ, FormerLurker, titorite, *9-11* (#366) (Edited)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkzfKRe0gbc

FL: That video was obviously manipulated and edited, by people such as you or your friends. The original, live video does not show such manipulation. YOU are the one posting fraudulent video there slick.

RickyJ: I am not surprised. It is obviously a way to try make 9/11 truthers look crazy to say there was no planes when there is no real evidence that is the case.

That video (below) was posted and discussed quite a while ago in this forum -- I think before titorite was here. It is (as I recall) a manipulation, yes -- by the media -- for a later documentary pushing war against Iraq. The 9/11 imagery was darkened to look more terrifying for Islamophobic purposes. Am not surprised if Ricky and FL don't remember it or didn't see it because the more important issues to planers seems to be: 1. There was no such thing as any Media-Mockingbirds or Media-hoaxing on 9/11. 2. Remote control existed, glitch- free, and Zakheim would profit if it was used so it was. 3. John Lear's info is meaningless if planers don't like him. 4. Anyone who disagrees with planer dictats is __________ (fill in the ad hominem: nuts, extremely confused, a disinfo agent, etc., etc.)

9/11 TV Fakery: Smoke & Mirrors (short version)

titorite, to post videos here, click the Share button under the YouTube, then the Embed button. Copy the code and paste it into the comment-box here.

Edited for spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-14   12:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#374. To: FormerLurker (#371)

I appreciate your effort to try and help on that and will look at it again when I can get back to it. Have other things right now that I need to be doing. Have a nice day all.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-14   12:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#375. To: GreyLmist (#373)

There are pictures of the plane that hit the south tower, not just videos. Do you think the pictures are fake too?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-14   12:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#376. To: All (#375)

You should know, that it is much harder to alter a picture than a video without it being detected as being altered.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-14   12:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#377. To: GreyLmist, RickyJ, titorite, *9-11* (#373)

Find the original unaltered video. The person who edited the version you posted is more than likely the one who doctored it to make it look doctored. Pretty ironic that people who would fall for that are the same ones who claim the REAL videos were somehow "faked".

As far as planes hitting the towers, it's pretty much a 100% certainly that some sort of plane hit the towers, using a combination of remote control and computer assisted GPS based guidence similar to a cruise missile, who knows what exactly.

But simply because you don't feel the US is able to launch missiles and hit their targets accurately doesn't mean they can't, it just means you really don't view things logically.

As far as Lear, sure he's a nut, but as far as the speed of the aircraft they more than likely weren't going as fast as reported, AND they more than likely were reinforced versions which could withstand higher loads.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-14   14:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#378. To: GreyLmist, titorite (#373) (Edited)

One more thing GL. There would be ZERO need to "fake" the smoke plume since I think we can all agree there at least was some sort of explosion in the North tower which could at least mimic an impact from an aircraft strike, prior to the strike to the South tower.

So it's REALLY dumb to think doctored smoke plumes reveal the "truth", since there would have been no need to fake the smoke plumes one bit, if your little tale of make believe planes were really plausible, which it isn't.

Again, you neglect the fact that millions of people witnessed the smoke, and at least hundreds of thousands saw the fireball from the South tower strike. I'd say at least tens of thousands actually saw the plane hit the South tower from an angle which included the approach of the plane.

Were they all in cahoots with the news media too, along with the air traffic controllers and cameramen at the scene? Or was it just titorite who was claiming the hijacked planes never even took off that morning, and that the air traffic controllers were in on it?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-14   14:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#379. To: RickyJ (#375)

Some people just believe what they wish to believe, and once that belief becomes part of their world view, NOTHING will change it, facts, witnesses, evidence, logic, and reason be damned.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-14   14:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#380. To: FormerLurker (#361)

You see tit, the problem with you is that you depend on other people's doctored videos to justify your beliefs. I can view the original videos and see not only what happened, but prove that you ARE full of shit.

No I am not full of shit... I am able to accept the truth.... I do not need to tell people "please inform me" I am already informed.... I am not waiting to rebel... I am a rebel. I am not waiting for the shit to hit the fan... it has already hit the fan. I am not bidding my time waiting for the SS to knock on my door... I am trying to help others see through the viel of propaganda that is so thick and powerful that some of the brainwashed sheep will violently fight to maintain their manipulated mindset.

You former lurker can not even civilly discuss this without sarcasm or snark or vileness.

And you refuse to ask youself why that is....

The videos are not doctored...

Their are multiple flight paths.

The evidence is in your face once it is pointed out.

After that it is on the individual to accept the truth or lie to themselves as you continue to do lurker.... It is sad.

All this time you spent debating an old event that nobody will do anything about... you could of been researching the NLP of 911 .... something to few do... so many say "Oh I know what happened" or "I know why that didn't happen" But few ever discuss the NLP propaganda of 911 and the lasting after effects.

You could learn all about the latest advances in propaganda instead following the latest advances in propaganda.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-14   15:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#381. To: titorite (#380)

The videos are not doctored...

Uh huh. NOWHERE else have I seen step copied graduations of the smoke plume from the video you posted. The person even put in yellow borders to demonstrate where the video was doctored. Thing is, he more than likely is the person who did the doctoring.

Do you even watch the videos that you post? In fact, YOU are claiming that ALL WTC 911 videos are somehow doctored aren't you?

Out of curiousity, do you claim that there were no smoke plumes from the towers that day, and that they were simply added in real time to the live video? Or was there even ANY live video that day?

What about the millions upon millions of people who looked out their windows, be it at work or from home, and saw with their own eyes what they were seeing on television?

The thing is, you apparently have not seriously considered these things, and pretend they are irrelevant. They are HIGHLY relevant, and are what make your story fall apart like a deck of cards.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-14   16:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#382. To: titorite, GreyLmist, wudidiz, *9-11* (#380)

Congratulations to the three of you. After 11 days and 381 posts, you've managed to sidetrack the topic of this thread, which is Israeli involvement in the 9/11 attacks and the arrest of Mossad agents that day found with tons of explosives near the George Washington Bridge, as well as how the buildings were wired with explosives and detonated.

You've turned it into a ridiculous array of wild unprovable allegations concerning a massive conspiracy involving the television networks, camera crews, on-scene reporters, firemen, police, WTC survivors, bystanders, airlines, airports, air traffic controllers, and the FAA, where they all decided to fake plane crashes into the WTC and produce videos of fake planes, fake smoke, and fake fireballs.

Do you guys get paid for this favor you did Israel?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-14   16:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#383. To: FormerLurker (#382)

Do you guys get paid for this favor you did Israel?

Short, to the point, honest and accurate.

The government loves muddied waters.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-14   16:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#384. To: FormerLurker, Cynicom, titorite, GreyLmist, wudidiz, *9-11* (#382)

It was not all bad. We've seen that there were anomalies in the configuration and behavior of the aircraft involved that cast doubt on the gov't fairy tale. We've also reviewed facts that showed that our national defenses were curiously down and out that day.

If you have new stuff on the arrest of Mossad agentsl the explosives found near the George Washington Bridge, and how the buildings were wired, please bring us any new research, FL. I've been too busy to fool with it or I would have posted something on these topics.

When shit gets bogged down, there is nothing wrong with changing direction. That beats cussing out whoever is getting under your skins at the moment.

And yes. There are a lot of footprints here leading back to Israel.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-09-14   17:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#385. To: Cynicom, randge (#383)

The government loves muddied waters.

Without all the mud, and if the waters were clear, there'd be no way they could ignore the facts.

It only serves the interest of those behind the attacks to divert attention away from undeniable verifiable facts, and to toss out unprovable claims and farfetched theories.

Mossad agents were involved, thus Israel was involved, and that is what is usually totally ignored. It will continue to be ignored till there is a load enough collective voice screaming it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-14   17:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#386. To: FormerLurker (#385) (Edited)

I think you are right here. At the time suspects were at hand, and if they had been brought to the bar publicly, facts would have come to light that would have brought an entirely different complexion to the interpretation of the events.

And we wouldn't have spanked the wrong party.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-09-14   18:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#387. To: Cynicom (#383)

FormerLurker

Do you guys get paid for this favor you did Israel?

Short, to the point, honest and accurate.

The government loves muddied waters.

Disinformation is cheap, easy and effective.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-14   20:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#388. To: FormerLurker (#385)

Mossad agents were involved, thus Israel was involved, and that is what is usually totally ignored. It will continue to be ignored till there is a load enough collective voice screaming it.

I think that is precisely why Alex Jones is doing what he is doing today. He is there to point the finger of blame away from Israel. Mixing the truth with disinfo is meant to lead people astray, divide the truth movement and help people dismiss the real truth of 9/11 because of all the false data thrown in to make truthers look like nuts.

Even Jim Hoffman, who has an excellent site, and for the most part presents very logical arguments for 9/11 truth still himself throws in enough of the official story to lead people astray. All of this must be meant to protect the real perpetrators of 9/11 incase enough people wake up so they will not be blamed because their "leaders" in the truth movement have deceived them about the whole truth and who is more than likely responsible for 9/11.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-15   1:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#389. To: Cynicom, FormerLurker (#383)

FL... Do you guys get paid for this favor you did Israel?

Cyni... Short, to the point, honest and accurate.

The government loves muddied waters.

Please. Get real.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-09-15   2:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#390. To: randge (#303)

Personally, I leave this aspect of the topic alone when discussing it with regular folks, because it causes them to back away slowly checking as they go to see if there are any blunt weapons within my reach.

I hear you.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-09-15   2:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#391. To: wudidiz (#389)

Please. Get real.

I tried.

I said I thot they were flying telephone poles.

No one knew what I was talking about, they thot I was fibbing...again.

Admit it wud, even you thot I was making it up.

Good heavens.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-15   2:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#392. To: FormerLurker, RickyJ, wudidiz, titorite, *9-11* (#382) (Edited)

Congratulations to the three of you. After 11 days and 381 posts, you've managed to sidetrack the topic of this thread, which is Israeli involvement in the 9/11 attacks and the arrest of Mossad agents that day found with tons of explosives near the George Washington Bridge, as well as how the buildings were wired with explosives and detonated.

You've turned it into a ridiculous array of wild unprovable allegations concerning a massive conspiracy involving the television networks, camera crews, on-scene reporters, firemen, police, WTC survivors, bystanders, airlines, airports, air traffic controllers, and the FAA, where they all decided to fake plane crashes into the WTC and produce videos of fake planes, fake smoke, and fake fireballs.

Do you guys get paid for this favor you did Israel?

Out of nearly 400 posts in this thread, the vast majority of them -- well over 300 -- are not by me, wudidiz, or titorite; but most of those by us were in answer to your barrage of demands, misconstruances, and derision.

The opening post contains the word "Mossad" a total of 5 times and, with all the posters in this thread, it is only mentioned a total of 5 more times -- all by you and only you, FL, and not until over the 20th post. The George Washington Bridge was never mentioned by anyone except you until now and I am the only other person to have used the word bridge in a posting.

The words Israel/Israeli/Israelis appear in responses on this thread less than 30 times after the opening post and 8 of those 30 times (approx. 25% to 30%+) are in a post by me on Zim Shipping linking that company directly to the Israeli government as a major shareholder -- which you cared not at all to discuss as evidence, nor did any other planers. I mentioned extensive research on Art Students in-residence at the WTC leading up to 9/11. Again, neither you nor any planers cared at all to discuss that evidence with regard to explosives and the spy network of Israeli Art Students concerning 9/11. A bigger priority for you, apparently (besides targeting no-planers), was insisting that the ABC "Butter Plane" was like "Kosher" Physics. Ergo, I should be the one asking you how much you got paid for the sidetracking distraction-favors you did for Israel.

In summary, FL, your wild accusations are ridiculous and you have no remote control evidence -- just speculations and hostile allegations against dissenters as if they're heretics and worse. Newsflash: Remote Control Totalitarianism is not The 9/11 Truth Movement -- just a repressive faction of it. You not only proved my point about plane believers hopscotching over anomalies, FL, you also proved my point that the entire 9/11 charade could itself be called a blooming Directed Energy-Weapon to defocus and haphazardly disperse our energy (especially the Patriotic sort) into the atmosphere but I'm not going to thank you for doing so.

Edited for grammar, % estimate, and 3rd paragraph.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-15   8:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#393. To: GreyLmist (#392) (Edited)

When the military plane flew into the South Tower there was a quite noticeable flash. Some have speculated that this was static electricity, others have said that it was just a reflection. I don't think it was either. It was in a direct line from the pod underneath the plane. The answer to how the planes were able to penetrate the outer steel beams of 1/4 inch thickness is that a path was opened up for the plane with a some sort of explosive device, possibly a missile just before it entered the building.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-15   8:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#394. To: All (#393) (Edited)

The Mossad agents that were arrested from the "moving company" were freed and then went straight to Israel. Once there they went on a television show and said that they were there to "document the event." Why the heck did we release them when they knew about 9/11 in advance and were happy it occurred according to eye witnesses? For all we know they could have been the very people who helped place the explosives in the towers, and if they weren't they probably knew the people who did it.

It is time we alert all Americans that Israel has taken over this nation and it is high time that we take it back!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-15   9:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#395. To: GreyLmist (#392) (Edited)

you have no remote control evidence

I guess you didn't see the picture of the rappers that showed him holding a remote control with explosions in the towers behind him just after the planes hit them.

This cover art picture was not made on 9/11/2001. It was made in May of 2001.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-15   9:13:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#396. To: All (#395)

The elite like to let their victims know ahead of time that of their impending doom, it is some sort of sick game they play with the peons they consider us as. Here is more evidence that 9/11 was planned by them and that remote control aircraft were used to hit the towers on 9/11.

911research.wtc7.net/wtc/info/popularculture.html

The Lone Gunman's 'PILOT' Episode

On March 4, 2001, FOX TV aired an episode of The Lone Gunmen show named PILOT, in which a secret US government agency attempts to crash a Boeing 727 into one of the Twin Towers via remote control, and blame the attack on foreign powers. The episode aired in Australia on August 30, 2001.

At the episode's climax, the jetliner's pilots realize that the plane has been commandeered as they approach the Twin Towers from the north, and manage to avert the crash at the last second by overriding a lock that is preventing them from regaining control of the aircraft from the autopilot.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-15   9:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#397. To: FormerLurker (#379)

Some people just believe what they wish to believe, and once that belief becomes part of their world view, NOTHING will change it, facts, witnesses, evidence, logic, and reason be damned.

We have Alan Sabrosky, a Jew by birth saying that Israel did 9/11. Some may say so what? Well he is not just a Jew by birth is a former director of strategic studies at the Army War college. This guy knows warfare, he knows disinformation tactics, and further more, he claims he presented his findings to Generals and they were shocked and were outraged to come to the realization that Israel did 9/11.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-15   9:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#398. To: All (#397)

The military knows that Israel did 9/11 now. What will they do about it?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-15   9:38:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#399. To: RickyJ (#394) (Edited)

The Mossad agents that were arrested from the "moving company" were freed and then went straight to Israel. Once there they went on a television show and said that they were there to "document the event." Why the heck did we release them when they knew about 9/11 in advance and were happy it occurred according to eye witnesses? For all we know they could have been the very people who helped place the explosives in the towers, and if they weren't they probably knew the people who did it.

It is time we alert all Americans that Israel has taken over this nation and it is high time that we take it back!

Yes - Let us know who signed off on these eyewitnesses to this huge crime to be released to Israel.

Who authorized this?

Dov Zakhiem??

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tom007  posted on  2012-09-15   10:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#400. To: GreyLmist, titorite, wudidiz, RickyJ, Cynicom, tom007, randge, All, *9-11* (#392)

If you bothered reading this thread at all, you'd have seen the copious amount of evidence I provided to Cyni regarding remote controlled aircraft. You would have also seen the ample evidence I provided that Israel was involved, including FBI reports on the Israeli citizens they arrested in connection to 9/11 and the fact they were found with tons of explosives.

Post 20 provides video evidence that remote control of airliners is quite possible and had already been achieved 14 years prior to 9/11, post 50 links to a large collection of FBI documents pertaining to Israeli involvement with 9/11, and post 158 which describes the truck bomb on King Street NYC and the arrest of Mossad agents, which is never reported by the press, along with the news reports of individuals arrested with tons of explosives near the George Washington Bridge, all of whom were Mossad agents.

And of course, I've posted many posts concerning the inability of a human pilot to acheive the flight trajectory of Flight 77 into the Pentagon in a 757, and how a flight school washout would have had zero chance to perform the impossible.

You and your pals have been hammering away on the improbable, illogical, and highly unlikely scenario where EVERYTHING was faked, the planes, the smoke, the fireballs, EVERYTHING. Such a scenario would HAVE to include the participation of ALL news networks, camera crews, witnesses, involved airlines and airports, FAA, and the entire population of NYC and surrounding areas, since at least a few of you are saying even the SMOKE PLUMES were faked.

Every functioning human being in that area would have been able to look outside and see the smoke plumes, and witness with their own eyes what they were seeing on live television.

So yes GL, you have been hammering away on a ridiculous fantasy that has NO basis in fact, logic, or reality. The vast majority of posts since you, wud, and titorite have been spraying this thread with that nonsense have involved factual rebuttals to your claims.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   10:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#401. To: tom007, RickyJ (#399)

Yes - Let us know who signed off on these eyewitnesses to this huge crime to be released to Israel.

Who authorized this?

US State Department, Justice Department, and the White House.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   10:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#402. To: RickyJ (#397)

We have Alan Sabrosky, a Jew by birth saying that Israel did 9/11. Some may say so what? Well he is not just a Jew by birth is a former director of strategic studies at the Army War college. This guy knows warfare, he knows disinformation tactics, and further more, he claims he presented his findings to Generals and they were shocked and were outraged to come to the realization that Israel did 9/11.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   11:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#403. To: All, *9-11* (#402)

In case anyone missed this...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   11:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#404. To: All (#403)

The following link leads to a huge collection of material obtained via the Freedom of Information Act in relation to the Mossad agents arrested on 9/11/2001.

The "Dancing Israelis" FBI Report - Debunked


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   11:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#405. To: All (#404)

And here's more...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   11:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#406. To: All, *9-11* (#405)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   12:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#407. To: All (#406)

Urban Moving Systems and Detained Israelis

THE STRANGE STORY OF URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS

"Dominick Suter, owner of the company Urban Moving Systems, flees the country to Israel. The FBI later tells ABC News, “Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.” Suter has been tied to the five Israeli agents caught filming the WTC attack. The FBI had questioned Suter around September 12, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. However, when the FBI returns a few days later, he is gone." [source: ABC News 6/21/2002]


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   12:17:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#408. To: All (#407)

All The Necessary Proofs - Israel Did 9/11


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   12:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#409. To: FormerLurker (#403)

Just WOW.

We would have never stood a chance of getting to the bottom of this with out the net.

Thanks

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tom007  posted on  2012-09-15   12:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#410. To: tom007 (#409)

We would have never stood a chance of getting to the bottom of this with out the net.

Thanks

You're welcome Tom.

There's a plethora of evidence out there, if one knows what to look for.

The key words are "Urban Moving Systems".


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-15   13:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#411. To: Cynicom (#337)

9-11 was a NORAD test that went live. It's that simple. Ahmadinejad was right. The U.S. was behind the events of 9-11. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-15   13:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#412. To: FormerLurker (#410)

The key words are "Urban Moving Systems".

This was the name on the van which the "dancing Israelis" used.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-15   13:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#413. To: FormerLurker (#403)

Building #7 fell in its own footprint. A sure sign of a planned demolition.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-15   13:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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