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Title: How 9/11 Was Done
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URL Source: http://physics911.net/how-911-was-done/
Published: Sep 3, 2012
Author: http://physics911.net/how-911-was-done/
Post Date: 2012-09-03 14:09:24 by tom007
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How 9/11 Was Done

For additional notes see the accompanying blog 911notes.blogspot.com. Prologue

Read the following two screens of text to learn what happened at 9/11.

9/11 was a master plot, concocted by a handfull of Israelis and dual passport Americans and carried out by the resources of the Mossad.

Larry Silverstein leases a nearly worthless dinosaur WTC building complex (worthless due to the asbestos the buildings were stuffed with and needed to be cleaned up, the cost of which may have rivaled the value of the buildings themselves) weeks before 9/11, makes sure it is over insured against terrorist acts and hires an Israeli security firm. From that moment on the coast is clear to let a team of demolition experts from the Israeli army led by Peer Segalovitz into the WTC buildings. These charges plus detonators had been prepared at the premises of the Urban Moving Systems company, a Mossad front. During the weeks before 9/11 these prepared charges were loaded into vans, driven into the basements of WTC Twin Towers next to the elevator shaft, unloaded into the elevator, and lifted onto the roof of the elevator through the opening in the elevator ceiling. Next the elevator moved from floor to floor while charges where being attached to the columns as displayed in this video from 0:22 onwards. The detonators of these charges were radiographic controlled and finally detonated from WTC7 on the day of 9/11.

Fast backward, Hamburg 54 Marienstrasse, july 2000, 22:40. Mohamed Atta, Al Shehhi and Jarrah (who were later blamed of being the pilots of flight 11, 175 and 93 respectively), who share the apartment hear the ringing of the door bell. Jarrah opens the door, 5 masked men make their way into the apartment with drawn pistols. The 3 Arabs are forced to lay on the ground. Their passports are confiscated, next the 3 men are made unconscious with some liquid and strangled to death afterwards. The bodies are carried out of the apartment into a van and driven off towards a desolate spot at the boarding of the Elbe river outside Hamburg, 1 kilometer north of Borstel and disposed of into the river with a bag filled with stones tied to their feet. The 3 passports are now in the possession of the agents of the Mossad, who carried out the raid on the apartment and 3 Arabs have vanished without anybody knowing that they are dead. Not long after the raid the 3 passports are given to 3 Israeli agents who were selected on having some resemblance with the 3 Arabs just killed. They make for America soon afterwards in the summer of 2000 and start laying a trail at flight schools, posing with the stolen identities from the 3 Arabs killed.

Years earlier the israeli Michael Goff working for PTech, an Arab owned software company that develops key enterprise software for many government institutions like NORAD and FAA, using his secure channel with another israeli Amit Yoran, somehow manages to give Israeli army computer programmers access to this critical computer code. It was due to this manipulation that the hijackings on 9/11 remained unnoticed by the flight controller of NORAD. Once this was in place the planes could be taken over by remote control and flown into the World Trade Center.

The hijacking of airliners by remote control had been tested as a dress rehearsal for 9/11 on the Egypt Air flight 990 that crashed into the Atlantic on October 31, 1999.

Now everything was in place to commit the crime of the century. On the day of 9/11 the Israeli stand-ins for the ‘Arab hijackers’ showed up at the predestined departure airports to make sure they were captured on surveillance camera’s. The crucial point here is that the security at both the departure airports was in hands of an Israeli firm Huntleigh-USA, a subsidiary of the Dutch based but Israeli owned ICTS led by a fellow named Menahem Atzmon. And this is crucial: Atzmon used to be a colleague of Olmert in 1998. So there you have the link between the 9/11 operative level (an airport security firm) and the highest level of Israeli politics. What happened on the morning of 9/11 was that after the Israeli stand-ins were captured on camera, they left the airport via a side entrance and the show could begin. Minutes after the planes became air born somebody somehow was able to send a signal to the planes, causing the control panels to be disabled and the flight destination altered. What happened was that an anti-hijack system was activated (code word ‘home run’) and the regular pilot was put out of control. This pilot will probably have tried frantically to regain control of his aircraft. It is not very likely he will have told his passengers about the new situation since that would only cause panic. The passengers probably suspected nothing and hence had no reason to make any phone calls to their relatives (which were not possible anyway). And while the 9/11 passengers unsuspecting travel towards their immanent deaths, on the ground from a war room Israeli agents carry out phone calls to relatives of the passengers that were still in the air, using voice morphing technology and caller-ID spoofing and thus planted the Arabs-did-it-deception in the public consciousness. The sound samples necessary to carry out the fake telephone calls had been obtained via the israeli infiltration of American telephone networks by Israeli firms like Amdocs and Verint. By the time that the passengers were puzzled as they discerned the New York sky line it was already too late.

Meanwhile on the other side of the Hudson river the members of the Israeli team that planted the demolition charges were waiting for things to happen. And while the rest of New York experienced in horror the events that were unfolding that day, the demolition experts were celebrating and high-fiving. The plot had worked out magnificently.

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Core Argument

Ok, I admit. Some elements in this story are speculative. I do not know for instance if Atta was killed in Germany or in America. But the story is an coherent educated speculation. It is an attempt to reconstruct the events of 9/11. Myriads of web sites exist that expose the inconsistencies in the official story, that obviously is a fraud. This story offers an integral explanation of what could have happened and in all likelihood more or less did happen at 9/11 as there can be hardly any doubt about who was behind 9/11 if one rejects the official story. Some elements remain vague, like what happened exactly to WTC7, flight77, flight93 or Mohamed Atta. But these questions are of academic interest only. It’s clear who was behind 9/11 and what happened in detail with WTC-1/2 and the planes. That is enough. Here’s where most people got killed. The rest of the plot can be uncovered by a tribunal.

In order to prevent that you get swallowed up by yet another 10 meters of screen text here is the core of the argument. The story is based on 2 broadly accepted postulates:

1) WTC was brought down by controlled demolition 2) The ‘dancing Israelis’ on the morning of 9/11 had foreknowledge of things to come

These 2 premises are enough to put the Official Conspiracy Theory (Arabs did it) out of business.

Premise 2 leads to the preliminary conclusion that the Israelis had foreknowledge because they organized the attacks themselves. Since Israelis are not known to commit suicide attacks we have to assume that the airplanes that crashed into their destinations were remote controlled. If one accepts this as a working hypothesis than there is a lot, I mean really a lot, of material that supports this Israeli Conspiracy Theory that replaces the official Arab Conspiracy Theory. We have the dedicated Zionist Silverstein who leases the WTC complex and over insures it against terrorism (leading to a hansom profit); we know that security at all departure airports and ‘arrival airports’ (WTC) was in Israeli hands (Huntleigh-USA and Kroll Associates, resp.); we know that the owner of Huntleigh-USA, Menachem Atzmon, a convicted criminal, had strong ties to Ehud Olmert, that is the highest level of Israeli politics; we also know that the Israeli secret service can eavesdrop on virtually everybody in the USA via Israeli owned companies like Amdocs and Verint which gave the Mossad the possibility to obtain sound samples of future 9/11 passengers to apply voice morphing to in order to make the fake phone calls on 9/11. And of course there is Dov Zakheim, the real mastermind of 9/11 who was CEO of SPC for 4 years prior to 9/11, a company that produces systems for remote control of airplanes. The same Zakheim that was a member of the Zionist dominated PNAC group, that more or less plotted for a global American empire, and suggested that a ‘New Pearl Harbor‘ (page 51) could speed things up a bit; and finally the same Zakheim that 6 months before 9/11 became supervisor of a group of Pentagon comptrollers that had to sort out what had happened to the 2.3 trillion dollars that were missing from the Pentagon books; many of these comptrollers conveniently got killed on 9/11 and much of the financial data went with them. This is the core of the story.

Note: I am not claiming that 9/11 is solved. Of this however we can be certain: WTC controlled demolition, Israelis carried out the operation, no Arab hijackers, mastermind Zakheim, motive PNAC & Clean Break and remote control. I do not care about flight77 or 93, those are details to be solved by crime investigators. The most pressing question is that of remote control: how was that done? Were the original flights 11 and 175 remote controlled themselves or was there a plane swap as some have suggested, including Bollyn?

Disclaimer: nobody is guilty until convicted by a court of law. This blog’s intent is to stimulate thinking about 9/11 from a different angle than the official one. From day one the blame has been put at bin Laden and his people without real evidence. Today bin Laden is no longer persecuted for 9/11 according to the FBI website. The theory proposed here might be true or false or contain some truth. In the end it must be an official investigation that determines who is guilty and who is not. This blog is dedicated to Italian ex-president Cossiga who is the highest ranking statesman to date who has openly stated that it was the Mossad who has carried out the 9/11 attacks.

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#98. To: noone222 (#97)

9/11 was well above my pay grade.

That being true and being a natural born cynic, none of it passed the smell test.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-05   9:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Cynicom (#94)

Matter of fact, the hi jackers were indeed found and identified. I cannot recall if it was four or six men that were identified that way.

Did you neglect to check out the informtion I posted for you which states NO Arab DNA was found at the crash site, and no hijackers remains were identified by the autopsy, according to a FOIA request?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   12:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Cynicom (#95)

Millions of citizens support the endless wars in the Middle East because they know what the bad guys did on 9/11.

I know that was sarcasm Cyni, where the proper wording would have been they THINK they know. Yet those people are obviously math and science challenged where they never learned anything beyond simple high school science and basic math.

To a college educated person familiar with physics and math, the manner in which the towers collapsed was impossible without controlled demolotion.

To those familiar with aerodynamics, it is impossible for a 757 to have flown as low as it did at over 500 mph and strike the ground floor with its engines buzzing 3 feet off the ground, which is where they'd have to be for the aircraft to enter the Pentagon in the manner in which it did.

It is also impossible for any of the "hijackers" to have survived and proceeded with their lives as normal, yet at least some of those identified as hijackers are still alive and are going on with their lives in their native lands.

Some of the wacky theories set forth in regards to 9/11 can be easily dismissed, but when the events are explained away with irrational assumations, such as a 757 flown by a flight school washout managed to achieve the impossible and defy the laws of physics and probability, well, that's as much a diversion away from the true facts as any of those other wacky theories.

But at least you can agree that the official story is pure fantasy, and that the events of that day were welcomed by those at the top in order to bring about a totaltarian form of control over the populace, along with great wealth for themselves and their cohorts.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   12:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Itistoolate, GreyLmist (#21)

http://southeastasianews.org/mai..._pyramid_mega_ritual.html

What you need to know about the British-Israel World Foundation

"In the late 1930s, the British Israel World Federation Movement's Destiny Magazine published articles identifying September 2001 as the target date for beginning their planned global theocratic state -- a"Kingdom of Heaven on Earth."

Jordan Maxwell presents the following ultra-high-resolution scans of the ORIGINAL ARTICLES so you can see for yourself what these people have been talking privately about for generations in their own publications...."

"Great Pyramid Prophecy" for "Rebirth of Civilization" etc.

"...September 17th, 2001 A.D. is the date of the new moon heralding the Feast of Trumpets ushering in the Millennium, at 6,000 years of GREAT PYRAMID cronology from the autumnal equinoctial full moon (astronomical), 4,000 B.D. The date, September 17th, 2001 A.D. is defined by the GREAT PYRAMID's inch-month scale of chronology (The Great Pyramid's Prophecy Concerning the British Empire and America, Plate 1, page 5)...." etc. etc.

http://www.cephas-library.com/british-israel-2.html

"Birth of Jesus Christ September 11, 3 B.C."

http://www.cephas-library.com/british-israel-3.html / http://www.cortright.org/revsign.htm

search "the great pyramid prophecy concerning the british empire and america"

READ IT BEFORE IT'S BANNED BY THE US GOVERNMENT - PART 27

By Thomas R. Horn

October 13, 2009

[re US Great Seal and Great Pyramid]

http://www.newswithviews.com/Horn/thomas126.htm

THE WITNESS OF THE GREAT PYRAMID

"The Great Pyramid is a symbol of the Christ, Head and Body (Jesus and His Church)......."

[more likely the Witness of ANTIChrist. Remember what Cornwallis told George Washington...Holy War against America...churches teaching Jews' Religion...America working toward Divine Government = the British Empire overseen by the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.]

"...England and the U.S.A., having led the nations into the false cul-de-sac of industrialism, it is only right that they, the building race, should be the shock absorbers for the rest of the nations, and now once more be the first to lead the nations from the material age into the age of spiritual power....."

http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/pyramid.html

Re: "the building race" see the British-Israel World Foundation on 9/11 and all the numerology associated with it in "The Building Race Acts to Pattern"...oh yeah, and this:

"....The actual battleline date for the initiation of the war on terrorism was 16th-17th September, 2001, being 1600 days, the number of Divine judgment given in Revelation 14:20, from the beginning of Tony Blair's premiership on 1st-2nd May, 1997. The Times, London, for 17th September, 2001, said "The countdown towards America's fight-back against terror begins today." Strange to say the address of the White House in Washington is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

On Sunday evening 16th September, 2001, Tony Blair emerged from 10 Downing Street to stand before the microphones and state "We are at war with terrorism." This quotation in fact formed the main headline on The Times, London, on 17th September, 2001, being the Feast of Trumpets that year.

[17th-22nd September, 2001, was a defining point in time seen by David Davidson and Bernard Nicklin some 60 or 70 years previously in their studies of the structural symbolism of The Great Pyramid's Divine Message and of Divine Time Measures in day-period chronology; as was the date of 19th March, 1994, and the "Exodus" from "The Field of Mixed Seed."]....."

www.britishisrael.co.uk/showart.php?id=26 . Nothing's changed! They are still talking that shiite!

More British-Israel [ www.seekgod.ca/identity.htm ] Fables

"...America and Great Britain have lost their way but are now finding it again in this valley of disappointment and tears; and through this present collapse of the Babylonian economic system which we have followed all these centuries, our people will find their way to Jehovah their God, and to His Kingdom.

(Well the West - the nations of Israel, the house of Judah, and the people of Russia, were yet, at the writing of this book, to go through a time of trouble not seen the like of up to that time in history. And it will all be repeated again, for the THIRD (first and second World Wars being the first two times) TIME around, and it will be a time of trouble such as never before and never will be again. Then Jesus will come and put a stop to mankind blowing themselves to oblivion. Israel and Judah will be saved out of it, brought back to the Promised Land, restored, and Christ will reign as King of kings and Lord of lords from Jerusalem, sitting on the throne of David - Keith Hunt)

"Who bath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion, travailed, she brought forth her children."--Isaiah 66:8......"

http://www.keithhunt.com/Isra19.html

Does this have some connection to this:

"Strange Illuminati Clock Counting Down to Sept. 9th, 2012 » Philosophers stone

A very strange count down is going on at a website called “illuminati order” and is to end September 9th 2012 at 13:23:33. No one on YT who has posted about this knows what it is counting down to, yet is causing a small stir on the internet. Feel free to leave a comment of what you may think this is about. The first page shows a disk with “Academia Omni LVX” and what seems to be a count down and a puzzle combination.

Some have speculated that it might be a countdown concerning the closing of the Paralympics in London; Festival of Flaims; 9/9/12 -- 9+9+1+2 = 21/Blackjack/ Operation Blackjack/Ref: The telegraph; Academi the new name for Blackwater/Xe. Also, a commenter at Smoking Mirrors with the screen-name "Falseflag Sept.9,2012?" is concerned about a football stadium strike as a pretext for war on Iran." http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=147738&Disp=27#C27

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GreyLmist, do you care to make some sense out of their fatal attraction for the Hegelian Dialectic [they cause the problem, the reaction, and the solution...voila!]? IMO, the Israelis may have carried out the attacks, but are merely stooges for those loony Judeo-Brits. [ www.seekgod.ca/identity.htm ]

P.S. Note the AntiChrist Masonic Floundering Fathers [in cahoots with the British] set us up from the beginning [again, Hegelian Dialectic]: http://watch.pair.com/death-phoenix.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-09-05   12:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#101)

"Birth of Jesus Christ September 11, 3 B.C."

http://www.cephas-library.com/british-israel-3.html / http://www.cortright.org/revsign.htm

The Jews call Him "Yeshu": acronym [?] for: "May his name be blotted out/forgotten".

Now we call September 11 Patriot's Day or some such thing, and ring bells [signifying sacrifice to baal?] for all the victims holocausted by the antichrist NWO on Christ's b'day.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-09-05   12:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: noone222 (#97)

Pentagram, I'd ask "where are the videos" clearly showing a commercial jet hitting it. ?

They exist and if they showed a 787 the perps would have released them.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-05   13:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: noone222, Cynicom, All, *9-11* (#97)

One obvious fact is that hardly any video has surfaced even though the target area was one of the most secure in the UNIVERSE. Since the immediate subject is the Pentagram, I'd ask "where are the videos" clearly showing a commercial jet hitting it. ?

Not only were there public cameras which may have (or SHOULD have) caught the approach, ie. those of the (never released) Virginia DOT, Doubletree Hotel (doesn't show a plane), and Citgo station (doesn't show a plane), but there were a number of cameras on the roof of the Pentagon itself which would have recorded the actual approach of any aircraft as clear as day.

Those Pentagon videos have never been released. Now WHY would that be if they actually DID show what approached the Pentagon that morning of 9/11/2001?

They would have plastered them on TV 24/7 for months if those videos did in fact support the "Flight 77 hit the Pentagon" claim.

That the FBI confiscated the public videos immediately after the event and did not release them till years later, with the exception of the Virginia DOT video which STILL hasn't been released, indicates that those who pull the strings of the FBI were in on the Pentagon attack, and obviously, the entire 9/11 attack alltogther.

It follows that those who pull the strings of the Pentagon knew full well what those Pentagon tapes contained, and it is why they will never be released.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   16:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: tom007 (#103)

They exist and if they showed a 787 the perps would have released them.

Flight 77 was a 757, but yeah, exactly. That they haven't played those videos over and over on Fox News, CNN, ABC/CBS/NBC, etc., indicates the videos prove that Flight 77 did NOT hit the Pentagon.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   16:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: noone222, Cynicom, tom007, *9-11* (#97) (Edited)

One other thing about all this is the ongoing coverup. This is not just a Bush administration crime, it is a crime perpetrated by those who continue to act as if it were truly bin Laden who masterminded this thing, knowing full well that it's a huge lie, and having the power to bring those behind it to justice yet fail to do so.

The news media, the politicians, the military, they are all complicit in the coverup, which is a bad as the original crime itself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   16:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Lod (#2)

OBL was never charged with any 9.11

OBL was another patsy, just as Lee Harvey Oswald in the JFK assassination. He never had a thing to do with 9-11. It was an inside job.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-05   16:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: FormerLurker (#106)

the military

The Happy Hooligans, an air defense company based in North Dakota, was on call for the events of 9-11. I know of a retired Colonel (now deceased) whose son was assigned to this unit. He told me that they never got an order to intercept those commercial airliners. They would have been shot down once they turned off their transponders and deviatated from their flight plans.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-05   16:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: BTP Holdings (#108)

The corruption is at the very top, and there are apparently a good number of top officials in all branches of government who are totally and completely compromised.

Don't see any other explanation for any of it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   16:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: FormerLurker (#105)

Flight 77 did NOT hit the Pentagon.

I heard that it was a cruise missile that hit the Pentagon. I saw a film clip taken from a security camera at a parking gate. It sure did not look like a commercial aircraft that flew into the Pentagon.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-05   16:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: BTP Holdings (#110)

Whatever it was, it wasn't a 757, thus was not Flight 77 as claimed.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   16:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: FormerLurker (#109)

The corruption is at the very top, and there are apparently a good number of top officials in all branches of government who are totally and completely compromised.

Don't see any other explanation for any of it.

Donn's first book was titled, "Barbarians Inside the Gates". I still have a copy of it somewhere, or, I could private message you with his widow's phone number and you could call her and buy it from her. He wrote four books in all. I've seen three of them. Hope to get a website back online before too long and put them all up for sale.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-05   16:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: noone222, Cynicom, tom007, BTPHoldings, All, *9-11* (#104)

I'd be really curious as to what those roof cameras captured that morning, wouldn't you?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   17:50:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: FormerLurker (#77)

It wasn't just captured on video by MANY news agencies, people in New York actually saw it happen live.

You have what evidence that they "actually" saw it live?

I guess a missle might have hit the pentagon, but there's little, if any, evidence of it.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-09-05   18:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: FormerLurker, To, noone222, Cynicom, tom007, BTPHoldings, All (#113)

By way of Deception, thou shalt do war


Itistoolate  posted on  2012-09-05   18:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: tom007 (#79)

The truth is stranger than fiction.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-09-05   18:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Cynicom (#84)

wud..

Wheres de plane boss, wheres de plane?????

hehehehehehehehehe

Yeah, real funny. Hahahahaha...

good to see your able to entertain yourself over there, Cyni :)


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-09-05   18:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: tom007 (#0)

Never in the history of the planet, has one, let alone three, structural steel skyscrapers completely collapsed from any type of fire, be it that there was SFRM(Spray-Applied Fire-Resistive Materials)or not. As a matter of fact, there has never even been a failure of a main vertical girder.

Now, there has been some localized horizontal collapse of small sections of steel skyscrapers that had suffered through some horrific fires that burned much hotter and longer than those three on 911, but those collapse stop because there is not enough energy to keep the collapse going.

Lastly, the Jersey Girls, who had family die that day, the very ones that forced the Bush administration to finally investigate that day, do not believe the governments official theory of what happened.

Why should I?

Mark

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” ― Benito Mussolini

Kamala  posted on  2012-09-05   18:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Kamala (#118)

do not believe the governments official theory of what happened.

Why should I?

We all obviously should not.

And , really, the details of how it happened aren't too important, the big picture here is all that matters.

The Greatest Human Crime that ever has been perpetuated on a globe occurred on 9-11.

And a pox on (military) Popular Mechanics.

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tom007  posted on  2012-09-05   18:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: wudidiz (#114)

You have what evidence that they "actually" saw it live?

I guess a missle might have hit the pentagon, but there's little, if any, evidence of it.

Wud, I know you mean well. Please don't take it as an insult, but if you bothered doing any sort of research into 9/11 you'd know that it's 99.8% likely that planes hit the WTC towers, and some sort of cruise missile hit the Pentagon.

If you contemplate the fact that those who are involved with the actual events of that day are actively covering up this information that we are talking about here with false paths, you'd consider the strong possibililty that the "no planes" idea is flat out improbable, unlikely, and more than likely one of those false leads.

There is enough 100% pure scientific data to crucify the perps without jumping to questionable theories with little or no collaborating evidence.

Sure, IF there were no planes well that'd be one hell of an exercise in deceipt on the part of hundreds of witnesses and news crews. But there is enough tangible evidence to demonstrate that the events of that day were in no way related to 19 Arab "terrorists", but were in fact part of a large scale military/espionage operation played out by the Israeli Mossad, Pakistani ISI, and the highest levels of the US government.

There is no need to follow bizarre stories which do not follow logic or probability, and which have no basis in scientific reality.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   20:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Itistoolate (#115)

By way of Deception, thou shalt do war

Exactly. And judging from former Israeli Prime Minister (and current Israeli Defense Minister) Barak's statements starting at 7:35 into the video, it is he who is directing US foreign policy, as all of the "enemies" listed are those who were later attacked and destroyed by the US with the exception of Iran, whom they are demanding we attack ASAP.

The loss of our rights appear to have been planned by him and his treacherous pals as well.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   20:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: wudidiz (#117)

good to see your able to entertain yourself over there, Cyni :)

I do not take most people seriously, never myself.

One person told me the plane was in the Atlantic, one said it was seen in Mexico unloading passengers.

Odd part???

None of the passengers and crew have ever appeared.

See the problem right there????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-05   20:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Cynicom (#122)

There are a LOT of questions here.

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tom007  posted on  2012-09-05   21:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: tom007 (#123)

There are a LOT of questions here.

True...

However far too many people are stumbling over odds and ends, bits and pieces, going up blind alleys, all of which the government loves.

In 1941, we the rubes, had no idea we had been lied to, conned, scammed, we just got in line and did what we were told. No one ever went to prison, the Supreme Court said no one was to blame. They lied too.

We gain absolutely nothing chasing shadows on 9/11, in fact it helps the criminals to obscure the entire event, just as the Supreme court obscured Pearl Harbor.

Frankly, without a full fledged revolution and dragging all those in government at the time, into court, nothing will ever come of this.

A ready firing squad loosens the lips of men, they babble endlessly to save their own skin.

Other than that, it will take another fifty years for the truth to see the light of day.

We do not have that long.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-05   21:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Cynicom, tom007 (#124)

We gain absolutely nothing chasing shadows on 9/11, in fact it helps the criminals to obscure the entire event, just as the Supreme court obscured Pearl Harbor.

Being that the Romney team is made up of a large number of 9/11 perps, I think we have EVERYTHING to lose if we don't speak out fast and loud. Or should it be "fast and furious"...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-05   22:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#102)

"Birth of Jesus Christ September 11, 3 B.C."

http://www.september11ne ws .com/Sept11History.htm: According to Hebrew scriptures September 11, 1999 was the 6,000th anniversary of Adam's creation, and year 1 on the Hebrew calendar.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-05   23:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: FormerLurker (#120)

if you bothered doing any sort of research into 9/11 you'd know that it's 99.8% likely that planes hit the WTC towers

Well said, but what evidence do you have that planes hit the wtc?


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-09-06   2:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: FormerLurker (#120)

I agree this no plane theory is based solely on video evidence manipulated by the media to obscure the identity of the planes that actually hit the towers.

If it was shown that it wasn't Americans Airlines or United planes that hit the Towers then everyone would start questioning the government's and media's story.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-06   3:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Cynicom (#122) (Edited)

None of the passengers and crew have ever appeared.

I find it interesting that the general public have little if "any" direct first hand knowledge of the passengers allegedly aboard the planes that day. We have seen some on TV, some are thought to be married to well known persons like Ted Olson but unless you walk amongst these dark shadowy personalities all you really know has been fed to you.

I'm simply saying that most info that the general public has is fed to them like pablum to a baby.

One other thing I think important is that there were NO ARAB/MUSLIM names on the passenger lists of any of the planes involved. Maybe all of those arabs dressed up like white Europeans to evade detection ?????

We've been bullshitted by the best bullshitters in the business.

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-09-06   6:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: noone222 (#129)

We've been bullshitted by the best bullshitters in the business.

True but there is no need in aiding them to keep spreading the material.

See what happens when there is one naysayer thrown in with a pack of hot blooded conspiracy hounds????

One hundred thirty posts. I charge by the post. hehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-06   7:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Cynicom (#130)

One hundred thirty posts. I charge by the post. hehehehehe

I knew you were in it for the money ! (hehehe)

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-09-06   7:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: noone222 (#131)

Dont let it get around but Christine is very poor at paying.

I been thinking of taking her to court.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-06   8:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Cynicom (#132)

Dont let it get around but Christine is very poor at paying.

I been thinking of taking her to court.

You better hope for a female judge.

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-09-06   8:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: noone222 (#133)

Well, she is guilty, I submit my bills and she ignores them.

If I feel good again today, will see if can find a thread that needs a naysayer.

Akin to jabbing a stick into yellow jackets nest.

One little poke and bzzzzzzz out they come, ready to do battle. I could run, but am to olde for that, so I pull out my smoke pot and cloud the issue so they get lost.

Never fails.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-06   9:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Kamala (#118)

Lastly, the Jersey Girls, who had family die that day, the very ones that forced the Bush administration to finally investigate that day,

It took 444 days before an investigation was begun.

And the 9-11 commission was never charged with finding out what happened, only how it could be prevented from happening again.

A charade from the git go.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-06   9:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: FormerLurker (#106)

One other thing about all this is the ongoing coverup. This is not just a Bush administration crime, it is a crime perpetrated by those who continue to act as if it were truly bin Laden who masterminded this thing, knowing full well that it's a huge lie, and having the power to bring those behind it to justice yet fail to do so.

The news media, the politicians, the military, they are all complicit in the coverup, which is a bad as the original crime itself.

Yes indeed.

This is an ongoing crime.

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tom007  posted on  2012-09-06   9:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: FormerLurker (#109)

The corruption is at the very top, and there are apparently a good number of top officials in all branches of government who are totally and completely compromised.

Don't see any other explanation for any of it.

Any challenges to this?

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-06   9:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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