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Title: How 9/11 Was Done
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URL Source: http://physics911.net/how-911-was-done/
Published: Sep 3, 2012
Author: http://physics911.net/how-911-was-done/
Post Date: 2012-09-03 14:09:24 by tom007
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How 9/11 Was Done

For additional notes see the accompanying blog 911notes.blogspot.com. Prologue

Read the following two screens of text to learn what happened at 9/11.

9/11 was a master plot, concocted by a handfull of Israelis and dual passport Americans and carried out by the resources of the Mossad.

Larry Silverstein leases a nearly worthless dinosaur WTC building complex (worthless due to the asbestos the buildings were stuffed with and needed to be cleaned up, the cost of which may have rivaled the value of the buildings themselves) weeks before 9/11, makes sure it is over insured against terrorist acts and hires an Israeli security firm. From that moment on the coast is clear to let a team of demolition experts from the Israeli army led by Peer Segalovitz into the WTC buildings. These charges plus detonators had been prepared at the premises of the Urban Moving Systems company, a Mossad front. During the weeks before 9/11 these prepared charges were loaded into vans, driven into the basements of WTC Twin Towers next to the elevator shaft, unloaded into the elevator, and lifted onto the roof of the elevator through the opening in the elevator ceiling. Next the elevator moved from floor to floor while charges where being attached to the columns as displayed in this video from 0:22 onwards. The detonators of these charges were radiographic controlled and finally detonated from WTC7 on the day of 9/11.

Fast backward, Hamburg 54 Marienstrasse, july 2000, 22:40. Mohamed Atta, Al Shehhi and Jarrah (who were later blamed of being the pilots of flight 11, 175 and 93 respectively), who share the apartment hear the ringing of the door bell. Jarrah opens the door, 5 masked men make their way into the apartment with drawn pistols. The 3 Arabs are forced to lay on the ground. Their passports are confiscated, next the 3 men are made unconscious with some liquid and strangled to death afterwards. The bodies are carried out of the apartment into a van and driven off towards a desolate spot at the boarding of the Elbe river outside Hamburg, 1 kilometer north of Borstel and disposed of into the river with a bag filled with stones tied to their feet. The 3 passports are now in the possession of the agents of the Mossad, who carried out the raid on the apartment and 3 Arabs have vanished without anybody knowing that they are dead. Not long after the raid the 3 passports are given to 3 Israeli agents who were selected on having some resemblance with the 3 Arabs just killed. They make for America soon afterwards in the summer of 2000 and start laying a trail at flight schools, posing with the stolen identities from the 3 Arabs killed.

Years earlier the israeli Michael Goff working for PTech, an Arab owned software company that develops key enterprise software for many government institutions like NORAD and FAA, using his secure channel with another israeli Amit Yoran, somehow manages to give Israeli army computer programmers access to this critical computer code. It was due to this manipulation that the hijackings on 9/11 remained unnoticed by the flight controller of NORAD. Once this was in place the planes could be taken over by remote control and flown into the World Trade Center.

The hijacking of airliners by remote control had been tested as a dress rehearsal for 9/11 on the Egypt Air flight 990 that crashed into the Atlantic on October 31, 1999.

Now everything was in place to commit the crime of the century. On the day of 9/11 the Israeli stand-ins for the ‘Arab hijackers’ showed up at the predestined departure airports to make sure they were captured on surveillance camera’s. The crucial point here is that the security at both the departure airports was in hands of an Israeli firm Huntleigh-USA, a subsidiary of the Dutch based but Israeli owned ICTS led by a fellow named Menahem Atzmon. And this is crucial: Atzmon used to be a colleague of Olmert in 1998. So there you have the link between the 9/11 operative level (an airport security firm) and the highest level of Israeli politics. What happened on the morning of 9/11 was that after the Israeli stand-ins were captured on camera, they left the airport via a side entrance and the show could begin. Minutes after the planes became air born somebody somehow was able to send a signal to the planes, causing the control panels to be disabled and the flight destination altered. What happened was that an anti-hijack system was activated (code word ‘home run’) and the regular pilot was put out of control. This pilot will probably have tried frantically to regain control of his aircraft. It is not very likely he will have told his passengers about the new situation since that would only cause panic. The passengers probably suspected nothing and hence had no reason to make any phone calls to their relatives (which were not possible anyway). And while the 9/11 passengers unsuspecting travel towards their immanent deaths, on the ground from a war room Israeli agents carry out phone calls to relatives of the passengers that were still in the air, using voice morphing technology and caller-ID spoofing and thus planted the Arabs-did-it-deception in the public consciousness. The sound samples necessary to carry out the fake telephone calls had been obtained via the israeli infiltration of American telephone networks by Israeli firms like Amdocs and Verint. By the time that the passengers were puzzled as they discerned the New York sky line it was already too late.

Meanwhile on the other side of the Hudson river the members of the Israeli team that planted the demolition charges were waiting for things to happen. And while the rest of New York experienced in horror the events that were unfolding that day, the demolition experts were celebrating and high-fiving. The plot had worked out magnificently.

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Core Argument

Ok, I admit. Some elements in this story are speculative. I do not know for instance if Atta was killed in Germany or in America. But the story is an coherent educated speculation. It is an attempt to reconstruct the events of 9/11. Myriads of web sites exist that expose the inconsistencies in the official story, that obviously is a fraud. This story offers an integral explanation of what could have happened and in all likelihood more or less did happen at 9/11 as there can be hardly any doubt about who was behind 9/11 if one rejects the official story. Some elements remain vague, like what happened exactly to WTC7, flight77, flight93 or Mohamed Atta. But these questions are of academic interest only. It’s clear who was behind 9/11 and what happened in detail with WTC-1/2 and the planes. That is enough. Here’s where most people got killed. The rest of the plot can be uncovered by a tribunal.

In order to prevent that you get swallowed up by yet another 10 meters of screen text here is the core of the argument. The story is based on 2 broadly accepted postulates:

1) WTC was brought down by controlled demolition 2) The ‘dancing Israelis’ on the morning of 9/11 had foreknowledge of things to come

These 2 premises are enough to put the Official Conspiracy Theory (Arabs did it) out of business.

Premise 2 leads to the preliminary conclusion that the Israelis had foreknowledge because they organized the attacks themselves. Since Israelis are not known to commit suicide attacks we have to assume that the airplanes that crashed into their destinations were remote controlled. If one accepts this as a working hypothesis than there is a lot, I mean really a lot, of material that supports this Israeli Conspiracy Theory that replaces the official Arab Conspiracy Theory. We have the dedicated Zionist Silverstein who leases the WTC complex and over insures it against terrorism (leading to a hansom profit); we know that security at all departure airports and ‘arrival airports’ (WTC) was in Israeli hands (Huntleigh-USA and Kroll Associates, resp.); we know that the owner of Huntleigh-USA, Menachem Atzmon, a convicted criminal, had strong ties to Ehud Olmert, that is the highest level of Israeli politics; we also know that the Israeli secret service can eavesdrop on virtually everybody in the USA via Israeli owned companies like Amdocs and Verint which gave the Mossad the possibility to obtain sound samples of future 9/11 passengers to apply voice morphing to in order to make the fake phone calls on 9/11. And of course there is Dov Zakheim, the real mastermind of 9/11 who was CEO of SPC for 4 years prior to 9/11, a company that produces systems for remote control of airplanes. The same Zakheim that was a member of the Zionist dominated PNAC group, that more or less plotted for a global American empire, and suggested that a ‘New Pearl Harbor‘ (page 51) could speed things up a bit; and finally the same Zakheim that 6 months before 9/11 became supervisor of a group of Pentagon comptrollers that had to sort out what had happened to the 2.3 trillion dollars that were missing from the Pentagon books; many of these comptrollers conveniently got killed on 9/11 and much of the financial data went with them. This is the core of the story.

Note: I am not claiming that 9/11 is solved. Of this however we can be certain: WTC controlled demolition, Israelis carried out the operation, no Arab hijackers, mastermind Zakheim, motive PNAC & Clean Break and remote control. I do not care about flight77 or 93, those are details to be solved by crime investigators. The most pressing question is that of remote control: how was that done? Were the original flights 11 and 175 remote controlled themselves or was there a plane swap as some have suggested, including Bollyn?

Disclaimer: nobody is guilty until convicted by a court of law. This blog’s intent is to stimulate thinking about 9/11 from a different angle than the official one. From day one the blame has been put at bin Laden and his people without real evidence. Today bin Laden is no longer persecuted for 9/11 according to the FBI website. The theory proposed here might be true or false or contain some truth. In the end it must be an official investigation that determines who is guilty and who is not. This blog is dedicated to Italian ex-president Cossiga who is the highest ranking statesman to date who has openly stated that it was the Mossad who has carried out the 9/11 attacks.

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The impact at shanksville? Where is that plane? The earth did not absorb it... the US military did not shoot it down... Their was no plane in shanksville. Just an old abandoned strip mine with an ordinance crater. No wings, no bodies, no plane.

Debris was recovered over a large area, indicating it was shot down or blew up in flight.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   12:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The pentagon.... What happened at the pentagon was impossible for commercial air craft....and even military craft would have a hard time doing it.... And again , lack of plane parts, luggage, people.... Did I mention the hole at the pentagon is not big enough to fit a plane?

Most likely a cruise missile.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   12:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Then their is New york....the one place we all saw planes.... on our TV sets. And we saw it over and over and over..... so it must be true. After all we saw it on TV and the government said it happened this way and I am not aware of the government ever using TV to lie to the public.... (Pardon me a moment while I put out this pants fire)

People there witnessed it, and a whole lot of cameras recorded it.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   12:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm

So this is your plan?

I thought I might playfully point out a few things you might not of thought of.... I thought perhaps you'd understand the wake vortex thingee... I thought I would give you a thought... maybe I should of thought better of it.

When it comes to forensic evidence one does not typically rely upon eye witness heresay.

It is sad. You are closed minded. I mean the evidence is right there to be observed or not observed once you know what to look for and why... And yet you do not feel inclined to do so because ???? because???? Because what? Is it because you saw planes on TV ergo they must of been real? I thought they were real too once. Then I learned a bit more. Don't close yourself off to learning new things. Especially true things...

I mean do you even dare touch the fact that many different broadcasts shown many different trajectories of the second plane impact? Not every trajectory can be the real one (if their was a real one) so one must agree that at least some of that footage was fake.... preplanned images meant to coerce an emotional response.

Keep your eyes on the smoke when watching a vid.... watch for that wake.

Stick to the physical facts and

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   12:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Go ahead... re-watch those vids.... Find the wake vortex... find the helicopter blades that don't disturb the smoke.... find the painful ugly truth.... it is sicker than most are willing to admit...

So you're trying to say there was no smoke? In your mind, were there any WTC towers to begin with, or was that all an ongoing hoax too?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   12:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I mean do you even dare touch the fact that many different broadcasts shown many different trajectories of the second plane impact? Not every trajectory can be the real one (if their was a real one) so one must agree that at least some of that footage was fake.... preplanned images meant to coerce an emotional response.

Give me an example of what you claim. Do you have any evidence?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   12:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Keep your eyes on the smoke when watching a vid.... watch for that wake.

Show me a vid where the plane flies through smoke. I haven't seen anything reflecting what you claim.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   12:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What do you mean "wake"? Boats leave wakes, not planes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake_turbulence

or

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryd...acts/TF-2004-14-DFRC.html or www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Wake_Vortex_Turbulence

Did you tell someone else here to learn physics buster?

ALSO when you say

B) Yes it IS possible to "lose" radar contact if the transponder is turned off. There are blind spots in the radar grid, where if the plane is not chirping its transponder, and it is flying through a radar blind spot, it will not appear on FAA screens.

You have not really done enough 911 research... US commercial craft are radar reflective, their are no blind spots on the east coast (never mind the rest of the US) and when A plane turns off it's transponder, the computer reading that transpondence tells every Air traffic controller monitoring the pertaining air space of the blip... so instead of the one jockey watching his plane EVERY jockey now gets to watch the plane. The system was set up to be full proof for a reason. You should get more intimate with it before shooting off at the hip.

Alas.....

You seem to have a closed made up mind and choose to exist here for the soul sake of argument against that which challenges your made up mind.

I mean if it did not challenge you it would not bother you... wouldn't be worth a response....

so it is a challenge I suppose....

You .... been incorrect, a few times... which means your willing to go at this conversation from an emotional place of passion rather than logic.

And you don't seem to be willing to pay attention to the details of anybodys postings in this thread beyond refuting them or ignoring them ...... the attempt at understanding is not being made on your part.

Sad that.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   12:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Did you tell someone else here to learn physics buster?

Show me a vid where the plane flies through smoke smartass.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   13:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Show me a vid where the plane flies through smoke smartass.

I gave you three different links already....the nasa link in particular should be good and instructive... Not my fault if you wont click a link.....

HERE

A plane flying through smoke

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrnGiIMGLs

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   13:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So you're trying to say that the hijacked aircraft were NOT lost on radar at anytime during their flights, and that FAA controllers knew exactly where they were at all times, eh?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   13:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

gave you three different links already....the nasa link in particular should be good and instructive... Not my fault if you wont click a link.....

Hey bud, I mean Flight 175 (or whatever aircraft it actually was) which hit the South Tower, not some NASA plane in a demonstration of vortices. YOU are claiming that particular aircraft didn't leave a vortex. Well no shit, it WOULDN'T have if it didn't fly through smoke.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   13:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So you're trying to say that the hijacked aircraft were NOT lost on radar at anytime during their flights, and that FAA controllers knew exactly where they were at all times, eh?

Did you know how silly that reads before you posted it?

I mean you just tried to put SO MANY words into my mouth that I did not write. Total conversation manipulation to twist a weaker mind into confusion and abandonment.... but I ain't the type to walk away.

No, I am not saying any of the sillyness you posted.

I will say this though... if the planes were real and if each one really turned off its transponders then each one would of been lit up on everyones screen....

IT'S CALLED A FAIL SAFE and if you had looked more into the procedures of Air Traffic Control then you would know this already.

Come on man you! You talk like you think you have done some 911 research but you can't even talk to me about typical air traffic control procedure? You just wanna spout about hijacker this everyone is in on it that... real sarcastic moon bat shit,

Is that all you really wanna do today?

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   13:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well no shit, it WOULDN'T have if it didn't fly through smoke.

PHYSICS!!!!!

THE WAKE FOLLOWS THE PLANE!!!!

OMG

Fire does not stop the wake vortex of a plane... AGAIN IF A PLANE CRASHES ITS WAKE VORTEX WILL FOLLOW IT INTO THE FIRE AND SWIRL IT UNTIL THEIR IS NO MORE FIRE OR THE WAKE DISSIPATES..

I hope the caps helped you catch what you seem to have missed previously.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   13:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So let's see. You believe that all the news reporters, camera crews, bystanders, firemen, police, television networks (US and foreign), conspired to fabricate a tale of planes striking the towers. They produced footage fabricated in a studio, and they all played along with the lie in real time as events unfolded.

According to you, FAA controllers had positive identification and knew the whereabouts of the planes at all times, so they must have seen where the aircraft actually were, before and after the alleged impacts. So THEY must have been in on it too.

And they did this all without anyone leaking any part of the plot, and they all pulled it off flawlessly. And oh yeah, it was all directed by bin Laden and his merry crew of 19 (some of whom are still alive to this day), because they hate our "freedom", right?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   13:37:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Fire does not stop the wake vortex of a plane... AGAIN IF A PLANE CRASHES ITS WAKE VORTEX WILL FOLLOW IT INTO THE FIRE AND SWIRL IT UNTIL THEIR IS NO MORE FIRE OR THE WAKE DISSIPATES..

There was no smoke to leave a vortex, and the planes mostly disintegrated INSIDE the building. Fireballs created by the fuel splashing against the structure would not have followed any vortex into the building since the building itself dissipated the turbulence and reflected it back into the air.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   13:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

IT'S CALLED A FAIL SAFE and if you had looked more into the procedures of Air Traffic Control then you would know this already.

Come on man you! You talk like you think you have done some 911 research but you can't even talk to me about typical air traffic control procedure? You just wanna spout about hijacker this everyone is in on it that... real sarcastic moon bat shit,

So you continue to insist that FAA radar is flawless and that there is ZERO possibility of losing an aircraft at all, even for the slightest moment, correct?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   13:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So let's see. You believe that all the news reporters, camera crews, bystanders, firemen, police, television networks (US and foreign), conspired to fabricate a tale of planes striking the towers. They produced footage fabricated in a studio, and they all played along with the lie in real time as events unfolded.

According to you, FAA controllers had positive identification and knew the whereabouts of the planes at all times, so they must have seen where the aircraft actually were, before and after the alleged impacts. So THEY must have been in on it too.

And they did this all without anyone leaking any part of the plot, and they all pulled it off flawlessly. And oh yeah, it was all directed by bin Laden and his merry crew of 19 (some of whom are still alive to this day), because they hate our "freedom", right?

OK I can no longer say you are incorrect.... Now you are just lying to be a jerk.

Seriously.

Putting words into other peoples mouths.. why... to laugh? to be sarcastic? to shoot them down? That is a form of lie. You are lying when you put words into other peoples mouths.

Making up shit for lols...

sheesh......

you know what fuck you.

If you wanna believe in fairy tails and magical super planes thats fine but you could do every one else the favour of avoiding paraphrasing because you don't know who to do it honestly.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   13:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So you continue to insist that FAA radar is flawless and that there is ZERO possibility of losing an aircraft at all, even for the slightest moment, correct?

Their is no hole in the east coast corridor (and none in the lower 48 that I am aware of) but if you wanna look stupid by saying anything to the contrary , please be my guest, I won't stop you from putting your foot in your mouth.

and one more FU for good measure.

See I can be emotional too,.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   13:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You seem to think the a bullet can go through anything... It can not... also the planes were flying at around 500 MPH........ significantly slower than your average bullet.

I didn't say a bullet can go through ANYTHING, I said a high powered rifle bullet CAN penetrate through steel. It depends on the thickness of the steel and its hardness.

As far as a 767, which weighs roughly 182,000 lbs empty, 395,000 lbs fully loaded, travelling at 500 mph, that's a LOT of kinetic energy. It's enough energy to pierce through a hybrid of aluminum, glass, concrete, and steel columns.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

From Secondary surveillance radar [Note: pay close attention to the section on Syncronous Garble]

[edit] Deficiencies

A number of problems are described in an ICAO publication of 1983 entitled Secondary Surveillance Radar Mode S Advisory Circular. ^[8]

[edit] Mode A

Mode A and C reply format

Although 4,096 different identity codes available in a mode A reply may seem enough, but once particular codes have been reserved for emergency and other purposes, the number is significantly reduced. Ideally an aircraft would keep the same code from take-off until landing even when crossing international boundaries, as it is used at the air traffic control centre to display the aircraft's callsign using a process known as code/callsign conversion. Clearly the same mode A code should not be given to two aircraft at the same time as the controller on the ground could be given the wrong callsign with which to communicate with the aircraft.^[6]

[edit] Mode C

The mode C reply provides height increments of 100 feet, which was initially adequate for monitoring aircraft separated by at least 1000 feet. However, as airspace became increasingly congested, it became important to monitor whether aircraft were not moving out of their assigned flight level. A slight change of a few feet could cross a threshold and be indicated as the next increment up and a change of 100 feet. Smaller increments were desirable.^{[citation needed]}

[edit] Fruit

Since all aircraft reply on the same frequency of 1090 MHz, a ground station will also receive aircraft replies originating from responses to other ground stations. These unwanted replies are known as FRUIT (False Replies Unsynchronized with Interrogator Transmissions or alternatively False Replies Unsynchronized In Time). Several successive fruit replies could combine and appear to indicate an aircraft which does not exists. As air transport expands and more aircraft occupy the airspace, the amount of fruit generated will also increase.^[8]

[edit] Garble

Fruit replies can overlap with wanted replies at a ground receiver, thus causing errors in extracting the included data. A solution is to increase the interrogation rate so as to receive more replies, in the hope that some would be clear of interference. The process is self defeating as increasing the reply rate only increases the interference to other users and vice versa.^[8]

[edit] Synchronous garble

If two aircraft paths cross within about two miles slant range from the ground interrogator, their replies will overlap and the interference caused will make their detection difficult. Typically the controller will lose the longer range, and later to reply, aircraft just when the former may be most interested in monitoring them closely.^[8]

[edit] Capture

While an aircraft is replying to one ground interrogation it is unable to respond to another interrogation, reducing detection efficiency. For a Mode A or C interrogation the transponder reply may take up to 120 µs before it can reply to a further interrogation.^[8]

[edit] Antenna

Original SSR antenna providing a narrow horizontal beam and a wide vertical beam

Regions of weak signal due to ground reflection

The ground antenna has a typical horizontal 3 dB beamwidth of 2.5° which limits the accuracy in determining the bearing of the aircraft. Accuracy can be improved by making many interrogations as the antenna beam scans an aircraft and a better estimate can be obtained by noting where the replies started and where stopped and taking the centre of the replies as the direction of the aircraft. This is known as a sliding window process.^[1]

The early system used an antenna known as a hogtrough. This has a large horizontal dimension to produce a narrow horizontal beam and a small vertical dimension to provide cover from close to the horizon to nearly overhead. There were two problems with this antenna. First, nearly half the energy is directed at the ground where it is reflected back up, and interferes with, the upward energy causing deep nulls at certain elevation angles and loss of contact with aircraft. Second, if the surrounding ground is sloping, then the reflected energy is partly offset horizontally, distorting the beam shape and the indicated bearing of the aircraft. This was particularly important in a monopulse system with its much improved bearing measurement accuracy.^[9]

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:02:44 ET  (6 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

OK I can no longer say you are incorrect.... Now you are just lying to be a jerk.

Making up shit for lols...

sheesh......

you know what fuck you.

So what is it, the news networks and eyewitnesses fabricated everything, or they didn't? Were there planes, or not?

And go fuck yourself too.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

From Limit ations of FAA radar...

Section 5.

 Surveillance Systems

4-5-1. Radar

a. Capabilities

1. Radar is a method whereby radio waves are transmitted into the air and are then received when they have been reflected by an object in the path of the beam. Range is determined by measuring the time it takes (at the speed of light) for the radio wave to go out to the object and then return to the receiving antenna. The direction of a detected object from a radar site is determined by the position of the rotating antenna when the reflected portion of the radio wave is received.

2. More reliable maintenance and improved equipment have reduced radar system failures to a negligible factor. Most facilities actually have some components duplicated, one operating and another which immediately takes over when a malfunction occurs to the primary component.

b. Limitations

1. It is very important for the aviation community to recognize the fact that there are limitations to radar service and that ATC controllers may not always be able to issue traffic advisories concerning aircraft which are not under ATC control and cannot be seen on radar. (See FIG 4-5-1.)

FIG 4-5-1 Limitations to Radar Service

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:07:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

FAA Radar, Transponders & the Plane Swaps

The following is to provide some basic background information on how the FAA radar system and aircraft transponders to better understand "Holes in the Radar".

http://www.the-movement.com/Radar/Radar.htm

How Radar Works

Radio waves are transmitted into the air, reflected by an object in the path of the beam and received by the radar antenna. The object can be a plane, rain, terrain (mountains, hills), tall buildings, etc. The range is determined by measuring the time it takes (at the speed of light) for the radio wave to go out to the object and then return to the receiving antenna. The direction of a detected object from a radar site is determined by the position of the rotating antenna when the reflected portion of the radio wave is received.

Reflected radio waves are shown on a radarscope as "blip". Its called a target.

FAA Radar System

The FAA has two basic types of surveillance radar systems:

1) Airport Surveillance Radar (ASR)

ASR provides relatively short- range radar coverage in the general vicinity of an airport for handling terminal area traffic. It can precisely determine aircraft locations on a radarscope. The ASR can also be used as an instrument approach aid. ASR is not important with regards to the flights on 9/11.

2) Air Route Surveillance Radar (ARSR)

ARSR is a long-range radar system designed primarily to provide a display of aircraft locations over large areas. It shows the range and angle from the radar of a target. It does not show the altitude. ARSR is also called primary radar.

Primary radar transmits a signal (radio waves) from the radar antenna and this signal is reflected or "bounced back" from an object (such as an aircraft). This reflected signal is then displayed as a "target" or a "blip" on the controller's radarscope.

ARSR is very important with regards to the flights on 9/11.

Air Traffic Control Radar Beacon System (ATCRBS)

Transponders are also called beacons.

ATCRBS (pronounced at-crabs) has three main components:

1) The Interrogator. In the ATCRBS, the interrogator, a radar beacon transmitter-receiver, scans in synchronism with the primary radar and transmits radio signals which request all transponders within range to reply. This is called secondary radar. The secondary radar antenna is a small radar that sits above the big primary radar antenna. The replies are then combined with the primary returns (the radarscope "blips") and both are displayed on the same radarscope.

For all commerical aircraft the blip is labeled with the transponder code (4 digits) and the altitude of the aircraft. Private planes may respond only with the transponder code.

2) The Transponder. This radar beacon transmitter-receiver is in the aircraft. It automatically receives the signals from the interrogator and replies with a code. These replies are independent of, and much stronger than a primary radar return (the "blip").

3) The Radarscope. The radarscope used by the controller displays returns from both the primary radar system and the ATCRBS. These returns, called targets, are what the controller refers to in the control and separation of traffic.

Important Note: Secondary radar has greater range than primary radar. This means that when an aircraft is beyond primary radar range it may be within secondary radar range -- producing no return (no "blip") on the radarscope -- but can receive transponder information.

Transponder Information

Commercial aircraft transponders have three modes used in the USA:

1) Mode A: The 4-digit code which identifies the flight. The FAA assigns the code for each flight. The pilot enters the code into the transponder before takeoff.

2) Mode C: Altitude information. The transponder receives altitude information from the aircraft's instruments. The altitude information is calculated automatically. Altitude data is important to maintain vertical seperation between aircraft. (Note: I was in an airliner that had a close call with another airliner which passed only 1000 feet directly underneath my plane at a right angle. One or both flights were off course. Thats why vertical seperation is important.)

3) Mode S: Other data. A variety of information can be transmitted to the FAA using this mode. More information on Mode S will be posted later.

Commercial aircraft always transmit Mode A and Mode C together -- providing the 4-digit flight code and altitude data.

How the Plane Swaps Were Made

When an aircraft is beyond primary radar range, the FAA air traffic controller (or military radar operator) cannot "see" the aircraft. There is no radar return. No "blip" on the radarscope. But, it may receive the transponder information. Turn off the transponder and the plane disappears. If the airplane is beyond secondary radar range also, the controller receives no transponder information. The plane disappears.

Three of the planes on 9/11 entered some of the very few areas in the northeast USA where there is no primary radar coverage. These two "holes in the radar" were the closest to the three takeoff airports (Newark, Boston Logan, Dulles).

It is unknown if secondary radar covered the "holes". However, if a transponder is turned off when a plane is in the "hole", the plane "disappears".

The three planes entered the "holes" and could not be "seen" by FAA radars. Then the transponders were turned off and the planes completely disappeared. Thats when the planes were swapped. Also, there were long radar holes that would allow the approach of the drones to effect the plane swaps.

Thats why Flight 11 from Boston (target: WTC 1), Flight 93 from Newark (target: unknown, crashed in Pennsylvania) and Flight 175 from Dulles (target: Pentagon) flew so far to the west -- they had to get into the radar holes for the plane swaps.

Flight 175 from Boston (target WTC 2) did not fly so far west into any of the radar holes. It changed transponder codes once, perhaps twice. It is not clear how the plane swap was made, except that it switched off its transponder very close to Flight 93 before 93 was "hijacked".

More to come ...

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As far as a 767, which weighs roughly 182,000 lbs empty, 395,000 lbs fully loaded, travelling at 500 mph, that's a LOT of kinetic energy. It's enough energy to pierce through a hybrid of aluminum, glass, concrete, and steel columns.

MY white ass!

It is a flying soda straw. Kinetic energy is all it has and that does not count for much at low speeds. A plane is not a gaus or coil gun.

A bullet is a small solid lump.

A plane is a big hollow lump.

A bullet can pierce through a plane.

A plane does not pierce through a building... it crashes into it.

Planes are fragile things..... I hear that a duck made a plane crash into the hudson river once. That plane must not of been doing 500 MPH yet eh?

How is it people like you can read much and yet still fail to understand....???

Sigh.... This is why they call it propaganda... YOu watched it from zero moment... wittnessed the plane flying in time after time and their fore their can be no other truth for you... you saw it on TV other people saw it on TV everyone saw the south tower crash over and over and over from the moment of OH MY GOD NO to three months later late night on the couch examining for details.... PROPAGANDA

You can not ... will not...should not look at the forensic evidence... the finer details, The chincs in the story.... Their are aspects missing of a REAL PLANE REALLY CRASHING at any of the sites... lots of staged shit though.... real evidence of conventional ordinance, real evidence of DEW utilization, real evidence of lots of dead people....

It is the propaganda that is helping to motivate your snark when you ask if I think the Towers are fake too or if I believe in the state of New York...

You can not further investigate the more troubling aspects of the event.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   14:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ah man..... now you are just spamming bullshit about radars.... I doubt you read a single word of any of it... Just copypasta because you wanna be a rude dumb ass.......Too busy knowing it all to contemplate anything outside the TV Box parameters..

Hope it's cozy in those confines.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   14:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

From Pentagon Crash Highlights a Radar Gap

The answers to the mystery of the aircraft's disappearance begin with the fact that the hijacking took place in an area served by only one type of radar, FAA officials confirmed.

Although this radar is called a "secondary" system, it is the type used almost exclusively today in air traffic control. It takes an aircraft's identification, destination, speed and altitude from the plane's transponder and displays it on a controller's radar screen.

"Primary" radar is an older system. It bounces a beam off an aircraft and tells a controller only that a plane is aloft -- but does not display its type or altitude. The two systems are usually mounted on the same tower.

Primary radar is normally used only as a backup, and is usually turned off by controllers handling aircraft at altitudes above 18,000 feet because it clutters their screens. All aircraft flying above 18,000 feet are required to have working transponders.

If a plane simply disappears from radar screens, most controllers can quickly switch on the primary system, which should display a small plus sign at the plane's location, even if the aircraft's transponder is not working.

But the radar installation near Parkersburg, W. Va., was built with only secondary radar -- called "beacon-only" radar. That left the controller monitoring Flight 77 at the Indianapolis center blind when the hijackers apparently switched off the aircraft's transponder, sources said.

The airspace controlled by each of the FAA's 20 "en route" centers is further divided into a number of sectors, with separate controllers handling each sector. Flight 77 was flying through a sector in the eastern portion of Indianapolis's airspace when it was hijacked.

Sources said the location of the hijacking is likely just a coincidence, although there is a remote possibility that the hijackers knew where to turn off the transponder.

There are a number of locations across the interior of the United States that operate solely with secondary radars. Until Sept. 11, it was the written policy of the FAA to begin turning off some older primary radars as they broke down or came due for expensive maintenance.

The more modern secondary radar was considered sufficient for high-altitude navigation as the FAA began switching to satellite-based navigation systems over the coming decades. FAA officials said no primary radars had been turned off yet, and the events of Sept. 11 have reversed the policy.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ah man..... now you are just spamming bullshit about radars.... I doubt you read a single word of any of it... Just copypasta because you wanna be a lazy rude dumb ass.......Too busy knowing it all to contemplate anything outside the TV Box parameters..

If you bothered reading any of it you'd know how full of shit you are.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What it comes down to tit, is that there most certainly WERE radar gaps in primary radar coverage in the Northeast US on 9/11/2001.

This video shows where those gaps were...

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm still not sure what exactly your beliefs are. Are you saying no planes actually took off from the reported airports, and that there weren't really any flights that were "hijacked" that morning?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Christ on a crutch STOP FUCKING SPAMMING you fucking jerk

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I give a few links that you wont click for shit insisting that I post more links... .. THEN YOU to be the biggest dick head in the universe gotta spam stink after stink about the radar and you know what?

Their is still no holes in the east coast corridor, no gaps, no un-monitered airspace,

IT IS THE BUSIEST AIR SPACE ON EARTH!

Also your copypasta is such bull... I LOVE how you cite the pentagon... as if they have credibility and no bias in the event of which that organisation was a part of and factor in...

Sheesh....Thats like a jew telling you that you can earn more money in his bank instead of your union. Whatever man....

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   14:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And here's a collection of impact videos of the South Tower. So all of this is fake in your eyes, right?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Christ on a crutch STOP FUCKING SPAMMING you fucking jerk

Ah, did I hit a nerve you stupid little shit? What's the matter, your Mossad friends are going to be displeased with you and you won't get your bonus this month?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What you demonstrate is that you have no concept of how air traffic control radar works, you don't know the difference between primary and secondary radar, and you deny there are limitations due to various technological deficiencies.

You also deny the well known fact that there were gaps in primary radar coverage in the areas where the hijacked aircraft turned off their transponders, and are more than likely totally ignorant of the fact SECONDARY radar will NOT "see" a plane if its transponder is turned off.

Posting evidence and facts to you is called "spamming". Other shills such as BeAChooser used to make the same sort of claim.

You spew obscenities when facts and evidence are posted which prove you are wrong.

I can see WHY you are a "no-planer". Facts, logic, and science mean nothing to you. Emotions and "beliefs" are all you require.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   14:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ah, did I hit a nerve you stupid little shit? What's the matter, your Mossad friends are going to be displeased with you and you won't get your bonus this month?

What strikes a nerve is a poster I thought to be educated swallowing and regurgitating propaganda...

And you know I am not stupid and you know that you are telling some fibs here...

The question to ask yourself is why?

What is it about this particular subject that motivates you to color your lines of honesty to less than honest?

Answer yourself that and you might free yourself of your current manipulations.

and you were spamming... Thank you for stopping... A link is all I needed.... a summary if you insist but copying page after page to post ad nausuem is obscene. Much more so than the word fuck.

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   14:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What strikes a nerve is a poster I thought to be educated swallowing and regurgitating propaganda...

So facts to you are propaganda? Do you know the difference between primary and secondary radar? Do you still deny that there were gaps in primary radar coverage back in September 2001?

And in regards to all of the impact videos, are you still claiming that news networks and eyewitnesses fabricated the events?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   15:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For anyone interested, here's a primary radar coverage map of the US. Note the gaps in the New England area, as well as West Virginia.

From Plane Swap Over Pennsylvania

Each radar station generates a wide conus where all airborne objects are detected. The diagram depicts a horizontal cut through all these conusses at 5000 ft. Everything being at 5000 ft outside the orange and purple areas is not visible on radar screens.

Southwestern Pennsylvania is covered by a radar station near Clearfield, 100 miles northeast of Pittsburgh. The area lies clearly inside the orange circle, therefore a plane has to be below 5000 ft to avoid radar detection there. Due to the conic shape of the space covered by a radar station, the closer a plane is to the station, the lower it has to fly to be undetected by radar. 4000 ft seems to be a sufficiently accurate estimation for UA 93 when it disappeared from radar southeast of Pittsburgh.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-12   15:26:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am claiming that you are being disingenuous, deceitful, manipulative, corrupt....

On this particular subject you are willing to lie, digress, strawman, transpose.....

Ask yourself why? Do not say "so what if I exaggerate this or that. I know I'm right" That is still a lie. Why are you willing to be less than 100% honest about this subject?

You have proven that you are not being a part of this conversation for the research but rather just to argue in a snotty shitty manner.

Is that you? A snotty and shitty debater resorting to the well known tactics of disinformation to claim your mental victory in your heart? I hope not.

Stop making stuff up. Stop putting words into other peoples mouths stop making assumptions from a position of ignorance.

And for fucks sake if you are not gonna read the material please do not post page after page about it.... (and a light gloss over does not count as reading it)

You have latched on hard to this radar thing and like I said the east coast has no gaps.... to be honest though I am not confident your sources given your previous shady choices of organisations you consider reputable... Your citations look like you are reaching for anything that can justify your position and online anyone of us can do that if we look long enough. Meanwhile you are transposing yourself onto me. I have enough facts. They are truth and I recognise them in that regard...you on the other hand lurker, are eating up lies and spouting them out with a passion...Their is no observable wake vortex and if you still don't understand that, it means that the wake of the plane should of trailed into the building swirling smoke and fire from the explosion....

That it did not... that it rose in a typical bloom...

Well we can call it a fact of the video.

First though you need to understand why the wake trail follows a plane to be able to understand what should of happened.

Like the cell phone thing. Everyones cell phone magically worked that day....

sigh....

Overcome the mental manipulation.

Instead of just being insulting, distracting, pointlessly argumentative,

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   16:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=814rcm4KC5w

When you watch this stuff

That second compilation video... You posted it... So you watched it right?

Should you watch it again I'd like to know how you ignore the different trajectories of impact, the different sizes of plane, The little helicopters that can fly through the smoke without fear and with out the rotor blades disturbing the smoke...

How do you watch it and ignore the discrepancies?

____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-09-12   16:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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