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Title: The Message From Both Parties Is That Americans Are Disposable
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URL Source: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32383.htm
Published: Sep 9, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-09-09 08:49:32 by tom007
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The Message From Both Parties Is That Americans Are Disposable By Paul Craig Roberts September 08, 2012 "Information Clearing House" - If political conventions are ranked on a one to ten scale for intelligence, I give the Republican Convention zero and the Democrats one. How can the United States be a superpower when both political parties are unaware of everything that is happening at home and abroad? The Republicans are relying for victory on four years of anti-Obama propaganda and their proprietary programed electronic voting machines. For nearly four years Republican operatives have flooded the Internet with portraits of Obama as a non-US citizen, as a Muslim (even while Obama was murdering Muslims in seven countries), and as a Marxist (put in power by the Israel Lobby, Wall Street, and the military/security complex). Most Republican voters will vote against Obama based on these charges despite the curious fact that no committee in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives held a hearing to determine if Obama is a citizen. If Obama were not a citizen, why would the very aggressive House Republicans not capitalize on it. It would be easy for a Congressional committee to determine if Obama were a citizen. Despite the propaganda, the Republicans in office have shown no interest in the propaganda charges spread by Republican operatives over the Internet. Either Republicans have no confidence in the charges and do not want to end up proving with Congressional hearings that Obama is a citizen, or the Republicans, having destroyed every other aspect of the US Constitution, reducing it to “a scrap of paper,” feel that making an issue of the last remaining Constitutional provision other than the Second Amendment would be the height of hypocrisy and don’t want to risk opening the constitutional issues that Republicans have run roughshod over. If the Republicans can destroy habeas corpus, due process, violate both US statutory and international law, ignore the separation of powers, and create a Caesar, why can’t the Democrats run a non-citizen? Why didn’t the Republican convention raise the issue about the Obama regime’s claim that the executive branch has the power to assassinate US citizens without due process of law? No such power exists in the US Constitution or in US statutory law. This gestapo police state claim exists only as an assertion. Republicans ignored this most important of all issues, because they support it. Why didn’t the Democrat convention raise the issue that the Republicans took us to wars based on 9/11 assertions without ever conducting an investigation of 9/11? No qualified high-rise architect, structural engineer, physicist, chemist, or national security expert believes a word of the US government’s 9/11 story. Neither do the first responders who were on the scene and witnessed and experienced the event. Many experts keep their opinions to themselves, because otherwise the federal grants to their universities are over and done with or their architectural and engineering businesses are boycotted by patriotic former clients. Regardless of these risks, there are 1,700 architects and engineers who have sent a petition to Congress that they do not believe one word of the official explanation and who demand a real investigation. Why did not either party raise the question of how can the US economy recover when corporations have offshored millions of US middle class jobs, both manufacturing jobs and professional service jobs. For at least a decade, the US economy has been able to create only lowly paid domestic non-tradable (not exportable) service jobs, such as waitresses, bartenders, and hospital orderlies. Both parties talk total nonsense about jobs. The Republicans say they can create jobs by not taxing the rich. The Democrats say they can create jobs by financing jobs programs. The Republicans say that the Democrats’ jobs programs simply take money from business investments and give it to those who patronize bars and the drug trade. The Democrats say that the low taxes of the Republicans just subsidize yachts, exotic cars, private aircraft, and $800,000 wrist watches for the one percent, most of which is produced abroad. Neither political party will admit that when US corporations offshore their production for US markets, Americans are removed from the incomes associated with the production of the goods and services that they consume. Offshoring is defended by both moronic political parties as “free trade.” In fact, offshoring is the gift of what was US GDP to China, India, and the other countries to which US corporations locate their production that they sell to Americans. US GDP goes down, the GDP of the countries who make the American goods sold to Americans goes up. The idiot free market economists call the de-industrializing of America “free trade.” As an intelligent economist--an oxymoron-- would know, destroying consumer incomes by moving their jobs to other countries, leaves consumers without incomes to purchase the imported offshored goods. Neither American political party recognizes this disconnect. Neither party can afford to recognize it, as both parties are dependent on corporate campaign financing, and offshoring boosts executive bonuses and share prices. A political party that opposes offshoring of US jobs simply does not get financed. So, the great “superpower,” the “indispensable nation,” the world hegemon, is going into an election, and no one knows what are the stakes. Why did not either political party ask: if Washington has demonized Iran, why did the 120 countries that comprise the non-aligned movement convene in Iran last week? Is Washington’s propaganda failing? Can Washington no longer convince the world that the countries that Washington wants to destroy are evil and must be destroyed? If Washington’s propaganda is failing, the world rule of the hegemonic power will not succeed. As world rule is Washington’s goal in keeping with the neoconservative ideology, then Washington is failing and is not the superpower it pretends to be. Most credible foreign policy experts, none of which either political party has, believe that Washington has thrown away US “soft power” by its obvious lies and unjustified military attacks on seven Muslim countries, its encirclement of Russia with missile bases, and its encirclement of China with air, naval, and troop bases. In other words, Washington’s moral force no longer exists. All that exists is financial and military force, and both will fail as they are insufficient. Neither party asked why the US is at wars with Muslims for Israel. Why should Americans be losing lives and limbs for Israel while going broke and running up enormous war debts for our children and grandchildren? The answer from both parties is to blame the country’s bankruptcy on what Washington does for its own economically disenfranchised citizens. America’s financial problems are all the fault of Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps, housing subsidies, Pell grants--any and every thing that gives a leg up to the non-one percent. In short, the attitude of both parties is: if you are not the one percent, you are disposable. Both Obamacare and the alternative Republican voucher program dispose of ill Americans who confront potentially terminal diseases. The American people and the ill no longer count; only the budget counts. Letting the elderly die sooner is cheaper. We can therefore afford more wars for hegemony and more tax cuts for the one percent. Have any peoples in human history ever been less represented by their government and political parties than Americans? The US government represents Israel and the one to ten percent. Everyone else is disposable. Regardless of the political party whose lever is pulled in November, every American who votes will be voting for Israel and for their own demise. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Scroll down to add / read comments
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#1. To: All (#0)
Stake thru the heart of both parties. Many experts keep their opinions to themselves, because otherwise the federal grants to their universities are over and done with or their architectural and engineering businesses are boycotted by patriotic former clients. Regardless of these risks, there are 1,700 architects and engineers who have sent a petition to Congress that they do not believe one word of the official explanation and who demand a real investigation. ping Why do you hate America so ? Roberts as usual has his ducks lined up, BUT it would be helpful if he were to also pay heed to history and POLITICAL REALITY, as available to the masses. There is an endless drumbeat of, "write your congressman and let them know your opinion". Is there anyone that honestly believes, the Congressman gives one good damn what Joe Plumber believes? Of course not. Does anyone honestly believe Congress gives one damn what 1700 "experts" believe????? Roberts should have expressed the governments OPINION of the masses. Experts be damned. The only exercise more futile than this is voting. The people in power KNOW THAT. They understand, they own and operate the system, no matter who wins, they win and we lose one more time. I am gonna hurry and write my Congress criminals TODAY. Let them know just how I feel. That ought to scare them???????
Yeh - there crapping in their pants just thinking about it. It is verbotten! to ask such things!! Indeed, it's a heresy on par with denying the holoco$t!!! Why didn’t the Republican convention raise the issue about the Obama regime’s claim that the executive branch has the power to assassinate US citizens without due process of law? No such power exists in the US Constitution or in US statutory law. This gestapo police state claim exists only as an assertion. Republicans ignored this most important of all issues, because they support it.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#2. To: All (#0)
Why didn’t the Democrat convention raise the issue that the Republicans took us to wars based on 9/11 assertions without ever conducting an investigation of 9/11? No qualified high-rise architect, structural engineer, physicist, chemist, or national security expert believes a word of the US government’s 9/11 story. Neither do the first responders who were on the scene and witnessed and experienced the event.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#3. To: All (#0)
Neither party asked why the US is at wars with Muslims for Israel. Why should Americans be losing lives and limbs for Israel while going broke and running up enormous war debts for our children and grandchildren? The answer from both parties is to blame the country’s bankruptcy on what Washington does for its own economically disenfranchised citizens. America’s financial problems are all the fault of Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps, housing subsidies, Pell grants--any and every thing that gives a leg up to the non-one percent.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#4. To: tom007, Phant2000, randge, Esso, Voting Rubes (#0)
Regardless of these risks, there are 1,700 architects and engineers who have sent a petition to Congress that they do not believe one word of the official explanation and who demand a real investigation.
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
That ought to scare them???????
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#6. To: tom007 (#0)
Neither party asked why the US is at wars with Muslims for Israel. Why should Americans be losing lives and limbs for Israel while going broke and running up enormous war debts for our children and grandchildren?
-Alex Kurtagic
#7. To: tom007 (#5)
Back when you were a pup. A staffer snitched on his Congress criminal, telling this tale. They had sent to the incinerator an estimated 150,000 "complaints" that had never been read. There was a lot of indignant huffing and puffing by the Criminal that heads would roll. Then they all sat down, had a round of drinks on the Criminal and quite a few guffaws at the tax payers expense. Yes Sir, they sure are worried about what I think and what all those experts think. They will have another round of drinks and high fives, a laff or two.
#8. To: X-15 (#6)
I believe Voltaire noticed that whom you are forbidden to criticize is who controls you. Arabs with boxcutters brought down three skyscrapers. We must believe this. It is verbotten! to ask such things!! Indeed, it's a heresy on par with denying the holoco$t!!!
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#9. To: Cynicom (#4)
what do you mean, Cyni? PCR writes that the politicians don't care one iota about the masses. POLITICAL REALITY, as available to the masses.
#10. To: christine (#9)
Roberts gives no indication that these "experts" honestly believe their effort will be of any value. One has to be realistic, the government could care less and if per chance this Pandoras box should be opened again, they will provide "experts" by the dozens to refute everything. Regardless of these risks, there are 1,700 architects and engineers who have sent a petition to Congress that they do not believe one word of the official explanation and who demand a real investigation.
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
yeah, to refute what we see right before our eyes. black is white. up is down. war is peace, etc etc...
#12. To: christine (#11)
Indeed... Family member is an architect, AIA, declined to become involved for two reasons. Bailing the ocean dry is known to be fruitless. Making a statement is fine, but there is NO SECOND STEP. Plus the government keeps endless "lists" of people in whom they have interest. yeah, to refute what we see right before our eyes. black is white. up is down. war is peace, etc etc...
#13. To: Cynicom, christine (#10) (Edited)
So, you are saying that govt can find physicists to refute known physical laws by which all real world endeavors are bound? Our scientist says that a 1 lb brick weighs the same as 1 lb of feathers. Now, play the Devil's advocate and tell me how a govt-friendly scientist would refute that. All textbooks seem to agree that the laws of physics are inflexible and may not be broken. Few "experts" who wish to retain credibility would attempt to help govt by disagreeing with that, and certainly not "by the dozens". And any college prof who perjures himself may be sued by all former students if he suddenly contradicts that which he or she taught those in former classes. And what would happen if those who taught him stand up and say, "He knows better than that"? And you seem to want to overlook the fact that "truth has a vibration of its own", and only the dumbest, agenda-driven state worshipers would pretend to be fooled by such obviously incorrect testimony. And that would only force the truth seekers to redouble their efforts even as the liars shrink hoping it will all go away.... While on the subject of agendas, aren't you the one who keeps saying, "Yeah, I agree that govt lied but why bother?" That's Bart Simpson's line, "Can't win don't try". I'd be interested to know who you look up to as heroes....(besides FDR of course) One has to be realistic, the government could care less and if per chance this Pandoras box should be opened again, they will provide "experts" by the dozens to refute everything.
#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)
Keep it impersonal and I will be glad to respond. So, you are saying
#15. To: Cynicom (#14)
How very slippery of you. The question was rhetorical and the meaning of the words you wrote are quite clear. The fact that you seized on my writing style to avoid being nailed down pretty well confirms it. Keep it impersonal and I will be glad to respond.
#16. To: HOUNDDAWG (#15)
Not at all. Some people do indeed have a problem engaging in civil discourse, a rather apparent shortcoming for some.
#17. To: Cynicom, christine (#16)
Some people do indeed have a problem engaging in civil discourse, a rather apparent shortcoming for some. So, you wish to set the tone and the rules for debate on this website? Where would you get such power? And why is it that you wish this discussion to be in the realm of vaguely hypothetical? Is it because you lack passion about it or the courage to take a position and then defend it? If you're going to crumble at the sight of the innocuous phrase, "So, you are saying that..." and attempt to change the subject like some shark lawyer defending a scumbag client (or, in this instance, yourself) then perhaps you should admit that you're in over your head and resign from the field of debate. Or, we can debate that entirely different subject at another place and time when you aren't using it for cover like a hermit crab trying out a discarded tuna can while in search of new digs. Those of us who have been brutalized for decades by political correctness or polite conversation have watched our country "slouch toward Armageddon", as its cowardly, rootless proponents secretly thrill at their progress. If you cannot be asked your views on a given subject, then how dare your lecture me on decorum you silly old, shrew schoolmarm. Now again I ask an intelligent question in response to your nearly meaningless assertion, "So, you are saying that govt can find physicists to refute known physical laws by which all real world endeavors are bound?" I'm sorry but, I'm not going to refrain from examining your sillyisms that (to you) pass for intelligent arguments in defense of your murky agenda. As I've told your silly self before, you are no more entitled to opinions that you cannot validate than you are entitled to merchandise that you cannot pay for". Now the last time I tried to nail you down you posted a whining, self pitying announcement about retiring from the thread as if some great wrong had been done you, and you received absolutely no support from others who seem to manage just fine without defensive linemen (or christine) to come to their aid. Just what is the source of your bloated sense of entitlement or disability, and where would you get the wild-eyed notion that I'm somehow bound to honor it? Not at all.
#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#17)
Hound... If you ever run short of...YOUS....let me know as I rarely use them and have lots to share? Lighten up, dont take people seriously, I rarely do as most are not worth the effort.
#19. To: Cynicom (#18)
Lighten up, dont take people seriously, I rarely do as most are not worth the effort. I'm oh so sorry but it was YOU who once again made a thread about this same subject about YOU. The last time (months back) ended with a most pathetic attempt to garner sympathy for YOU. And it's impossible to call attention to your shabby ploys without using the forbidden word. Continuing, your one-man debate wrecking crew writing style serves your interests and my writing style serves mine, especially when fingering unethical adversaries posing as helpless old folks. YOU can post as much silliness as you care to, but be prepared to validate it or admit the inability to do so. This is not the first time you've attempted to ricochet away from the debate by chastising me and ridiculing others. And I promise you I will deprive you of any satisfaction you get from your mean spirited efforts. If we adopt your rules this place will have no more intellectual value than a senior shuffleboard tournament on the Good Ship Medicare. And, since you've chosen to heave up a blanket insult I must tell you that you are quite likely the person who is least deserving of "effort" and yet you insist on demanding attention like a troublesome victim of geriatric dementia. "Lighten up", you write? Well, my writing style flows quite effortlessly from my fingers, and it only seems heavy to you because of your inability to respond to questions that require intellectual honesty. If you ever run short of...YOUS....let me know as I rarely use them and have lots to share?
#20. To: HOUNDDAWG, All (#19)
All that speech demanding another poster meet YOUR standards of speech, thought, etc? What is it about the homosapien that demands adherence to unstated standards for interaction on the internet? Too many seem to be attacking the right for another to have an opinion or view of history/events other than their own. What an uninteresting world that would make. More telling is the attitude that creates such assumption. Could it be we have allowed ourselves to be programmed en masse to find reasons NOT to get along with everyone else? Just my opinion and observation. Save your attacks on MY right to such and use that energy for something positive.
#21. To: Phant2000 (#20)
Don't you have some obligation to refrain from posting where you are clearly out of your depth? Is the truth any less true simply because you don't want to read it? Either validate your opinions or let the grownups talk and find some place where you can exchange childish thoughts on your level. If this was a live debate in the meat world you wouldn't dare interrupt, so what is it about the anonymity of the internet that you believe is so empowering? I mean, does any demented dwarf sitting on a stack of phone books and posting on an unsupervised computer have some right to feign intelligence in one post, and childishly heckle in the next? The threads have their own standards dictated by serious posters in the quest for truth, but unfortunately, you ignore that while defending the "right"(?) to derail intelligent debate with gibberish, ass licking, heckling, disruption of the discussion and anything other than serious contributions to the discussions. Anyone who heckles those who have the clear and present ability to expose the truth about the murder of nearly three thousand of our fellow human beings on 9/11 with "flying telephone poles" and, "I think I'll find my own experts" to support such insulting, heartless and so very obviously written by a cruel child (or someone in their second childhood) nonsense deserves to be ostracized, as do those who ass lick their way into the discussion. Now, as you know (and despite your attempt to feign non existent infringement or wounds, just like some crippled little birdy, "ooh ooh, look at meee, I have a broken wingggg....") you and your boyfriend may post whatever you wish, but if you get put in short pants then don't whimper. There's only so much protection that your anonymity can provide, and it quite obviously won't insulate either of your childish egos. Just my opinion and observation. Save your attacks on MY right to such and use that energy for something positive.
#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21) (Edited)
Perhaps you should answer your own question, i.e., "So, you wish to set the tone and the rules for debate on this website? Where would you get such power?" By the way, I am impressed that my out of depth remark would garner such time-consuming evaluation. Don't you have some obligation to refrain from posting where you are clearly out of your depth?
#23. To: Phant2000 (#22)
Readers can easily ascertain when a poster is a lightweight. Such posters believe that voluminous huffing and puffing will carry any debate and that with a good measure of venom added, everyone will be impressed. Short, to the point, honest with a stiletto, not a broad axe is what everyone likes.
#24. To: Cynicom (#23)
Exactly. However, I am beginning to realize there are those with little to do in their lives and use forums to while away their days. It makes them feel important to declare their own worth and superior intellect to others not able to see who is behind the monitor, using the keyboard to spew such nonsense. Too bad when there is so much to learn in our short trip through life. To each his own, dear friend, to each his own. Short, to the point, honest with a stiletto, not a broad axe is what everyone likes.
#25. To: Phant2000 (#24)
I am reading, "The Secret World Government", authored by Spiridovich, in 1925. It was brought to my attention by a friend, paid for by my daughter, shipped to me from merry olde England. It is written ABOUT JEWS, not against JEWS. They, however never like to have a light upon them. This short passage to set the tone... "Frederic II,hearing from Baron von Estorff about the ability and the unscrupulousness of Amschel, became interested in procuring a " cursed soul" a "man of straw", for all his doubtful operations." Of course there will be volunteers here to give you an accurate synopsis of the book to save you reading. there is so much to learn
#26. To: Cynicom (#25)
I'll pass on that exercise, preferring to read and interpret for myself. Of course there will be volunteers here to give you an accurate synopsis of the book to save you reading.
#27. To: Phant2000 (#26)
The book is found in all skools, colleges, and upper class homes. I'll pass on that exercise, preferring to read and interpret for myself.
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