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Title: “Libya Surprise” Could Be Death Knell for Romney Campaign
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Published: Sep 13, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-09-13 13:36:07 by tom007
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“Libya Surprise” Could Be Death Knell for Romney Campaign Posted by John Cassidy

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Harold Wilson, who was Prime Minister of Britain twice, in the sixties and seventies, famously said a week is a long time in politics. Sometimes, so is a day. This time yesterday, the conventional wisdom, faithfully trotted out by yours truly among many, was that Obama was coasting to victory in a Presidential sweepstakes that was threatening to peter out in tedium.

So much for that. After last night’s “September surprise,” Obama is still home free, and Mitt Romney is still trailing. In fact, this might well be the death knell for his campaign. But what an uproar.

Romney’s attempt to exploit the violent anti-U.S. demonstrations in Egypt and Libya to portray Obama as soft on America’s enemies backfired almost immediately, when it became clear the statement from the U.S. Embassy in Cairo he had cited was issued before the demonstrations began. Overnight, the tragic news came that Chris Stevens, the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, and three other U.S. officials were killed while trying to flee the besieged U.S. consulate in Benghazi. But still the Mittster didn’t quit seeking to gain political advantage. Speaking in Florida this morning, he repeated the charge that the Obama Administration was failing to stand up for things Americans hold dear, such as freedom of speech. The White House was “standing in apology for our values” and following a “terrible course,” Romney said.

The reaction to Romney’s desperate gambit has been almost universally negative. About the only people who are sticking up for him today are Jim DeMint, the Tea Party senator from South Carolina, and Bill Kristol, the editor of the Weekly Standard. Even Romney’s running mate, Paul Ryan, failed to echo his line of attack. Speaking in Wisconsin, Ryan described the killings in Libya as “pretty disturbing,” but he didn’t criticize Obama, and he said it was “a time for healing.”

There will be plenty of time to discuss the rights and wrongs. But before getting into all that, I thought it might be worth setting down how the past twenty-four hours unfolded. With events taking place in three countries, on two continents, there has been a lot of confusion about who said what when. Here’s a quick timeline I put together from the Web. As far as I can see, Romney doesn’t come out of it looking any better. But it does indicate that his attacks initially caused some concern in the White House—enough concern for the Administration to try and distance itself from its loyal servants in Cairo.

Ironically, it all began with a temporary truce between the campaigns to mark the anniversary of 9/11. But yesterday afternoon, demonstrators surrounded the U.S. embassies in Cairo and Benghazi to protest an anti-Islam film, a lengthy trailer for which can be seen on You Tube, that reportedly depicts the prophet Mohammad as a womanizer, a child molester, and an imposter. Initially, the focus was on Egypt. Around noon local time, before the protests against the video began but following threats of violence, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo posted this statement online:

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.

Embassy staffers also issued a number of tweets that made similar points. Some of these messages were subsequently deleted, but not before a number of Republicans and conservative journalists here in the United States were alerted. One of the tweets said, “We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.” Another said, “Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy.” (A report from CBC, the Canadian news organization, reproduces some of the tweets.)

As the day and evening wore on, a couple of thousand demonstrators gathered outside the Cairo embassy. According to a Reuters report from the scene, most of them were youthful supporters of Islamic groups or “ultras,” the soccer fans who played a big role in bringing down Hosni Mubarak. Some of the demonstrators tried to scale the walls of the fortress-liked compound. Eventually, they succeeded, seizing a U.S. flag and setting it alight before the television cameras. Reuters reports that there were about twenty people atop the embassy wall, and they tried to raise their own black flag, emblazoned with the words: “There is no god but God, and Mohammad is his messenger.”

In Benghazi, a city in eastern Libya, meanwhile, a similar protest was taking place, and it, too, was turning violent. Militia men armed with grenades raided the U.S. consulate and set it on fire. Initially, Libyan officials said that one embassy worker had been killed. “The other staff members were evacuated and are safe and sound,” Libya’s deputy interior minister Wanis al-Sharif told AFP news agency. A news story from the BBC posted at about 9 P.M. E.T. said that the identity of the dead U.S. official wasn’t yet known, but he had reportedly been shot.

In response to the killing, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issued a statement on Tuesday night that said,

I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today. As we work to secure our personnel and facilities, we have confirmed that one of our State Department officers was killed. We are heartbroken by this terrible loss. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and those who have suffered in this attack.

The statement went on to mention the anti-Islam video that had sparked the demonstrations:

Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.

While all this was happening, conservative bloggers and Republicans were seizing upon the statements from the Cairo embassy as an opportunity to criticize the Obama Administration for showing weakness in the face of attacks. Some of them were confusing the timing of the statements, mistakenly suggesting they were put out after the demonstrations and incursions had begun. Evidently fearful that it was was politically vulnerable, the Obama Administration moved to distance itself—a pretty disreputable move, given what its diplomats had just gone through. “The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government,” an Administration official told Byron Tau, a reporter for Politico, who promptly posted a story headlined, “Obama administration disavows Cairo apology.” (The embassy statement was not actually an apology, but that had been lost, too.)

That wasn’t enough for the Romney campaign. It had prepared a statement that was embargoed until midnight, thereby keeping to the 9/11 truce. But as things hotted up it decided to move early. At 10:09 P.M., according to an informative backgrounder at Buzzfeed, Andrea Saul, a Romney spokeswoman, e-mailed reporters with a ready-to-use statement from Romney that said,

I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.

Once Romney’s inflammatory statement hit the Internet, a frenzy ensued on Twitter and the political Web sites, with reporters parsing the various statements and speculating about the deleted embassy tweets. By midnight, several other G.O.P. heavies had criticized the Administration, including Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee. “Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic,” Priebus tweeted. And Sarah Palin also weighed in. In a lengthy post on her Facebook page, she said: “Apparently, President Obama can’t see Egypt and Libya from his house…. We already know that President Obama likes to ‘speak softly’ to our enemies. If he doesn’t have a ‘big stick’ to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.”

The Obama campaign pushed back. Just after midnight, Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, sent an e-mail to reporters that said, “We are shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack.”

That was about it for Tuesday night. This morning came the news that four U.S. officials in Benghazi, not one, had been killed while attempting to flee the besieged consulate, and that Ambassador Stevens was among them. But this news didn’t persuade Romney to change his tone—far from it. Appearing at a hastily arranged press conference in Jacksonville, he reiterated his earlier criticisms, saying,

The president takes responsibility not just for the words that come from his mouth, but also for the words that come from his ambassadors, from his Administration, from his embassies, from his State Department. They clearly sent mixed messages to the world. The statement that came from the Administration—and the embassy is the Administration—the statement that came from the Administration was a statement which is akin to apology. And I think was a severe miscalculation.

Other Republicans struck a more conciliatory note. On Capitol Hill, John Boehner, the Speaker of the House, ordered flags to be lowered to half-mast. Reince Preibus tweeted, “Our prayers are w/Ambassador Stevens’ family and the families of those killed in the attacks in Libya. We mourn their loss and grieve w/them.”

Shortly after ten-thirty this morning, President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton appeared together in the White House Rose Garden. The President paid tribute to Stevens and his dead colleagues, and he vowed to exact justice on the perpetrators. He also referenced the video that started it all, saying,

We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification for this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

The “severe miscalculation” may have been Romney’s.

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#1. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

Romney attempted to exploit the Libya crisis by slamming Obama before all the facts were known. And it turns out that Romney was wrong, wrong, wrong.

Worse, Romney's statement, widely available overseas thru the media and internet, essentially told would-be troublemakers "Obama groveled to the Libyan terrorists and if you follow their example Obama will probably grovel to you." Very very ill-advised all around.

Romney has been criticized for not having a foreign policy, but if it consists of shooting his mouth off while he's still in the dark, I really don't want to know more about it.

IF some foreign countries think of Obama as someone reasonably friendly to Islam, then we may be better off, in terms of good diplomatic relations, than if our govt were headed by a former Mormon missionary.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-09-13   14:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Shoonra (#1)

There's lots of groveling going on all around. The Mormon has been groveling to Tel Aviv hammer and tongs, and he's still at it assiduously. It's relatively easy for him because he's just a candidate and he can treat it like a hobby. Obama on the other hand has been groveling continuously for four years as part of his job supplying SLS with all their needs and wants in terms of dough and hardware and rhetoric. He is just plumb worn out. I wonder if O'Romney will last as long should he get the job. I wonder how long it will take for him to tell Bibi to stuff it. ; )

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-09-13   15:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#0)

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.

Nice to hear the building speaking in such manly terms.

Does anyone know the name of this satanic video?

I haven't seen it.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-13   16:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#3)

Does anyone know the name of this satanic video?

"The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," the film claims Muhammad was a fraud. An English- language 13-minute trailer on YouTube shows an amateur cast performing a wooden dialogue of insults disguised as revelations about Muhammad, whose obedient followers are presented as a cadre of goons.

"It depicts Muhammad as a feckless philanderer who approved of child sexual abuse, among other overtly insulting claims that have caused outrage.

The film is obscene and portrays Mohammed as a bastard who performs lewd acts. It portrays atrocities by Muslims against Christians which the Muslim authorities condone and blame on Christians. This is ironic since Zionists are inciting attacks against Americans and blaming Muslims.

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Esso  posted on  2012-09-13   16:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Esso (#4)

Thanks.

Your re-cap sounds good enough here.

(They hate us for our lame film-makers [stick to your Thousand Oaks porn])

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-13   16:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007, All (#0)

Actually, this is the same BS as the USS Cole "incident" under Bill Clinton, who expressly prohibited U.S. warships from repelling potential boarders/bombers with deadly force. He also swore to "get revenge on the dastardly perps", same BS as Jimmuh Cawtuh and his Iranian embassy fiasco that cost him the 1980 election. This is the death knell for Obama, the end result of four years of incompetence and dawdling while he plays golf and his nigger-wife takes lavish trips on the taxpayers-dime just like the typical Afreakin! dictator is fond of doing.

REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.”

freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live- ammo/">http://freebeacon.com/reports-ma...-not-permitted-live-ammo/

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X-15  posted on  2012-09-13   17:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tom007, All (#0) (Edited)

Video: NBC chief foreign correspondent blasts Obama’s “Egypt not an ally” statement

Barack Obama’s assertion that he doesn’t consider Egypt an ally stunned NBC’s chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel. Engel, reporting from Cairo, tells Chuck Todd that he needed to “sit down” after hearing that statement. Engel reminds Todd that the US had two major Arab allies in the region when Obama took office, on which it spent a significant amount of foreign aid to keep it that way — Egypt and Saudi Arabia. If we’ve lost Egypt as an ally, Engel asks, wasn’t supporting the effort to overthrow Hosni Mubarak a huge mistake?

Here’s a partial transcript:

TODD: I just want to get your first reaction, before you give me a report, of the President saying Egypt was not an ally or an enemy.

ENGEL: Yeah, I almost had to sit down when I heard that. For the last forty years, the United States has had two main allies in the Middle East — Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the other ally in the Middle East being Israel. For the President to come out and say, well, he’s not exactly sure if Egypt is an ally any more but it’s not an enemy, that is a significant change in the perspective of Washington toward this country, the biggest country in the Arab world. It makes one wonder, well, was it worth it? Was it worth supporting the Arab Spring, supporting the demonstrations here in Tahrir Square, when now in Tahrir Square there are clashes going on behind me right in front of the US embassy?

You can see now teargas coming — teargas being fired into a crowd of demonstrators who are trying to get close to the embassy, which is at the end of the street, and throw rocks at the US embassy. A very different scene here, a very different Egypt before, when the United States — President Obama — was supporting the demonstrators, President Mubarak was in power, and Egypt was very much an ally. The President doesn’t seem to be sure if Egypt is an ally any more, and some demonstrators who the Arab Spring helped give a voice to are trying to attack the US embassy.

Who lost Egypt? Barack Obama. His administration waited eight whole days when those demonstrations erupted to demand Mubarak’s ouster, and then insisted on immediate elections — even though the only opposition organized well enough at that point in time for elections was the radical Muslim Brotherhood. In both Egypt and even more in Libya — where Obama applied military force to dislodge and topple Moammar Qaddafi — the White House left power vacuums that allowed the most radical elements to seize control. Critics of Obama’s policies in both regards warned of this very outcome eighteen months ago, to no avail.

It looks like the media may have finally decided that Mitt Romney’s criticism of an embassy statement that even the Obama administration ended up disavowing isn’t the biggest issue at stake here. We’re watching the collapse of decades of diplomacy and the Pax Americana within a few short weeks. Engel’s not the only one who has to sit down over the stunning declaration that we’ve lost Egypt as an ally.

Addendum: Here’s a good question: What lesson has Obama taught our other major Arab ally, Saudi Arabia, over the last two years?

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/13/video-nbc-chief-foreign-correspondent- blasts-obamas-egypt-not-an-ally-statement/

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X-15  posted on  2012-09-13   17:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: X-15 (#6)

This is the death knell for Obama, the end result of four years of incompetence and dawdling while he plays golf and his nigger-wife takes lavish trips on the taxpayers-dime just like the typical Afreakin! dictator is fond of doing.

Yep. The author can hallucinate all he wants but Romney will be President.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-09-13   18:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#2)

He is just plumb worn out. I wonder if O'Romney will last as long should he get the job. I wonder how long it will take for him to tell Bibi to stuff it. ; )

On one level I'm thrilled to see a sitting POTUS tell Likud to stuff it, yet it bothers me same POTUS regards moi with even less esteem.

This is the stuff (bad) dreams are made of.

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Dakmar  posted on  2012-09-13   20:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Shoonra (#1)

Romney has been criticized for not having a foreign policy, but if it consists of shooting his mouth off while he's still in the dark,

R has been taught from childhood he was a Saint, a Mormon, one of the Chosen and all the rest of humanity are Gentiles - beings to be exploited by the Saints, or Chosen Ones.

As such lying to the Gentiles is perfectly acceptable because according to the Word of G d all material possessions of the universe have been given to the Saints or Chosen Ones - even the property of Gentiles and it is OK to cheat them out of your property - as given to you by G d- because G d wants you to have it and he must be obeyed by the servants of G d that is the Saints or the Chosen Ones.

It is not surprising that Joseph Smith hired a rabbi for a year and a half to assist him in fabricating his yarns, is it?

Get my drift?

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tom007  posted on  2012-09-13   20:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso, Jethro Tull (#4)

This is ironic since Zionists are inciting attacks against Americans and blaming Muslims.

JT had a perfect pic for this concept a few weeks ago.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-13   20:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#7)

Barack Obama’s assertion that he doesn’t consider Egypt an ally stunned NBC’s chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel.

Stunned FP watchers across the globe.

Seems to me to be a way of saying to E that you better watch out what you do v Israel.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-13   20:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12)

This was not an off the cuff remark - it was a signal and Presidents don't usually send fake signals - that's what diplomats are for.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-13   20:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dakmar (#9)

This is the stuff (bad) dreams are made of.

Yep that's where we're at.

Even the good options are crap.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-13   20:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Turtle (#8)

The author can hallucinate all he wants but Romney will be President.

what makes you think so? i think the PTB will keep obama in place.

christine  posted on  2012-09-13   20:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tom007 (#14)

I'm having trouble understanding the charge that Romney has no foreign policy. That's ridiculous, Likud told Romney what his FP was months ago.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-09-13   21:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Dakmar (#16)

Yes for real - I remember him saying that.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-14   20:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tom007 (#17)

Frankly I don't recall any exact quote, it was his selection of campaign staff that made clear to me his intent.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-09-14   20:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#18)

D wish I could source it but he was quoted as saying to APAIC people that his presidency would let Israel call the shots on the US's foreign policy in the ME.

Dwell on that for a moment.

This would turn the US's military into a servant of an often hostile foreign nation with many interests inimical to the interests of the citizens of the US.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-14   20:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tom007 (#19) (Edited)

D wish I could source it but he was quoted as saying to APAIC people that his presidency would let Israel call the shots on the US's foreign policy in the ME.

That's a matter of public record, I was just distancing myself (and you my friends) from my claim that Likud had officially dictated Romney's foreign policy. It doesn't stand up to the sort of legal scrutiny demanded by MSM, while bullshit seems to get a free pass. We can't beat them at their own game, but we can beat on them in ours, eh?

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-09-14   20:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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