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War, War, War See other War, War, War Articles Title: Military: Afghan inside attack kills 4 US troops KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — An Afghan police officer turned his gun on NATO troops at a remote checkpoint in the south of the country before dawn Sunday, killing four American troops, according to Afghan and international officials. It was the third attack by Afghan forces or insurgents disguised in military uniforms against international forces in as many days, killing eight troops in all. Recent months have seen a string of such insider attacks by Afghan forces against their international counterparts. The killings have imperiled the military partnership between Kabul and NATO, a working relationship that is key to the handover of security responsibilities to Afghan forces as international troops draw down. Meanwhile, according to Afghan officials, airstrikes by NATO planes killed eight women and girls in another remote part of the country, fueling a long-standing grievance against a tactic used by international forces that Afghans say causes excessive civilian casualties. The International Security Assistance Force, as the U.S.-led coalition is known, acknowledged that civilians had been killed and expressed its regret over the airstrike. It insisted known insurgents had been the target. "ISAF takes full responsibility for this tragedy," a statement said. Villagers from a remote part of Laghman province's Alingar district drove the bodies to the provincial capital, claiming they were killed by NATO aircraft while they were out gathering firewood before dawn. "They were shouting 'Death to America!' They were condemning the attack," said Laghman provincial government spokesman Sarhadi Zewak. Four bodies, covered in blankets, were seen by an Associated Press journalist at the governor's office in the provincial capital, Mehterlam. Seven injured females were also brought to area hospitals for treatment, some of them as young as 10 years old, said provincial health director Latif Qayumi. NATO forces said that the strike killed a large number of insurgents — as many as 45 — but may have also killed civilians. There may have been five to eight Afghan civilians killed in the strike, said Capt. Dan Einert, a spokesman for international forces in Afghanistan. He said they were still investigating the report. "Protecting Afghan lives is the cornerstone of our mission and it saddens us when we learn that our action might have unintentionally harmed civilians," said Jamie Graybeal, another spokesman for the international military in Afghanistan. Afghan President Hamid Karzai "strongly condemns the airstrike by NATO forces which resulted in the deaths of eight women," a statement from his office said. It said the Afghan government was also investigating. The recent violence also comes amid an international uproar about an Internet video mocking the Prophet Muhammad that many fear could further aggravate Afghan-U.S. relations. The video has sparked protests throughout the Muslim world and the Afghan government blocked the YouTube site that hosts the video and its parent company, Google Inc., over the weekend in a move to prevent violent protests. So far, protests in Afghanistan have remained peaceful. Details of Sunday's attack on the U.S. troops were slow to come out because it took place in a remote area, said Graybeal, the NATO forces spokesman. "The attack took place in the vicinity of an outpost in southern Afghanistan. It is my understanding that it was a checkpoint," Graybeal said. International forces often work with Afghan police to man checkpoints as part of the effort to train and mentor the Afghan forces so that they can eventually operate on their own. The goal is to turn over all security responsibility for the country to the Afghans by the end of 2014, though numbers of NATO forces have already been reduced in many areas. Graybeal said one police officer was killed in the clash with NATO troops but that the other officers at the site fled and it was unclear if they were involved in the attack or not. Two international troops were wounded and were receiving treatment, Graybeal said. He did not say how serious the injuries were. Afghan officials said the checkpoint in Zabul province's Mizan district came under attack first from insurgents sometime around midnight. American forces came to help the Afghan police respond to the attack, said Ghulam Gilani, the deputy police chief of the province. It was not clear if some of the Afghan police turned on their American helpers in the middle of the battle with the insurgents, or afterward, or were somehow forced into attacking the American troops by the insurgents, Gilani said. "The checkpoint was attacked last night. Then the police started fighting with the Americans. Whether they attacked the Americans willingly we don't know," Gilani said. He said all four of the dead were American. A U.S. official speaking on anonymity because the information had not been officially released confirmed that the four killed were American. Taliban spokesman Qari Yousef Ahmadi said the police who attacked were not affiliated with the Taliban insurgency. "But they are Afghans and they know that Americans are our enemy," Ahmadi told The Associated Press. In an emailed statement, he said the police who fled have joined up with the insurgency. The coalition said in a statement that they were investigating what happened. So far this year, 51 international service members have died at the hands of Afghan soldiers or policemen or insurgents wearing their uniforms. At least 12 such attacks came in August alone, leaving 15 dead. On Saturday, a gunman in the uniform of a government-backed militia force shot dead two British soldiers in Helmand district in the southwest. Britain's defense minister said the two soldiers, from 3rd Battalion the Yorkshire Regiment, were killed at a checkpoint shooting in Nahri Sarraj district of Helmand province in southern Afghanistan, where the Taliban have their strongest roots. NATO said earlier that the gunman was wearing a uniform used by the Afghan Local Police, a village-level fighting force overseen by the central government. That strike came a day after insurgents wearing U.S. Army uniforms attacked a military base, killing two American Marines, wounding nine other people and destroying six Harrier fighter jets, military officials said. Fourteen insurgents were killed. The Taliban claimed responsibility for that attack and said that it was revenge for the video insulting Prophet Muhammad. In the capital on Sunday, several hundred university students chanted "Death to America!" and "Long life to Islam!" over several hours to protest the video. Riot police cordoned off the area and the protest ended without incident in the early afternoon. A smaller protest went forward in the western city of Herat. Poster Comment: I wonder when these "grunts for Izzy" will get a clue and stop training up the 9th century sand monkeys who are fighting for their independence? Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 4.
#1. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#0)
This is the Muslim tolerance test. If a Muslim can tolerate watching this video without wanting to stone me to death afterwards, then they are not a fundamentalists. I edited this little video to make fun of religion. Anyone is welcome to download this video and use it for whatever they want. Please feel free to send this video to anyone.
Yeah well, that don't disturb me a bit. I've lived in an Islamic country for quite a long time and studied its religion a bit. It took a couple of hundred years for their holy book to be constituted in its current form, though some Muslims believe that it is the only uncreated thing in the material world, having existed in the mind of God since the beginning of time. I of course don't put that kind of construction on it, and I believe that some scholars may be right who roundly criticize the Koran as a historical document and who further have cast doubt on the biography of the prophet contained therein, although it seems that there are corroborating documents that show that he actually existed as a historical personage. I do get disturbed, as crappy a Christian as I am, to see an "artist" drop a crucifix bearing the suffering body of Jesus into a jar of urine and photograph the image as a work of "art." Although the "artist" has the right to do this, there's something in me that says that this just ain't right. Like it or not, this is the way that Muslims see what is currently being done with depictions and portrayals of Muhammad. Some of them need to grow up and stop killing other folks over such provocations which have nothing to do with them. Nevertheless, what we are dealing with are the raw nerves of unreasoning beings. They are impervious to "free speech" arguments, and come from an entirely different frame of reference than you and I do. But I would say this. You can poke a bear with a sharp stick, but make sure that you're not inside the cage with him when you do so. He doesn't understand that you're just joking around, and don't be surprized if he tries to take a chunk out of your ass.
I kinda liked the part where a husband SHOULD beat his wife now and then. The Judge disagreed so I gave up the whole thing.
The Judge disagreed so I gave up the whole thing. Yeah, I know a guy who had a Saudi friend who was comparatively liberal, but who felt that he was constrained to follow what the beards had to say on this subject. They got different kinds of judges over there than we do here. This Saudi dearly loved his wife, but thought he had to follow some ruling or other that he had to give his wife a beating at least once a year, so on an annual basis he gives his better half a symbolic tap on the cheek to which she submits without complaint. This act seems to satisfy the teachings of the Sunni school of thought that he comes from. You get into all kinds of nutty stuff when religion becomes the law.
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