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Title: Let US start a thread on "WHO" Did 911
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Published: Sep 17, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-09-17 08:17:29 by Itistoolate
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#48. To: FormerLurker (#39)
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You claimed "dozens of people" saw the plane fly into the Pentagon, and they saw the terrified looks on the passengers' faces. So a whole whopping ONE witness said that. I think there could be a chance, don't you think, that HE is lying? I'm sure the witnesses saw some type of aircraft. But NOT so close to them that they could see the passenger's faces. You're a mental case. All those people saw the plane fly into the Pentagon, and all can do is point-and-sputter, LIAR! LIAR! LIAR! Just as I predicted. BTW,9-11 was done by Arabs seeking revenge on the U.S. for 60 years of humiliation. There were no remote-controlled airplanes or explosives in the buildings, and I will give you and anyone else 10,000 years to prove otherwise. I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
So Turtle, do you seriously claim that a flight school washout could fly a 757 at over 500 mph with the wings several feet over the Pentagon lawn, without scraping the lawn one bit, and flying with the nose level into the Pentagon ground floor (oddly enough where the records of that missing 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS went where located)? Do you honestly believe that 19 arabs, some of whom are still alive, could engineer a coordinated plot in sync with US wargames that morning to baffle NORAD and everyone else as to what was going on and where they were? Can you say with a straight face that those WTC towers "fell" into their own footprint at (WTC7) or near (WTC1&2) free fall speed without the use of controlled demolition? Are you claiming that those arabs made those Israelis drive a van filled with "tons" of explosives onto the George Washington Bridge onramp, or that they made those Israelis blow up a van on King Street, NYC, the morning of 9/11/2001? As far as your ONE witness who claims to have "seen the faces of the terrified passengers" on Flight 77 approaching the Pentagon, I'd say he's about as full of it as you are. Look all the jews say the Arabs did it, so go chop wood and fetch water for the chosen ones and shut up already. That is the MSM 's view of things. See, they are the Chosen Ones, so get off the net you lazy goy and start chopping wood for your masters. They don't have much patience for you animals, so get with it and become part of G d's plan. Or are you with the deamon?? I have a very difficult time with people on the ground seeing faces of people in a jet liner with 18 inch windows in a plane going fast. It really seems like utter HFCS ( High Fructose Corn Syrup)for the gullible masses. Yes and with Eric Holder as AG of the US it will take about that long. there you have it folks, straight from a pug lover. so I reckon the issue is settled. maybe you can get one of your pugs to slip into the vault where all the surveillance camera footage is stashed, snag the film and give us a look-see at the moving pictures of a plane hitting the pentagon. You are right. "Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
Thing is, what is happening NOW is a direct result of the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the attack on the USS Liberty, the Gulf War, Waco, OKC, 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc., etc., etc.. Out of all of those, 9/11 is the event with the MOST evidence of high level treason that affects us directly, yet there is ample evidence in all of the above listed events to prove government wrong doing, while at the same time it lies about what truly went on. If you care to think logically, there are plenty of really good reasons why we SHOULD look into the facts, pass the word around, and make it known what IS known. It is only by doing so ENOUGH people will say ENOUGH. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Ahmadinejad was right. The U.S. (and Israel) were behind the events of 9-11. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
But, will they get mad enouogh to do something about it? ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Remote control could not ensure that a plane (civilian, military, or drone) wouldn't break apart outside of the buildings on impact (endangering people on the street, leaving contradictory evidence behind, and messing up the cover story for the destruction of the Towers) but CGI could. Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC Interesting info there on "virtual" news and False Images In Broadcasts; also in the Comments section on PVI L-VIS computer imagery. Another recommended article (and the discussions too in the Comments section): 'Real-World or Exercise': Did the U.S. Military Mistake the 9-11 Attacks for a Training Scenario? - Excerpts Major General Larry Arnold, the commander of the Continental United States NORAD Region on September 11: "we do do hijacking scenarios as we go through these exercises from time to time." [15] It is known that simulated television news reports had been used in training exercises before 9/11. For example, a two-day exercise was held at Andrews Air Force Base, Maryland, in June 2001, called "Dark Winter," based on the scenario of a smallpox attack on the United States. This exercise, according to New York magazine, included "simulated news clips from an imaginary cable news network called NCN." It has been reported that volunteers taking part in another military exercise on the morning of September 11 did incorrectly think that television coverage of the attacks in New York was video footage created for their exercise. That exercise, called "Timely Alert II," was held at Fort Monmouth, an Army base about 50 miles south of New York City, and was based around a simulated biochemical terrorist attack at the base. Exercise participants later recalled that "when they first saw live footage of the events unfolding at the World Trade Center, they thought it was some elaborate training video to accompany the exercise." One training officer was told by a participant, "You really outdid yourself this time." [49] Article comment from someone who claims to have been on duty at Boston Center that day: "no one can put sim targets on the FAA scopes." [...] training scopes are completely tied off of our live system. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Article comment excerpt: ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Their triumphant behavior indicates they planted the demolition explosives (plus explosives residue found in their van).
It could be that prior to 9/11 Israel convinced the Saudis to go along with this false flag as a means of getting America to dispose of Saddam who the Saudis also considered a threat. This way the Israelis would have a scapegoat setup at whom fingers could be pointed. The Saudis are just Jews in an Arab cloak.
9-11 was a war game gone hot. It was directed by NORAD. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Out of all of those, 9/11 is the event with the MOST evidence of high level treason that affects us directly, yet there is ample evidence in all of the above listed events to prove government wrong doing, while at the same time it lies about what truly went on. If you care to think logically, there are plenty of really good reasons why we SHOULD look into the facts, pass the word around, and make it known what IS known. It is only by doing so ENOUGH people will say ENOUGH. I have similar thoughts. The US had a coup with JFK. Exactly. Prior to that event there was SOME semblance of a government which served the people and worked in their best interests. From that day on things have gone downhill, and those who took the reigns of power from the JFK administration have never reliquenshed it to those who would reverse the trend. The Internet has provided a means of exploring the past and seeing not only where we are today, but how we got here. As they say, "knowledge is power". It'll take more than a few of us to make a difference, but the more we can spread the facts as to what actually took place, the greater our chances of changing our future for the better. Why would they - they got away with it. Like 9-11. Israel's hands are all over 9-11. And like you have said it demonstrates the level of infiltration in "our" government. How many other foreign nationals could get away with driving a van filled with tons of explosives onto the George Washington Bridge on 9/11/2001 soon after the WTC attacks took place? That right there is prima facie evidence of high level treason, and involvement in the 9/11 attacks themselves, since those Mossad agents were released without charges due to pressure from the highest levels of our own government. I had information from Ursella Grand Pre, the widow of the author, Donn, who wrote the Barbarians Inside the Gates series of books (four in all). She told me that 9-11 was a NORAD test that went live. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
The five dancing Isralis are prima facie evidence of foreknowldge of the day's events. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
What other conclusion is possible? Easy to say this. Lawrence of Arabia would vehemently disagree with you. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
So a van full of explosives was found with Israels in it, and then it was exploded in front of hundreds of folks and this isn't news? Who brags that they control the US news media? That's what I'm thinking. The media was in the pocket of the fascist states. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
There is a lot of truth in your post. The U.S. has been using remote piloted control of aircraft since WW II. They have refined it and it was used on 9-11 to fly those planes into the Twin Towers. Average people do not know this at all. The media was in cahoots with the gooberment on all of it. There is a DJ I know (will not give his name or location) that is working on trying to foment a new revolution if the Feds try to take our guns using the U.N. as a front. This is what Obama wants to do. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Hint! Who benefited.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele “The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb “I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Jews. Not all "Jews" are bad of course, but overall, their allegiance to Satan and their means of causing all this terror has been documented before in the past and they will continue to be a problem until they are stopped.
God is always good!
A Catholic nun was sitting on a train opposite a Muslim man wearing a turban who was eating fresh shrimp. Every time he ate one he spat the tail in her direction requiring her to deflect it. He finished the box and threw it out the window. Seeing this she had had enough and pulled the train's emergency cord. The Muslim looked at her and said, "You'll get fined $250 for doing that you stupid worthless infidel Catholic bitch." She laughed and said, "When I cry rape and they smell your fingers you'll get 30 years you towel-headed camel-fucking litter-bug." “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
A man walked into his crowded local bar, waved a revolver around and yelled, "Who in here has been screwing my wife?" A voice from the back of the bar yelled back, "You're gonna need more ammo!" “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
OH my gawd I am taking these both too work next time.
______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
The media was in cahoots with the gooberment on all of it. Thanks for stopping by to review the 9/11 Witness info at Post #43, BTP. There's more on that research at Post #45 in this thread as well, so am linking it here for access convenience of both. Sorry for the reply delay. I very much agree with your statement about the media. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Regnery Publishing published the Barbarians Inide the Gates series of books for my friend, Donn de Grand Pre, who is now deceased. These books blew the lid off 9-11 as a conspiracy by the U.S. gov't with possible collusion by the Israelis. Book I is now out of print. I have copies of Book II and Book IV. I plan on selling them for $30 each. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Regnery Publishing published the Barbarians Inide the Gates series of books for my friend, Donn de Grand Pre, who is now deceased. These books blew the lid off 9-11 as a conspiracy by the U.S. gov't with possible collusion by the Israelis. Book I is now out of print. I have copies of Book II and Book IV. I plan on selling them for $30 each. I remember you mentioning your friend, Donn de Grand Pre, and his book(s) before so I did some research on Alfred Regnery and Regnery Publishing, which is Conservative oriented and was the second publishing company founded by his father, Henry Regnery. Learned much that was interesting, such as: the first book published by his father was by a Jewish Socialist of the Left Book Club in Britain, Victor Gollancz, who "was appalled at the bombing of German civilians late in the war and by the treatment of the country afterward." In short, Alfred Regnery (former President of Regnery Publishing) is a political insider and was also Barbara Olson's publisher. Claims to have seen and heard a low and fast flying plane approaching the Pentagon on 9/11 as he was driving on the highway but does not claim to have seen or heard a crash. His client, Barbara Olson, was reportedly a passenger on the alleged Pentagon plane, Flt. 77: Pentagon Attack Eyewitnesses | Eyewitnesses Accounts | Eyewitness at the Pentagon by Alfred S. Regnery, The Week of September 17, 2001 As I approached the Pentagon, which was still not quite in view, listening on the radio to the first reports about the World Trade Center disaster in New York, a jetliner, apparently at full throttle and not more than a couple of hundred yards above the ground, screamed overhead. Although airplanes regularly fly over the Pentagon on their way to Reagan National Airport, just a mile or two south, this plane was too low and going too fast. As I watched it disappear behind bridges and concrete barriers I knew it was about to crash. At almost the same moment the radio announcer mentioned the likelihood that the World Trade Center had been hit by terrorists, although it was not yet clear whether the planes that hit it were small or large, private or commercial, or what any of the circumstances were. My first thoughts were that this, too, must be the act of a terrorist. Seconds before the Pentagon came into view a huge black cloud of smoke rose above the road ahead. I came around the bend and there was the Pentagon billowing smoke, flames and debris, blackened on one side and with a gaping hole where the airplane had hit it. I pulled onto the shoulder and got out of my car, as did many others, and we were among the first to see what would soon be seen by millions of people around the world. [sic] Little did I know, of course, that one of the people in the airplane was our author and my friend Barbara Olson, whose new book was supposed to go to press this week. Research sources on Alfred S. Regnery: Regnery Publishing - Wikipedia | Alfred S. Regnery - Wikipedia | Alfred S. Regnery - Article example: The Pillars of Modern American Conservatism | Alfred S. Regnery - SourceWatch | Media shakeup: American Spectator publisher [Alfred S. Regnery] ousted - WashingtonExaminer.com | Alfred Regnery AKA Alfred S. Regnery - NNDB [Notable Names Database]: Regnery's grandfather, William H. Regnery, was founder of the America First Committee, a group which lobbied and argued against war on Nazi Germany. Alfred Regnery's cousin, William Regnery II, is founder of the Charles Martel Society, named for an eighth-century Christian warrior who defeated a Muslim army, thus, in the Martel Society's view, preserving Europe for Christian civilization. Edited for spelling, spacing and to expand the article excerpt section. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I was watching some stuff on the Military channel on cable a couple of days ago. The subject was on flying drones and the control of these aircraft. They have a done that is the size of about three feet across and can be used in surveillance of enemy targets. This leads me to believe that the planes that hit the Twin Towers were under the control of AWACS aircraft. It is not known who was at the controls of the AWACS, but it is likely that it may have been Israelis, since the "dancing Israelis" in New Jersey signify foreknowledge of the events. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
This leads me to believe that the planes that hit the Twin Towers were under the control of AWACS aircraft. It is not known who was at the controls of the AWACS, but it is likely that it may have been Israelis, since the "dancing Israelis" in New Jersey signify foreknowledge of the events. ;) Remote control by AWACS...homing devices hidden in the Towers...that 9/11 angle has a lot of panache but it falls apart under inspection because the alleged planes could have started falling apart before they struck their targets on account of exceeding their structural limitations at such high speeds and low altitudes. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Their would of also been a digital record on many levels. Very traceable. Like the cell phone calls that would of been impossible to make. Also traceable. And also technologically not plausible at that time in those speeds and altitudes and conditions. The wings would of most certainly ripped off at the pentagon. So many holes.... But WHO? A conglormete of many individuals. Thats who. HOW MANY?!?! We don't really know... but we do know that the number is MANY! Amirite? ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) (It's a more positive message)
A conglormete of many individuals. Thats who. HOW MANY?!?! We don't really know... but we do know that the number is MANY! Amirite? A conglomerate of many individuals...yes, I think that estimation is reasonably accurate. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Out of the list you posted, only ONE claims to have seen "faces" of the passengers. His name is James R. Cissell.
#49. To: Turtle (#48)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#50. To: GreyLmist (#45)
Is it just me, or does anyone else detect a pattern here?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#51. To: GreyLmist (#46)
He and other Israeli officials were allowed to leave the US aboard an El Al plane when all other planes were grounded on 9/11.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#52. To: Turtle (#48)
only ONE claims to have seen "faces" of the passengers. His name is James R. Cissel
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#53. To: Turtle (#48)
There were no remote-controlled airplanes or explosives in the buildings, and I will give you and anyone else 10,000 years to prove otherwise.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#54. To: Turtle, all (#48)
BTW,9-11 was done by Arabs seeking revenge on the U.S. for 60 years of humiliation. There were no remote-controlled airplanes or explosives in the buildings, and I will give you and anyone else 10,000 years to prove otherwise.
If either Moromney or Mammyjammyobammy win the November (s)election peoples with common sense will pray that December 21 2012 will indeed be the end of the world!
#55. To: Cynicom (#5)
We need to focus on WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW.
#56. To: Cynicom, wakeup (#5)
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We need to focus on WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW.
- George Santayana ...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: titorite (#34)
Norad would be your "who"
#58. To: FormerLurker (#56)
It is only by doing so ENOUGH people will say ENOUGH.
#59. To: BTP Holdings, *9-11*, *No Planers* (#30)
9-11 was a NORAD test that went live. It was all controlled. The USG flew a 747 from Hawaii to Australia with NO pilot on board. Those jets were NEVER hijacked. They were flown into the towers by another aircraft.
EXERCISES INCLUDED MOCK TV NEWS REPORTS
#60. To: All (#59)
Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC
EVEN if the Government's bogus cover story was somehow magically RIGHT and real planes brought those towers down...Rudy Guiliani would STILL be guilty of a MAJOR CRIME against this nation because he destroyed the evidence...and we've done absolutely NOTHING about it.
#61. To: BTP Holdings (#31)
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The five dancing Israelis who were filming the planes (in New Jersey) hitting the towers implies foreknowledge of the day's events
#62. To: tom007 (#50)
Look all the jews say the Arabs did it,
#63. To: GreyLmist (#43)
Dick Cheney — former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several “war games”;
#64. To: FormerLurker (#56)
hing is, what is happening NOW is a direct result of the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the attack on the USS Liberty, the Gulf War, Waco, OKC, 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc., etc., etc..
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#65. To: tom007 (#64)
The US had a coup with JFK.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#66. To: FormerLurker (#65)
From that day on things have gone downhill, and those who took the reigns of power from the JFK administration have never reliquenshed it to those who would reverse the trend.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#67. To: tom007 (#66)
Israel's hands are all over 9-11.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#68. To: GreyLmist (#59)
'Real-World or Exercise': Did the U.S. Military Mistake the 9-11 Attacks for a Training Scenario?
#69. To: tom007, FormerLurker (#67)
Israel's hands are all over 9-11.
#70. To: FormerLurker (#67)
That right there is prima facie evidence of high level treason, and involvement in the 9/11 attacks themselves, since those Mossad agents were released without charges due to pressure from the highest levels of our own government.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#71. To: Tatarewicz (#62)
The Saudis are just Jews in an Arab cloak.
#72. To: BTP Holdings (#69)
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#73. To: BTP Holdings (#71)
Easy to say this. Lawrence of Arabia would vehemently disagree with you. ;)
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#74. To: tom007 (#72)
Who brags that they control the US news media?
#75. To: GreyLmist (#43)
#76. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#77. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#78. To: Humor break (#76)
#79. To: All (#78)
the reason for hi-capacity weapons -
#80. To: Lod (#79)
#81. To: BTP Holdings (#75)
There is a lot of truth in your post.
#82. To: GreyLmist (#45)
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Alfred Regnery: President of Regnery Publishing,
#83. To: BTP Holdings (#82)
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#45: Alfred Regnery: President of Regnery Publishing,
no trip along that highway, over more than 20 years, prepared me for what I saw on September 11.
#84. To: GreyLmist (#83)
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At almost the same moment the radio announcer mentioned the likelihood that the World Trade Center had been hit by terrorists, although it was not yet clear whether the planes that hit it were small or large, private or commercial, or what any of the circumstances were. My first thoughts were that this, too, must be the act of a terrorist.
#85. To: BTP Holdings (#84)
I was watching some stuff on the Military channel on cable a couple of days ago. The subject was on flying drones and the control of these aircraft. They have a done that is the size of about three feet across and can be used in surveillance of enemy targets.
#86. To: GreyLmist (#85)
#87. To: titorite (#86)
But WHO?
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