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Title: Watch this only if you can handle the truth
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URL Source: http://www.activistpost.com/2012/09 ... y-if-you-can-handle-truth.html
Published: Sep 17, 2012
Author: ParadigmShift
Post Date: 2012-09-17 10:37:12 by christine
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Views: 387
Comments: 24

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#6. To: christine (#0)

One more time, lay the evils of the world at the feet of the lowest segment of American society.

The day will come when the offspring of all of us are taken away to wage yet another world war.

Self righteousness is NOT a badge of honor for those that have never been there, will never be there.

The age of the Lone Wolf is here, yet we see only a rare person stand for a cause.

Instead we see and hear the rabble pointing fingers in all directions, EXCEPT INWARD.

Disgusting.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   11:44:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't think it's necessary to participate in war to become aware of its evilness. Some are able to sense the evil or are better educated than others. However, I do think participating in war makes one far more aware of its evil even though in the beginning one may have thought going to war was patriotic or the right thing to do.

As the population of the world increasingly rejects war the war mongers move ever closer to a robot army and drone warfare. Soon enough no volunteers will be required.

noone222  posted on  2012-09-17   16:31:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Soon enough no volunteers will be required.

Theoretically, yes.

There is a counterbalance to that however.

War by intent, such as the last two world wars, were land battles, until the A bombs ended it.

Another land battle will again be most likely as ALL sides armed with massive nuclear weapons, know full well the outcome once the nukes start flying. Wrongly, many people assume the world will end, humans will be extinct in an all out nuclear war. There will be survivors.

If a land battle does commence, and one side sees they are going to lose, then comes the use of mass nuclear weapons.

Only fools would unleash nuclear weapons????

Revisit Cuba, Kruscheve had given his military prior approval to use nuclear weapons had Americans invaded.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   17:12:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No one was going to WWIII over Cuba, ever.

Regardless any posturing to the contrary.

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   17:50:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No one was going to WWIII over Cuba, ever.

The Russians had authority to use nuclear weapons on our military and we would not have responded?????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   18:17:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nikki was not going to do squat, and everyone knew it.

Shoe-banging does not equal an ICBM launch.

He knew that had they launched, the USSR would have ended later that day.

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   18:28:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sir Lod...

From Miami Herald and Russian archives...

" Two recent books -- One Hell of a Gamble: Khrushchev, Castro and Kennedy, 1958-1964 by Timothy Naftali, a Cold War historian at Yale University, and Russian historian Aleksandr Fursenko, and Gribkov's Operation Anadyr -- put the number of tactical warheads deployed in Cuba at between 98 and 104.

The world has long known about Moscow's deployment in Cuba of SS4 and SS5 missiles. With that one stroke, Khrushchev hoped to double the number of Soviet missiles capable of hitting the U.S. heartland, while extending his nuclear defensive umbrella to Cuba.

But right from the June 10, 1962, meeting at which Khrushchev decided to secretly send long-range missiles to Cuba in the code-named Operation Anadyr, tactical nukes were on the Havana shipping list.

They included 80 FKR cruise missiles armed with 12-kiloton warheads. The FKR was essentially a scaled-down, pilotless version of a MiG jet, with a target guidance system good out to 100 miles, although it could fly much farther. It was designed to defend the Cuban coastline and the land around the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay from any U.S. invasion attempt.

More tactical warheads

But when Kennedy made thinly veiled complaints about the Soviets' growing military deployment in Cuba that August, Khrushchev decided on Sept. 7 to add two more types of tactical nukes to the list, apparently hoping to bolster Cuba's defenses against a U.S. land invasion:

12 Luna ground-to-ground rockets, with a range of 30 miles, with 2-kiloton warheads. They were to be attached to Soviet motorized infantry regiments around Havana and Guantanamo.

Six 12-kiloton bombs for Il-28 bombers, with a range of 750 miles and based near the central Cuban city of Santa Clara.

`........`This shows that Khrushchev had his finger on the trigger, and really had decided to use tactical nuclear weapons if Cuba was invaded,......'' Naftali said.

The Soviet freighter Indigirka, carrying 45 SS4 and SS5 warheads, 36 of the FKR warheads and all of the Luna and Il-28 nuclear warheads, left the Soviet Union on Sept. 15 and arrived in the Cuban port of Mariel on Oct. 4, three weeks before the crisis erupted.

The Aleksandrovsk, carrying 24 strategic warheads and 44 FKR warheads, docked in the north-central port of La Isabela on Oct. 23 -- the day before the U.S. blockade of Cuba's shipping lanes went into effect.

Lod...Also remember all of the nuclear weapons in Cuba at the time were MUCH MORE POWERFUL than those we used on Japan.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   18:39:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

All the post-Japan nukes are much more powerful, just like our computers today are much more powerful.

All the missile crisis did was have us crawling under our desks at school to protect us from the fall-out.

It was all MAD, and bogus.

Jack got killed and Nikki died(?).

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   19:05:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: All (#19)

So off-topic it's time for me to hit Ignore.

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17 19:07:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It was all MAD, and bogus.

Jack got killed and Nikki died(?)

September 11, 1971.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-18 05:00:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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