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Title: Watch this only if you can handle the truth
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URL Source: http://www.activistpost.com/2012/09 ... y-if-you-can-handle-truth.html
Published: Sep 17, 2012
Author: ParadigmShift
Post Date: 2012-09-17 10:37:12 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 359
Comments: 24

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#1. To: christine (#0)

I can handle the truth, just can't handle the images.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-09-17   10:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

"and in our inner cities"?

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-09-17   10:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Wake-up Productions

Itistoolate  posted on  2012-09-17   10:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

bump this!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   11:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: 4 (#0)

I assume this vid has been approved by the members of "Grunts for Globalism"?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-09-17   11:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

One more time, lay the evils of the world at the feet of the lowest segment of American society.

The day will come when the offspring of all of us are taken away to wage yet another world war.

Self righteousness is NOT a badge of honor for those that have never been there, will never be there.

The age of the Lone Wolf is here, yet we see only a rare person stand for a cause.

Instead we see and hear the rabble pointing fingers in all directions, EXCEPT INWARD.

Disgusting.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   11:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#0)

My sentiments "ZACTLY" !

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-09-17   16:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#6)

I don't think it's necessary to participate in war to become aware of its evilness. Some are able to sense the evil or are better educated than others. However, I do think participating in war makes one far more aware of its evil even though in the beginning one may have thought going to war was patriotic or the right thing to do.

As the population of the world increasingly rejects war the war mongers move ever closer to a robot army and drone warfare. Soon enough no volunteers will be required.

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-09-17   16:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#8)

Soon enough no volunteers will be required.

Theoretically, yes.

There is a counterbalance to that however.

War by intent, such as the last two world wars, were land battles, until the A bombs ended it.

Another land battle will again be most likely as ALL sides armed with massive nuclear weapons, know full well the outcome once the nukes start flying. Wrongly, many people assume the world will end, humans will be extinct in an all out nuclear war. There will be survivors.

If a land battle does commence, and one side sees they are going to lose, then comes the use of mass nuclear weapons.

Only fools would unleash nuclear weapons????

Revisit Cuba, Kruscheve had given his military prior approval to use nuclear weapons had Americans invaded.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   17:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

No one was going to WWIII over Cuba, ever.

Regardless any posturing to the contrary.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   17:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#0)

Thank you for posting this. I feel the same about this war effort. I want no part in rooting for war in Libya, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, etc. Bring our troops home. They are being used not to bring peace in the Middle East region but instead to fuel the war efforts which our CIA, DIA, and those low profile think tanks advising Barack Obama (notice I did not refer to him as President), all fully endorse and watch as things transpire around the world. They want to start ww3 to bring about their false messiah. All these think tank advisors advising Barack Obama to start another war will be held accountable.

God Speed ahead.

purplerose  posted on  2012-09-17   17:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#9)

Only fools would unleash nuclear weapons????

How about the sun causing nuclear catastrophe? If you've noticed we've been having sun solar storms since last year. They will pick up throughout this year and intensify next year possibly causing major interference with our power grids and satellites.

purplerose  posted on  2012-09-17   18:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: purplerose (#12)

Mother Nature has her own way of throwing unknowns into the equation that we can never quite figger out.

Good point.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   18:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#10)

No one was going to WWIII over Cuba, ever.

The Russians had authority to use nuclear weapons on our military and we would not have responded?????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   18:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

Nikki was not going to do squat, and everyone knew it.

Shoe-banging does not equal an ICBM launch.

He knew that had they launched, the USSR would have ended later that day.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   18:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Lod (#15)

He knew that had they launched, the USSR would have ended later that day.

Kruschev had already given permission for the use of nukes...

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   18:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#15)

Sir Lod...

From Miami Herald and Russian archives...

" Two recent books -- One Hell of a Gamble: Khrushchev, Castro and Kennedy, 1958-1964 by Timothy Naftali, a Cold War historian at Yale University, and Russian historian Aleksandr Fursenko, and Gribkov's Operation Anadyr -- put the number of tactical warheads deployed in Cuba at between 98 and 104.

The world has long known about Moscow's deployment in Cuba of SS4 and SS5 missiles. With that one stroke, Khrushchev hoped to double the number of Soviet missiles capable of hitting the U.S. heartland, while extending his nuclear defensive umbrella to Cuba.

But right from the June 10, 1962, meeting at which Khrushchev decided to secretly send long-range missiles to Cuba in the code-named Operation Anadyr, tactical nukes were on the Havana shipping list.

They included 80 FKR cruise missiles armed with 12-kiloton warheads. The FKR was essentially a scaled-down, pilotless version of a MiG jet, with a target guidance system good out to 100 miles, although it could fly much farther. It was designed to defend the Cuban coastline and the land around the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay from any U.S. invasion attempt.

More tactical warheads

But when Kennedy made thinly veiled complaints about the Soviets' growing military deployment in Cuba that August, Khrushchev decided on Sept. 7 to add two more types of tactical nukes to the list, apparently hoping to bolster Cuba's defenses against a U.S. land invasion:

12 Luna ground-to-ground rockets, with a range of 30 miles, with 2-kiloton warheads. They were to be attached to Soviet motorized infantry regiments around Havana and Guantanamo.

Six 12-kiloton bombs for Il-28 bombers, with a range of 750 miles and based near the central Cuban city of Santa Clara.

`........`This shows that Khrushchev had his finger on the trigger, and really had decided to use tactical nuclear weapons if Cuba was invaded,......'' Naftali said.

The Soviet freighter Indigirka, carrying 45 SS4 and SS5 warheads, 36 of the FKR warheads and all of the Luna and Il-28 nuclear warheads, left the Soviet Union on Sept. 15 and arrived in the Cuban port of Mariel on Oct. 4, three weeks before the crisis erupted.

The Aleksandrovsk, carrying 24 strategic warheads and 44 FKR warheads, docked in the north-central port of La Isabela on Oct. 23 -- the day before the U.S. blockade of Cuba's shipping lanes went into effect.

Lod...Also remember all of the nuclear weapons in Cuba at the time were MUCH MORE POWERFUL than those we used on Japan.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-09-17   18:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: purplerose, 4 (#11)

Bring our troops home.

I'm all for this only if they promise to take off their uniforms, burn them, and promise NEVER to SERVE the EMPIRE again.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-09-17   18:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#17)

All the post-Japan nukes are much more powerful, just like our computers today are much more powerful.

All the missile crisis did was have us crawling under our desks at school to protect us from the fall-out.

It was all MAD, and bogus.

Jack got killed and Nikki died(?).

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   19:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#19)

So off-topic it's time for me to hit Ignore.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-09-17   19:07:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

I'm all for this only if they promise to take off their uniforms, burn them, and promise NEVER to SERVE the EMPIRE again.

Yes. That's a good and proper thought. Fred Reed, author and columnist, says that war is inherent in our DNA or whatever; I think our free will should be able to overcome that....Government propaganda helped immensely to send unthinking types into fits of pseudo-patriotism and into the recruiting offices. Finally, the Propaganda Machine was confronted by some competition: the Internet; however, that requires reading and thinking. Government Propaganda requires neither.

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." Lod

Bub  posted on  2012-09-17   19:15:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

I'm all for this only if they promise to take off their uniforms, burn them, and promise NEVER to SERVE the EMPIRE again.

I remember reading on this forum last year where some poster had posted a thread about about a guy in uniform who after seeing what he had involved himself with in being deployed overseas, after returning home from active duty, he refused to ship out again for religious reasons. I remember reading that he sued the U.S. government over this too. I begin to think about that and came to my senses that he had a valid point. His serving overseas to fight somebody else's war had nothing do with with freedom but instead is designed to desensitize our troops and turn them into war machines.

purplerose  posted on  2012-09-17   20:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine, all (#0)

Going head to head with low level minions of the NWO will be like hitting the beach at Normandy, but without the win at the end.

Too many good men will get slaughtered, and the powers that be will have the excuse they need to lock down everything and install full scale martial law.

Decapitation is the only way to kill this beast.

‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it,
the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to
his commitment to excellence.’
~Vince Lombardi

Buzzard  posted on  2012-09-17   21:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Lod (#19)

It was all MAD, and bogus.

Jack got killed and Nikki died(?)

September 11, 1971.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-18   5:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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