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Title: DHS buying 200 million more rounds of ammunition
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URL Source: http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/262333.html
Published: Sep 18, 2012
Author: staff
Post Date: 2012-09-18 23:47:52 by Tatarewicz
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Following controversy over its purchase of around 1.2 billion bullets in the last six months alone, the Department of Homeland Security has put out a new solicitation for over 200 million more rounds of ammunition, some of which are designated to be used by snipers. A series of new solicitations posted on the FedBizOpps website show that the DHS is looking to purchase 200 million rounds of .223 rifle ammunition over the next four years, as well as 176,000 rounds of .308 caliber 168 grain hollow point boat tail (HPBT) rounds in addition to 25,000 rounds of blank .308 caliber bullets. As James Smith over at the Prepper Podcast website highlights, "It is the type of ammunition and not necessarily the quantity that is troubling." Smith points out that the DHS' acquisition of .308 rounds is of concern because they are set to be used by well-trained snipers. "All of the sniper grade ammunition is being used by trained, or in-the-process-of-being-trained snipers," writes Smith, noting that the math adds up to 135,384 potential kills for the snipers to make, using the 176,000 rounds of ammunition, basing the figures on the fact that United States Army and Marine Corps snipers in the Vietnam War expended 1.3 rounds of ammunition for each claimed and verified kill. As this police training website documents, .308 caliber 168 grain bullets are the ammunition of choice for experienced law enforcement snipers. The number of bullets purchased by the DHS now adds up to a staggering 1.4 billion over the last six months alone. Although all those bullets won't be delivered at once, the DHS' commitment to purchasing such an arsenal of ammo is both worrying and ironic given that Americans are being harassed and treated with suspicion for buying a couple of boxes of ammo at their local gun store. Following a barrage of questions about why the federal agency has purchased so many bullets, the DHS has refused to respond and even gone to the lengths of censoring information relating to solicitations for ammunition. The DHS' decision back in March to purchase of 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage prompted questions as to why the federal agency required such powerful bullets and in such large quantities merely for training purposes. This was followed up by a more recent order for a further 750 million rounds of assorted ammunition, including bullets that can penetrate walls. The mainstream media responded to the controversy by focusing on a purchase of 174,000 bullets by the Social Security Administration while completely ignoring the fact that the DHS had purchased well over a billion rounds. Although the Associated Press and other media outlets dismissed concerns over the federal government purchasing large quantities of ammunition as paranoia, the fact that the DHS is preparing for civil unrest cannot be denied. http://infowars.com FACTS & FIGURES Non-military U.S. government agencies have enough deadly hollow point bullets to kill every man, woman, and child in the country five times over. http://examiner.com Hollow-point bullets are so lethal the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battlefield in time of war. Hollow-point bullets don't just stop or hurt people; they penetrate the body, flatten out, fragment and thus cause maximum damage to the body's organs. Death often follows. American Free Press Rational minds have legitimate concerns about government possessing such massive fire power, particularly at a time in American history when the advocates of centralized government control openly call for the end of gun rights for citizens and the repeal of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. http://examiner.com According to a recently published study, the U.S. is headed towards a violent upheaval in the coming years. LiveScience In a new study, evolutionary biologist Peter Turchin, who reported his results in the July issue of the Journal of Peace Research, compiled historical data about violent incidents in U.S. history between 1780 and 2010, including riots, terrorism, assassinations and rampages. The data indicates that a cycle of violence repeats itself every 50 years in America, like a wave that peaks in every other generation. LiveScience The DHS needs to have an honest and open conversation with America as to the Department's intentions with the ammunition. Civilian, i.e. The Public, should have complete oversight of the actions of DHS and the agencies within its purview. Prison Planet ISH/SM
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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
I feel safer already.
Fuck FedGov, we've STILL got them outnumbered.....
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#2. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
Relax. It will take them 3/4 of a century to catch up to the number of rounds Americans have cached. :)
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit, because he doesn't come over your property and break your windows. - Dave Hebel Ford Mustang Forums
#4. To: Critter (#3)
point Relax. It will take them 3/4 of a century to catch up to the number of rounds Americans have cached. :)
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#5. To: Critter (#3)
Hey C Just thinking for a change - how long are modern (1980 or so) propellents in cartiges reliable? Thirty or so years is my guess.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#6. To: tom007 (#5)
Keep them cool and dry, they should last 50 or more years.
... If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for....
#7. To: Give Me Liberty (#6)
Got some. You're right. "Keep them cool and dry, they should last 50 or more years. "
"If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."
#8. To: tom007 (#5)
I don't think I've fired more than a few dozen rounds of 7.62x54R that I use that were built after 1975. I've fired USSR surplus ammo dated all the way back to the 1950s without problems. I'd say modern ammo shelf life is reasonably long.
Rivers of blood were spilled out over land that, in normal times, not even the poorest Arab would have worried his head over." Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
#9. To: Preppers, 4 (#8)
To appreciate the race between us and them, go to suppliers like MidwayUSA.com and NatchezSS.com to learn how many of those type rounds are now Sold Out and are on Backorder (for us).
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#10. To: ndcorup, tom007, Give Me Liberty (#7)
as one who had to abide by OP4 Ammunition Afloat and OP5 Ammunition Ashore for over twenty years, the critical break-down temperature for smokeless powder is 110 degrees Fahrenheit, therefore, storage temperature should never exceed this point. Brass becomes brittle over its life span so watch for head separation upon extraction, these malfunctions can be easily remedied with a broken cartridge remover. keep in mind when adjusting for elevation hold that the ambient temperature will effect the burn rate of the propellent, faster for higher, slower for lower which in turn increases and decreases muzzle velocity.
If either Moromney or Mammyjammyobammy win the November (s)election peoples with common sense will pray that December 21 2012 will indeed be the end of the world!
#11. To: Give Me Liberty (#6)
Thanks for the info.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#12. To: historian1944 (#8)
I fired some WWII 8mm Mauser ammo back in the mid-90's and they all went "bang!".
-Alex Kurtagic
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