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Title: Pilots Analyze the Government Provided Radar Data of the Planes of 9-11
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Published: Sep 24, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-09-24 19:34:06 by tom007
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
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“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Alleged aircraft hit the buildings???? One can see where this is going. Another waste of time. Another review by "EXPERTS" that cannot..."AUTHENTICATE"... the government provided material, well then the inference is it may all be LIES, all BOGUS, BECAUSE WE CANNOT PROVE ANYTHING, WHY WASTE YOUR TIME.
Are you trying to say that it is 100% certain that the aircraft which struck the towers are the ones reported as being hijacked? If you bothered watching the video, you'd more than likely understand why and how that is highly unlikely.
I dont think so. I'll stand with my flying telephone poles. Am organizing a panel of "pole" experts as we speak, to address the "alleged" 9/11 event that never happened.
Cyni, 9/11 happened alright, just not the way the talking heads and the politicians claim it did. What do you make of that van on the George Washington Bridge pulled over on 9/11 after the attacks, you know, the one that was filled with tons of explosives and driven by Israelis? Good starting point. Ever notice however there are no panels of experts to prove or disprove they ever existed?
News reports from that day, along with FBI documents, indicate they did in fact exist. Is there ever a time you are not setting someone up? Are you 100% sure your not locked into a misguided thought loop of continual argument and repetition??? ____________________________________________________________ . . . The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself, Action!!!
However, there has never been any independent panel of "experts" that can "prove" the government is lying.
[sic] Cape: "Cape TRACON." BOS Center: "Yeah, hi, uh...Are you uh able to...are you able to talk to Otis on this line?" Cape: "Um, I'm not sure..." What? Cape TRACON is Otis. Even stranger is that an Air Traffic Controller at Boston Center tried to scramble fighter jets. That amounts to a huge breach of national security. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Ever hear of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, or the producers of this video Pilots for 9/11 Truth? The government story of the WTC collapse is physically impossible. The Israelis who were arrested on 9/11 with tons of explosives were released with charges. How much more factual evidence is necessary? Would it take Sean Hannity to report that the government lied on 9/11 to make it so? It is becoming more obvious each passing day that you are not interested in 9/11 truth, you are here to attack those who try to speak about it. Screw off shill. This is what I spoke of... "What do you make of that van on the George Washington Bridge pulled over on 9/11 after the attacks, you know, the one that was filled with tons of explosives and driven by Israelis?" I would like to see a panel of experts or anyone to revisit that.
Snarky, but funny. In my opinion, Fox is the paid opposition, so their take, slant or spin is always suspect.
All matters pertaining to Israeli involvement in 9/11 is classified. Here's an interesting video you might want to watch. Thanks FL.There's a lot of material there. I thought the salient fact was that one of the jets performance perimeters were entirely consistent with a 757 until shortly after it passed over a military base, then it's performance became impossible for a 757 to perform. The "Magic Airplane" of our time, it would seem.
And here's a few more... The dog that didn't bark. Tells ya all ya need to know. I wonder how many other people would have gotten away with being caught with tons of explosives in a van on the George Washington Bridge on 9/11, or would have gotten away with blowing up a truck on King St. NYC that morning...
Who needs a panel of experts when you got the cops on their radio? Now you can empanel a jury of pointy heads, Cyni. ; ] Remember it all far too well. Makes me sick.
it's been proven to me! so has the fact that the government lied about Kennedy's assassination in the Warren Commission Report.
Might it be Stewart AFB? 9/11 Flight Paths & Stewart Air Base PS: Flights 11 and 175 were 767's, not 757's. It was Flight 77 which allegedly struck the Pentagon which was a 757. Here's some further info. There was tad of tongue in cheek there.
Having been involved with lesser events with the government and military, over many years, I can safely say that, things get screwed up, people misspeak, misunderstand, and it takes great effort to untangle things. Recall that no one of responsibility ever stood up and called a halt to the madness. It was a lowly FAA person that finally took the bull by the horns and ordered everyone down until it could be sorted out. Cheney and Bush did nothing,none of their boot lickers did anything, the world was gone mad. A peon stepped up, called a halt to everything. The VP was as useless as tits on a rain barrel and Bush was hiding in Louisiana.
And here's a full blown expose. The video is rather long, but well worth the time. ahhhh ;)
Bush was hiding in Louisiana. That's for sure. But the VP was useful to someone that morning. Do you remember "Do the orders still stand Mr. Vice President?" What an excellent report on this MIHOP event. Thanks much. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
You bet = if they were a gang of Navajos they all would have been executed NOT released before an investigation into the event started. What a farce 9-11 has become. The government has abdicated it's contract with the governed. More like they blew up (just like the towers) the imaginary contract with us.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Yes I do. After I retired, a friend of mine was very near the top of FAA in Washington. From him working in the FAA control center as boss, I had a good background as to what could or could not have happened. He was as anti government as me and never entertained yes men, boot lickers or government toadies. So when some suggest that FAA people were in on it, I would gamble my life they were not. It would probably astound some as to how many employees despise the government. There were but two employers of such professionals, military and government. Not much choice.
See #35.
The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11;, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version... is almost entirely untrue... The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission. Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report. Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes. Farmer states...“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.” The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. 9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, "No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again." 9/11 Commissioners say "Official Story" a Lie 9/11 COMMISSIONERS The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”. The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn’t bother to tell the American people (free subscription required). Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations. 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only “the first draft” of history. 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .” 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting” Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”. 9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had - in a way - conflicts of interest“. The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry, said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.” However, there has never been any independent panel of "experts" that can "prove" the government is lying. 9/11 Commission Report: The Most Ridiculous Conspiracy Theory Of All Time ****** During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Well here's something interesting about the "push for privatization of the WTC and Stewart AFB"... From Mossad - The Israeli Connection To 911 The IDC also has a "Marc Rich Center for the Study of Commodities, Trading and Financial Markets" and a "Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy and Strategy." The cosmetics magnate Ronald S. Lauder, who is a supporter of Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his far-right Likud Party, founded the Lauder school. Lauder, president of the Jewish National Fund and former chairman of New York Governor George Pataki's Commission on Privatization, is the key individual who pushed the privatization of the WTC and former Stewart AFB, where the flight paths of the two planes that hit the twin towers oddly converged. Ronald Lauder played a significant, albeit unreported, role in the preparation for 9/11. More on Lauder... From 9/11:Israel did it Lauder is active in the following organizations: Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations Lauder was elected president of the World Jewish Congress on 10 June, 2007. Lauder founded a school for the Mossad in Herzliya, Israel called the Lauder School of Government Diplomacy and Strategy. He is arguably the key Sayan in the preparation of 9/11. FL: Might it be Stewart AFB? That link doesn't work. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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#2. To: tom007 (#0)
#3. To: Cynicom, tom007 (#2)
Alleged aircraft hit the buildings????
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#4. To: tom007, *9-11* (#0)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#5. To: FormerLurker (#3)
Are you trying to say that it is 100% certain that the aircraft which struck the towers are the ones reported as being hijacked? If you bothered watching the video, you'd more than likely understand why and how that is highly unlikely.
#6. To: Cynicom (#5)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#7. To: FormerLurker (#6)
What do you make of that van on the George Washington Bridge pulled over on 9/11 after the attacks, you know, the one that was filled with tons of explosives and driven by Israelis?
#8. To: Cynicom (#7)
Ever notice however there are no panels of experts to prove or disprove they ever existed?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#9. To: FormerLurker (#3)
Are you trying to say that it is 100% certain that the aircraft which struck the towers are the ones reported as being hijacked? If you bothered watching the video, you'd more than likely understand why and how that is highly unlikely.
#10. To: FormerLurker (#8)
News reports from that day, along with FBI documents, indicate they did in fact exist.
#11. To: FormerLurker, *9-11* (#4)
At the 10:14 mark: "At approximately 08:35, a call to scramble fighters is made by Boston Center directly to Cape Approach, trying to get in touch with Otis Air Force Base."
#12. To: Cynicom (#10)
However, there has never been any independent panel of "experts" that can "prove" the government is lying.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#13. To: titorite (#9)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#14. To: FormerLurker (#12)
How much more factual evidence is necessary? Would it take Sean Hannity to report that the government lied on 9/11 to make it so?
#15. To: FormerLurker (#12)
Would it take Sean Hannity to report that the government lied on 9/11 to make it so?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#16. To: tom007 (#15)
#17. To: Cynicom (#14)
I would like to see a panel of experts or anyone to revisit that.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#18. To: FormerLurker (#4)
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#19. To: Cynicom (#14)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#20. To: FormerLurker (#17)
All matters pertaining to Israeli involvement in 9/11 is classified.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#21. To: tom007 (#20)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: Cynicom (#14)
I would like to see a panel of experts or anyone to revisit that.
#23. To: FormerLurker (#17)
#24. To: Cynicom (#10)
#25. To: tom007 (#18)
I thought the salient fact was that one of the jets performance perimeters were entirely consistent with a 757 until shortly after it passed over a military base
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#26. To: Cynicom (#23)
Makes me sick.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#27. To: christine (#24)
it's been proven to me!
#28. To: randge (#22)
#29. To: Cynicom, tom007, christine, All (#23)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#30. To: Cynicom (#27)
#31. To: Cynicom (#28)
The VP was as useless as tits on a rain barrel and Bush was hiding in Louisiana.
#32. To: FormerLurker (#4)
#33. To: FormerLurker (#21)
I wonder how many other people would have gotten away with being caught with tons of explosives in a van on the George Washington Bridge on 9/11, or would have gotten away with blowing up a truck on King St. NYC that morning...
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#34. To: tom007 (#33)
#35. To: randge (#31)
Do you remember "Do the orders still stand Mr. Vice President?"
#36. To: christine (#30)
#37. To: Cynicom (#10)
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However, there has never been any independent panel of "experts" that can "prove" the government is lying.
#38. To: tom007, *9-11* (#18)
Concerning Stewart AFB and Flights 11 and 175 passing over it simultaneously...
The IDC, a private, non-profit university, is closely tied to the Mossad. The IDC has a "research institute" headed by Shabtai Shavit, former head of the Mossad from 1989 to 1996, called the International Policy Institute for Counter- Terrorism.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#39. To: All (#38)
Ronald Lauder - Billionaire Estée Lauder Cosmetics magnate. He was the chairman of NY Governor George Pataki's commission on privatization. He is the key individual who lobbied for the privatization of the WTC [12] -- but he was also instrumental in the successful privatisation of the former Stewart Air Force Base. Oddly, the flight paths of flight 175 and flight 11 converged directly over this airport. Map
Jewish National Fund
World Jewish Congress
American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee
Anti-Defamation League
Jewish Theological Seminary.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#40. To: FormerLurker, tom007 (#25)
tom007: I thought the salient fact was that one of the jets performance perimeters were entirely consistent with a 757 until shortly after it passed over a military base
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