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Title: Californians flee for better-run states, study finds
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Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/2 ... des-study-finds/#ixzz27aJLgsmT
Published: Sep 26, 2012
Author: Fox News
Post Date: 2012-09-26 16:34:04 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 389
Comments: 24
Californians are fleeing in droves to live in better-managed states, according to a conservative research group. The long-running exodus from the cash-strapped Golden State is an old story, but a new study by The Manhattan Institute finds that the biggest beneficiaries of the population drain are Texas, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Idaho, Utah, Georgia and South Carolina. Lower cost of living, less government debt and a more business-friendly culture are the main drivers, according to the study. "States that have gained the most at California’s expense are rated as having better business climates," the study concluded. "The data suggest that many cost drivers —taxes, regulations, the high price of housing and commercial real estate, costly electricity, union power, and high labor costs — are prompting businesses to locate outside California, thus helping to drive the exodus." Census data shows that more Americans have left California since 2005 than have come to live in it. The finding is a sharp contrast to earlier decades -- 4.2 million Americans moved to California from other states between 1960 and 1990. The report found that since 1990, the state has lost nearly 3.4 million residents through migration to other states, like Texas, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Idaho, Utah, Georgia and South Carolina. The average number of residents leaving the state each year over the last decade is 225,000, the report found. There are many reasons for the exodus, including economic hardship and population density, according to the study, titled "The Great California Exodus: A Closer Look." Many people are driven out of the state in search of work in states with lower unemployment rates, like Texas. The data also found high housing prices and high business taxes in the state to be factors. "They paint a negative picture of California growth, when all it has done is settle to the national average," Myers said. "And they totally miss that California natives are less like to leave than almost any others." Most of the people leaving are people originally from somewhere else, he said. The U.S. Census reported last year that residents of California are fleeing the state at a faster rate than people leaving any other state. The most common state-to-state move in 2010 was California to Texas, according to the Census. A study earlier this year by the University of Southern California found that California's population growth has slowed to about 1 percent annually, mainly due to fewer immigrants and an increasing number of Californians heading to other states. Demographer Joel Kotkin told The Wall Street Journal that a major problem is that parts of the state are out of reach for the middle class. "Basically, if you don’t own a piece of Facebook or Google and you haven’t robbed a bank and don't have rich parents, then your chances of being able to buy a house or raise a family in the Bay Area or in most of coastal California is pretty weak," Kotkin told the paper, adding that in his estimation, the state is run for the benefit of the very rich, the very poor, and public employees.
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#2. To: X-15 (#0)
Nevada, no state income tax since all of their revenus comes from legalized gambling. I still would not live there, since I jusat cannot get used to the climate with the desert so near. The only place you can get away from it is in the Sierra Nevada mountains.
Heck, BTP, Reno is a lovely four season place with great skiing and lots of mountains. Great climate and climbing! : ) I hope the Californians keep moving on through NV beyond the state line on the Eastern side of the state.
Home of the geniuses that keep sending Harry Reid to Washington to fix things. What she says is true, the area around Reno is like that. But what she forgot to mention was that 99% of what she's describing is on the California side of the border.
It's not that high of a percentage Big Meanie. Mount Rose and the Mount Rose Wilderness is a couple of miles up the road and that's on the NV side. Half of Lake Tahoe is NV too.
Mark Twain once described Tahoe as "the fairest picture the whole earth affords." They used to be able to see 100 feet down into water that is 1600 feet deep. That was before Nevada got done with it. Nevada needed trees to build Virginia City, the railroads, and to shore up the silver mines that went thousands of feet deep. Unfortunately, 99% of Nevada looked like this (until they started bombing the crap out of it): So they went to the 1% of Nevada worth living in, the area around Tahoe, which they share with California, and cut down over half the forest. We're talking about an area where the lake alone is 12 miles wide and 22 miles long. The lake, obviously, is at the bottom of a bowl, and the dirt wouldn't stay up on the hills, and out of the lake. Decades later, the situation was still so bad that Congress had to create the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency to govern the area. Nevada hasn't been in charge of their half of the basin for over 40 years and the area is recovering. Right. You wouldn't want them wrecking the place.
Decades later, the situation was still so bad that Congress had to create the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency to govern the area. Nevada hasn't been in charge of their half of the basin for over 40 years and the area is recovering. Some good history there, Big Meanie, on why man's meddling in the natural scheme of things is bad for the entire planet.
This agency had nothing to do with the Comstock, which was out of business more than seven decades before the TRPA was formed in 1969. This agency is tasked with limiting development on both the Nevada and California sides of Lake Tahoe. Basically the TRPA serves to fine property owners and business in the area. In 2005, the TRPA tried to charge people for buoys on the lake--$5000 for one and $7500 for two. Guess boating deaths are preferable to buoys in the water. And, CALIFORNIA is the state proceeding with questioning the effectiveness of permits for buoys and environmental impact of piers. In 2007, 3100 acres and about 250 structures burned to the ground mostly because of the TRPA strict environmental baloney that failed to promote any defense-able space around structures and the inability to combat the fire led to greater loss of structures AND trees. The TRPA will fine you $5000 for cutting a tree but they have no issue with 3100 acres burning to the ground. But, homeowners can't cut even one tree for defensible space which is a really grand idea.
The Comstock Lode produced so much silver that the U.S. started a mint in Carson City, Nevada. Still today those silver dollars with the "CC" mint mark are very much valued.
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#8. To: BTP Holdings (#2)
I jusat cannot get used to the climate with the desert so near.
#14. To: BTP Holdings, abraxas (#8)
"Nevada"
"Reno is a lovely four season place with great skiing and lots of mountains. Great climate and climbing!"
#15. To: Big Meanie, BTP Holdings (#14)
What she says is true, the area around Reno is like that. But what she forgot to mention was that 99% of what she's describing is on the California side of the border.
#17. To: All, abraxas (#15)
"Half of Lake Tahoe is in Nevada"
"I hope the Californians keep moving on through Nevada......"
#21. To: Big Meanie (#17)
So they went to the 1% of Nevada worth living in, the area around Tahoe, which they share with California, and cut down over half the forest. We're talking about an area where the lake alone is 12 miles wide and 22 miles long. The lake, obviously, is at the bottom of a bowl, and the dirt wouldn't stay up on the hills, and out of the lake.
#23. To: BTP Holdings, Big Meanie (#21)
Tahoe Regional Planning Agency
#24. To: abraxas (#23)
the Comstock,
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