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Title: Smoke and Mirrors videos-controversy topic
Source: various
URL Source: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/reada ... gi?ArtNum=149329&Disp=671#C671
Published: Sep 29, 2012
Author: Me and various
Post Date: 2012-09-29 01:19:12 by GreyLmist
Keywords: 9/11, NIST, PBS, CBS
Views: 2984
Comments: 94

Relevant info on this topic is accessible through posts #586 and #671 linked below:

4um Title: How 9-11 Was Done

Post #586 -- videos, links, and details

Post #671 -- WETA/PBS addendum info

Poster Comment:

Tangential discussion starting point [#103] at 4um Title: Pilots Analyze the Government Provided Radar Data of the Planes of 9-11, if needed for referencing here.

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#85. To: All, *9-11* (#0) (Edited)

This is an addendum for info on the PVI L-VIS computer system at the GM Building that is relevant to this topic concerning the GM building coordinates of the 9/11 CBS footage-angle in question and where the CBS Early Show with Bryant Gumble that aired it was also located.

4um Title: NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent - - Post #78
+ Edits at Post #93 to correct and activate the broken links.

PVI L-VIS computer at GM Building + CBS Early Show with Bryant Gumble on 9/11 at GM Building + Smoke and Mirrors topic info on Empire State Building footage-angle coordinates at GM Building

CBS bought a PVI LVIS computer in 1999 for the Early Show (during which time 911 01 plane graphic was animated).Early Show is broadcast from GM building on 59 St. and 5th avenue, NYC."

Correction CBS bought the PVI L-VIS computer for the EARLY SHOW in 1999. The Early Show was moved from 524 W. 57th St. Broadcast Center to GM Building (also where Apple is) on 59th and 5th Ave. from which control room, the PVI plane graphic was generated.

4um Title: How 9-11 Was Done -- Post #586: CBS 9/11 Empire State Building footage-angle coordinates + info on that footage altered by PBS for 2003 documentaries + Smoke and Mirrors videos info

The camera location: General Motors Building, aka FAO Schwartz, E 58th St at Madison Ave... 215 meters tall on ground elevated at 48 feet above sea level Lat 40.763595 Lon -73.972781 (Thanks, YougeneDebs)

General Motors Building (New York)

767 5th Ave, New York City, NY 10022, USA

The General Motors Building is a 50-story, 705-foot (215 m) office tower in Manhattan, New York City, facing Fifth Avenue at 59th Street . The building is one of the few structures in Manhattan that occupies a full city block.

At General Motors' home in Detroit, many of its buildings had been designed by Albert Kahn including the high-rise Cadillac Place, also known as the "General Motors Building".[8] Started in 1964 and finished in 1968, the General Motors Building originally featured, in its street-level lobby, a showroom for the vehicles of General Motors. Currently, the lobby is the home of FAO Schwarz's flagship toy store. The premises of the FAO Schwarz toy store feature a sculpture of a stuffed bear in the plaza and oversized keyboard on the floor played by foot as seen in the film Big. The store won an award for its lighting in 2005.[4] The building was also home to CBS's The Early Show from 1999– 2012.

FAO Schwarz

The FAO Schwarz flagship store on Fifth Avenue in New York City is a popular tourist destination, and has gained iconic status for its floor piano, cameos in major motion pictures, and real-life toy soldiers.[1] The FAO Schwarz brand is exclusively operated by Toys "R" Us Inc.[3] The FAO Schwarz flagship store, located in the General Motors Building at Fifth Avenue and 58th Street in Manhattan, is currently the brand’s only store location.

Edited to add a GM Building excerpt from Wikipedia and for formatting.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-12   15:47:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

4um Title: NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent -- Post #78
+ Edits at Post #93 to correct and activate the broken links.

Transferring a copy of info at Post #78 with activated links:

killtown Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC -- article and comment excerpts

May 31, 2007 (Updated: 09/23/08)

"Of the five 'live' shots of the alleged impacts there is not one reporter with any of those camera crews. It's like the anchors were the reporters. Did the networks just decide to share cameras? Why is there NOT ONE local newscast with a video of their own? And why do we know the identities of ALL of the people not associated with the networks that submitted videos of the alleged impacts and NOT know the identities of ANY of the news crews that captured the most spectacular shots in the history of live news?"

Monday, 24 January 2000 independent.co.uk

Viewers tuning into American broadcaster CBS's recent news coverage of the millennium celebrations in New York witnessed a televisual sleight of hand which enabled CBS to alter the reality of what they saw. Using "virtual imaging" technology, the broadcaster seamlessly adjusted live video images to include an apparently real promotion for itself in Times Square. The move has sparked debate about the ethics of using advances in broadcast technology to alter reality without telling viewers that what they are seeing isn't really there.

"CBS owned a PVI LVIS computer, purchased for the EARLY SHOW in 2000. CBS was the command center for the broadcast. CBS generated the PVI animation.

Do some research before all the links to CBS are pulled down owning a PVI LVIS COMPUTER SYSTEM IN 2000."

"CBS bought PVI LVIS computer in 1999:

i took a class at PVI (Princeton Video Image, ownd by Cablevision), Lawrenceville, NJ, in August 2007. On the 4th day we learned to animate graphics on virtual path created on a PVI 3D wireframe. It was then that I saw how PVI was used to animate the plane graphic on 911. PVI graphics are mapped to specific colors on which they appear on the TV monitor.Graphics is assigned (ie, green of football field, SKY blue of the 911 morning sky for the plane graphic to be annimated on TWIN TOWERS.camera shot). I can’t put this information in your head. You have to understand how PVI graphics animation appear only on the color chosen for the graphic to appear. (ie green on football field, sky blue on 911 am)..

CBS bought a PVI LVIS computer in 1999 for the Early Show (during which time 911 01 plane graphic was animated).Early Show is broadcast from GM building on 59 St. and 5th avenue, NYC."

[My note: the GM building is the location that's been identified as where the Empire State Building footage-angle was generated; which was aired by CBS on 9/11 and was later altered by PBS for usage in the 2003 documentaries referenced in the Smoke and Mirrors topics.]

"CBS network usedt PVI L-VIS computer for the EARLY SHOW in 2000. The PVI virtual insertion was. used on New Year’s Eve 1999 broadcast to insert a CBS logo of NBC logo, CBS PVI made news.

CBS Is Divided Over the Use Of False Images In Broadcasts By BILL CARTER Published: January 13, 2000

[My note: NYT, CNN, and digitalbroadcasting links available at the article site]

A mainstream network president had even warned in 2000 about fake plane crashes using CGI:

[Andrew Heyward, the president of CBS News,] said that he understood the argument against the use of the technology — which is widely employed in sports and some entertainment shows — on news programs. The danger is “that it looks too real and therefore it’s wrong or potentially wrong,” he said. “I certainly agree it’s potentially subject to abuse.”

He noted that advances in computer-generated techniques had made things like missiles hitting Baghdad and airplanes crashing look so real that it was incumbent on networks to underscore that these were not real images.

"Correction CBS bought the PVI L-VIS computer for the EARLY SHOW in 1999. The Early Show was moved from 524 W. 57th St. Broadcast Center to GM Building (also where Apple is) on 59th and 5th Ave. from which control room, the PVI plane graphic was generated. i took a class at PVI, Lawrenceville, NJ to learn to operate the PVI LVIS computer in 2007. On the 4th day, we learned to animate a graphic on a virtual path. That is when I learned that a PVI L-VIS computer generated the plane graphic. Another poster sent me the links to CBS logo story on the millenium broadcast and Andrew Heyward warned of corruption that might follow this technology being aired on TV."

My note: So, I plan to move a link for this post to the Smoke and Mirrors topic for the records there because I think we have now established, with the above info, that the Empire State Building angle discussed in that contentious controversy (and which was traced to coordinates of the GM builiding) was generated from the very same GM building where a PVI L-VIS computer was located; and that is also the same building where the CBS Early Show with Bryant Gumble is broadcast, which aired the alleged news footage of that questionable Empire State Building angle (where the approach of the plane image seemingly appears as if out of nowhere from behind that building or as if out of the blue from an inward point in the sky). Circumstantial evidence at this point, yes, but quite the notable coincidences -- the main one being the PVI L- VIS computer. More on the PVI L-VIS computer here: 911 was a PVI VIRTUAL PLANE GRAPHIC ANIMATION:

The system CBS used was developed by a United States company called Princeton Video Images (PVI). Other players in this field include Symah Vision - part of French defence to media group Lagadere; Israel-based Orad Hi Tech Systems, and SciDex, another Israeli firm with offices in Europe and the US. Each system, while similar, has its differences. None of the companies will publicly discuss how their's works. But the principle is common: each alters the live video image in the split second before it is broadcast.

"There is great potential to use virtual imaging in other ways but it remains a tool whose biggest advantage is for live broadcasting," Madge says. "There are obvious advantages in virtual studios as you don't need a physical set, just a blue screen against which the presenter is shot and a three-D computer model. You can change it over very quickly - there's no need to shift scenery.

CBS's problems arise from the fact that its use of the PVI system went one step further than "enhancing" the look of its presentation: it tampered with the reality of an actual event it was depicting in a news show, raising the spectre of TV news reporters reporting "live" from around the world when they're actually far closer to home. The broadcaster - which has also used virtual imaging to modify the New York cityscape - defended itself by insisting: 'CBS News' internal standards prohibit digital manipulation or other faking of news footage."

However, a CBS spokeswoman admitted that virtual insertion technology is yet to be covered by the broadcaster's guidelines. But Dan Rather, for one, thinks it should be. "At the very least we should have pointed out to viewers we were doing it,'' he told the New York Times. "I did not grasp the possible ethical implications of this and that was wrong on my part.''

CBS is not the only broadcaster to use this technology in news broadcasts. Rival ABC recently included a report on Congress by a reporter wearing an overcoat in front of what to viewers seemed to be the US Capitol. The entire report was taped in a studio.

My note: Links checked and working correctly at the time of this post.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-15   1:10:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

911 was a PVI VIRTUAL PLANE GRAPHIC ANIMATION:

Uh huh. Sure it wasn't Sponge Bob going on tour of NY?

Again, you and your pals are trying to say that all television networks, their employees, including live news crew on the scene, as well as the first responders, survivors, and bystanders were all in on this massive hoax which was perpetrated while at the same time leading to the deaths of 3000 Americans.

Yep, sure they did.

You're even trying to say the victims were fake too, aren't you...

From the victims of the tower collapses, to the passengers and flight crews onboard the doomed airliners, you're saying they never existed, right?

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-15   9:09:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I've already told you before that you are overestimating the numbers of those involved knowingly and underestimating the actions of those who secretively went to War against us but you just keep robotically typing your obscurations. Why does the possibility that 3000 might not have died in plane strike illusions bother you or anyone? I think that should be considered a good thing. Who wouldn't think so? Warmongers, war profiteers, 9/11 Fund pirates... Tell us what you think happened regarding alleged Flt. 77, the passengers and flight crews reportedly onboard, and all who you think were involved with massively hoaxing us at the Pentagon, Partial No Planer/Sponge Bob on Tour manager.

Edited last sentence.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-10-15   13:05:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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