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Title: NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent
Source: Prison Planet Forum
URL Source: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=945.50;wap2
Published: Aug 1, 2008
Author: Morgan Rose
Post Date: 2012-10-06 10:54:21 by FormerLurker
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COINTELPRO, an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program, was a series of covert operations conducted by the FBI starting in the mid 50’s and continuing until 1976 when it was exposed by the investigations The Church Committee. One of the primary methods of COINTELPRO consisted of forging pseudo-movement groups as a means of conducting Psychological Warfare operations to spread disinformation, disrupt, and divide existing movements. These ‘psy-ops’ tended to foment suspicions among the targeted movements and try to dissuade sympathies from people outside the targeted movement.

Today, COINTELPRO has reared its ugly head again, with infiltrations popping up everywhere from Anti-War activism groups to peaceful gun owners and militias. Provocations have become more and more conspicuous to the public as the Seattle World Trade Organization protests and Ontario Security and Prosperity Partnership protests successfully exposed provocateur operations. Of course, something as dangerous to the establishment *body politic* as 9/11 has not been without its alleged incidents of COINTELPRO action. Allegations of government disinformation have been swirling around certain figures in the movement, such as former Bush Administration official Morgan Reynolds, who has recently proposed that “no planes hit the World Trade Center”, has alleged “TV Fakery”, and submitted that the towers were brought down by “Directed Energy Weapons” a.k.a. “Laser Beams”.

While the government has spent innumerable resources trying to contradict eyewitness statements regarding reported explosions in the towers, Morgan Reynolds and his “mockingbirds” expect the 9/11 truth movement to put their energy into further contradicting even more numerous eyewitness statements . See a problem here?

Typical of the above outlined methods, “No Planers” have become a pseudo-movement, adding lunacy, deception, and division to the legitimate questions emanating from 9/11 families, first responders, government officials, intelligence experts, scientists, engineers, architects, academics, entertainment personalities, and so many others.

Perhaps the more visible purveyors of this pseudo-movement are supported by Paula Gloria’s “Concordia Foundation”. The “Concordia Foundation” claims 501 (c) 3, or “nonprofit” status, However, recent investigations conducted by concerned donors have uncovered that her “foundation” does not retain “nonprofit” status with the IRS. In fact, more rigorous inquires have obtained that no records of the “Concordia Foundation” even exist in its home state of New York. Funding of Paula Gloria’s “foundation” originates solely from an information technology firm, Bit By Bit Computer Consultants. “Donations” to the “Concordia Foundation” are actually billed directly to Bit By Bit. The apparent fraud has appropriately prompted multiple complaints with the FTC and IRS.

Bit By Bit, and its subsidiary 3BDigital, admittedly list among their portfolio Bloomberg LLC, Chase Bank, The National Football League, Citigroup, and The National Security Council. 3BDigital boasts to have partnerships with Nokia, Cisco Systems, IBM, Compaq, Microsoft, Goldman Sachs, and Level (3) Communications. Level (3) Communications, a defense contractor doing business, primarily, with US and UK interests, is the developer of the WESCAM system said to be the delivery mechanism for the supposed “TV Fakery”. Of course this is nonsense, but it is fascinating that these harlequins would incorporate their partnerships into their own theories.

The “Concordia Foundation” numbers among its surrogates Nico Haupt,” a man who exhibits *prima facie *schizophrenic behavior. Allegations of COINTELPRO surrounding Haupt have, in the past, seemed to be justified. WeAreChange recently had two unprovoked incidents with Haupt, where he assaulted the groups members, only to be ignored by onlooking NYPD.

Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers “Plane Huggers”, to claiming “Alex Jones works for ABC” and is “covering up for the media”, Haupt’s tactics and behavior exhibit classic COINTELPRO methods. Haupt even advocates “waterboarding Plane Huggers”.

So a “foundation” with intimate ties to international defense contractors, major Wall Street banks, prominent telecommunications firms, and The National Security council is a driving force behind the “No Plane” pseudo-movement?

The information promulgated by Paula Gloria, Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, and others is clearly suspect in light of these new revelations. Whereas, before, all of the speculation regarding “No Plane” theories were simply diffused by logic and common sense, now we see that something much more sinister is at play. The divide and conquer tactics employed by these clowns has warranted past allegations of COINTELPRO. Today, the charade has been fully exposed: the pyschological warfare, the subliminals, the allegations of ‘cover-up’ within the movement, the show on the Howard Stern Channel. Although these revelations should prompt further investigation, it certainly begs the question: does it get any more transparent? Subscribe to *9-11*

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#2. To: FormerLurker (#0)

Thanks for the dogged defense of the positions that you have taken, FL.

Given the effect of ten years of debate on the internet, which has brought the debate out into the open and has now made discussion of these many questions acceptable in polite social conversation, a reaction on the part of the most dangerous parts of our establishment is to be expected.

We have to be extra vigilant these days when we examine evidence and theories as to causes and methods used in the attacks on that day. There is a lot of disinformation out there. COINTELPRO is not dead.

randge  posted on  2012-10-06   11:15:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge (#2) (Edited)

You're welcome randge. And it's quite obvious that COINTELPRO is not dead, it is thriving and kicking in full bloom.

It's to be expected with something as huge as 9/11 that it would be used to divide and conquer the truth movement, while at the same time discrediting those who are the most vocal, such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, etc.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-06   11:24:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#3)

i noticed that the clique of "mainstream" (kosher) truthers bombasted reynolds & fetzer yrs ago. Dr. Fetzer addresses the zionists & even the holhoax, which makes him trustworthy in my book.One may debate matters without necessarily being cointelpro.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-06   20:09:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#4)

Liking a guy because he claims to be "addressing the zionists" or pretends to do so, is like voting for Mitt Romney because he calls himself a conservative and pretends to be one.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-07   15:01:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#8)

he doesnt 'claim' to be discussing the forbidden topic of jews, It's just something i noticed after he was excluded from the kosher 'clique'. It has nothing to do with the no-plane stuff, a topic which i find irrelevent.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-08   4:54:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#14)

The "no-plane" nonsense seems pretty clearly to be disinformation planted to disinform, discredit 911 Truth, and mislead.

I don't pretend to have the final data set but I think it is safe to say that the "Official Conspiracy Theory" involving a "Magic Arab" with his "Charmed Cellphone" in a cave in Tora Bora makes about as much sense as "no planes". In other words both are disinfo.

I do think focusing on the likely Mossad connection is a bit of a Red Herring as well. It is not that I do not think that there were Israelis involved, but that they were not in charge of the Op but just one of the players.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-10-08   14:26:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Original_Intent, Artisan (#17)

The "no-plane" nonsense seems pretty clearly to be disinformation planted to disinform, discredit 911 Truth, and mislead.

You say that after you've assumed there were planes. I don't think there were.

911 Truth?

What's that?

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-11   2:24:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: wudidiz (#56)

as ive said before i dont think its too important if there were planes or not. for example obviously there was no plane in pentagon or PA. Why not agree that the towers were blown up by the govt & go from there. oppose police state, wars, torture, etc.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-11   18:04:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Artisan (#61)

Why not agree that the towers were blown up by the govt & go from there. oppose police state, wars, torture, etc

Why argue about the how?

I believe this is the best way to sum up your words.

We have an idea about the whom... is how they did it so important?

Well.... kinda.... no.... yes...

The answer is yes. The devil of the details is very important.... I think... I think so because this is grade a propaganda. PRIMO MIND MANIPULATION

Amongst other stuff.

It is important to know the how who when where and why... as much as we can.

For truth.

Of course priority wise I am thinking more about me and mine rather than truth.... Love truth and all but Love the lives of my loved ones even more.... and this police state is only getting worse.... You know already... no need to preach to the choir.

titorite  posted on  2012-10-12   0:37:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: titorite (#70)

Yes, priorities are key. If someone wants to delve into the no-plane stuff more power to them. Intellectual freedom is great. As for me, i dont care.its hard enuff 11+ yrs later to even explain the relevence of 911 to people, much less drown in minutia.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-12   2:18:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Artisan (#74)

You don't think whether planes were actually used or not is relevant? I think it's paramount. Consider the implications. Consider what it's done to the airline industry. Minutia? Consider how powerful the psyop is.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-12   2:23:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: wudidiz (#75)

its easy to disprove the govt lies, not so to prove unknowns. Getting folks to be receptive to the fact that satanist ghouls run the world & want to kill us off & set up a NWO,probably sounds wackier to the average chap than no planes.Implications indeed.

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-12   2:34:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Artisan (#76)

It may be pointless to talk to most about such things, but amongst many here anything can be discussed.

Check out how many pug threads there are.

I'd like to see someone look at the video evidence with an open mind in as much depth as some of us have here before they dismiss the idea that there were no planes as freakin disinfo.

Seriously.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-12   2:48:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: wudidiz, Artisan (#77) (Edited)

Check out how many pug threads there are.

Check how many were created by someone other than Turdle.

ONE HUNNERT!

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-10-12   14:13:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Original_Intent (#100)

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-13   16:51:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: wudidiz (#127)

Uh huh. I suppose you thought the structure was supposed to make the plane bounce off like a rubber ball, eh?

It was travelling at 500 mph or close to it, and it had enough forward momentum to penetrate the relatively thin columns which were spaced apart far enough to allow the majority of the plane to pass through without any resistance.

Wake up.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-10-13   17:49:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: FormerLurker, all (#133)

I have to go to work but when I get back I will continue to argue with you about 9/11.

Think of it, FL.

Of all the options in the world available to me (there are a few), I will be arguing on the internet about 9/11. With You, FL.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-10-13   17:54:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: wudidiz (#134)

Think of it,

Lol! Just heard that ole song 'Betcha by golly wowwwww' in a burger joint & sang it to my wife. That's better than bickering about 911 on the net... :-D

Artisan  posted on  2012-10-13   20:07:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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